archie bunker Loc: Texas

Thousands of wind turbines here. Right now, it's cloudy, and not a breath of wind. In your world, we can only hope that the clouds break up, and the wind kicks up before we freeze to death, or all of our food rots in Summer time.

The Critical Critic Loc: Turtle Island

Thanks for confirming that, Archie. I have a few questions, but they’re probably better left unasked.

Airforceone

No question I will respond with respect as long as I am being respected for doing the reseach and gaining my perception of these issues facing this country. We both know that (PERCEPTION IS ONE THING) (BUT IS IT REALITY) and I believe with common sense debates we can obtain reality.

Now as for my feelings towards Trump is because I have known Trump for 35 years. I have seen first hand what that man has done to so many people and the number of people he has screwed and companies he has put out of business with all his phony bankruptcies. How can anybody not look at the facts when you go bankrupt 5 times how many people did not get paid paid for goods and services provided to the Trump organization. That’s why he files for bankruptcy it’s called protection against creditors because he would be bogged down with lawsuits, contractors, employees that he owes money to from potential lawsuits. We are talking about Trump Organization that cannot borrow funds from any US banks and years ago Trump was asked if you can’t borrow money in the US how does your corporation stay in business. Now in his own words (THE RUSSIANS AND SAUDI’s ARE ONLY TO HAPPY TO HELP) This man has been divorced twice for c***ting on his spouse, he has had numerous affairs while being married. He had an affair with a porno star while his wife was at home with a 5 week old infant and used campaign funds as hush money. Trump has been a pathological liar his entire life, he is a s**m artist and he s**mmed his way into the White House.

I have asked this question on many occasions what has Donald Trump done to MAGA. I still did not receive an answer.
He brags about how a generated a great economy (NO HE INHERITED A GROWING ECONOMY) He brags about generating the lowest black unemployment no what policy or legislation has he ever done to generate work for the minorities in this country.
It’s a typical Trump move take credit for everything positive in this country and play the blame game for everything negative. He campaigned on balancing the budget, cutting the deficit in half in two years, generating new trade agreements ( BUT HIS SUPPORTERS BELIEVE A WORLD TRADE WAR IS THE WAY TO ACCOMPMISH TRADE BALANCE) look at the mess he created with the border he promised a wall that Mexico would pay for now it’s a wall that he wants the American tax payer to foot the bill, he went to a government shutdown to a national emergency because congress did not give him the funds, he has been holding this country hostage over a barrier that CBP, Homeland Security has indicated its not needed and those funds would be better untilized in other areas of technological advances to protect the border. National emergency our National Emergency Director’s testified before Congress there is no emergency on the Southern border and Trump made the comment they are wrong and they should all go back to school. I believe Putin and disregarded our entire National Intel community. The lies about his campaign staff not invovled with Russians, 19 of his campaign staff and over 100 meetings with Russians all denied by Trump he did know about these meetings how can that possibly be. I could go on and on about this guy in the White House when he was proven wrong for over 8,000 lies and misinformation. I just wonder what is going to happen to the Republican Party for protecting a guy that will fire you, denigrate you, denigrate your family, denigrate our NATO Allies, if you disagree with him. This man is in his 70’s and he is not going to change.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You can PM me. But if it's about tennis, or soccer, I'll go ahead and explain.

Redneck tennis involves swatting "the ball" back and forth over the net with a shovel.

Soccer involves moving "the ball" around the field by using boots in the backside.

Hope that helped.

Airforceone

Yup typical Archie deflection tell me what does red neck tennis and Soccer have to do with c*****e c****e debate. But it’s typical right wing BS avoid the message at all cost.

Common_Sense_Matters

I agree with ALMOST all of your post, though SOMETIMES trade wars ARE necessary. If there is a trade deficit, the best way to handle such a situation is to sit down with their trade negotiators and try to hammer out a more balanced trade agreement, sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't, when it doesn't, THAT may be the time for a trade war.

That said, I do believe that, in my opinion, he didn't work hard enough towards a more balanced trade with china and others BEFORE he so hastily leaped into a trade war with them and others. Perhaps if he had, the whole trade war may have been averted.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You wouldn't listen to anything I said anyway. So, what point is there in discussing anything with you?
I'm just an ignorant Texan, after all, and you know everything, about everything, about everything.

And, for the record, I don't believe in man made c*****e c****e any more than you believe a human baby is a human.
The facts aren't on your side, but they are on mine.

Answer me this, since you're an expert.
What caused the end of the last ice age?
Was it the internal combustion engine?
Coal fired power plants?
Flatulence from cattle?

What caused it?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Green Peace activists amongs the Mammoths... But we Canuckistanians took care of them.... Gotta love that ice

Airforceone

Well maybe that is an area where solar panels will not be installed. Don’t forget these Solar and wind power have storage capacity so stop acting like a fool and study how these systems work.

So let’s get you educated not sure that can happen because gun tooting ignorant Texans are very difficult when they get there education from a White House freak who also doen’t Know how solar and wind power work. Case in point that i***t stood at CPAC and made a stupid statement (HEY HONEY IS THE WIND BLOWING TODAY I WANT TO WATCH TV) CPAC showed the same ignorance to facts as you do.

Solar panels use energy from daylight as opposed to sunlight to produce electricity so these panels do not need direct sunlight. So if it’s cloudy they still work. Is that simple enough for you to understand.

So let’s get a little technical because Texas ignorance as science deniers is a big problem in this country. It’s called photons which operate in daylight which is converted by solar panels cells to produce electricity. Actually heat from the sun has no effect on the production of electricity it’s natural light. I am trying not to complicate how the whole process works
Because your a red neck r****t that denies science.

Wind farms are located in areas where studies have been done where winds of 7 MPH are constant. Preferably they want 12 MPH and a wind turbine will operate at 100% capacity.

Most wind farms are located at higher elevation where winds are constantly blowing. Deserts are another area where winds blow constantly, offshore wind farm are great because the winds are constant.

I could get into the science of these areas but red neck r****t Texans are science deniers. Not saying your ignorant or r****t or a denier but you sure are ignorant to facts.

Now since your sarcastic comment that the wind was not blowing and it was cloudy you sound just as ignorant to facts as Trump. Now I lived on Top of a mountain at a sky resort a few years back and there were wind mills on top of the mountain I was there for 5 years and 24/7 for 5 years those windmills never stopped turning. Well they did when a maintainance guy had to service them.

So my TV time was never interrupted. Poor Donald

So I hope this helps Archie and I do like you because I will take the time to educate you as you spend your time avoiding the topics and teach me proper English which I thank you for.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Seriously....

Re-write: Civil response to Archie..


Well maybe that is an area where solar panels will not be installed. Don’t forget these Solar and wind power have storage capacity so stop acting like a fool and study how these systems work.

Solar panels use energy from daylight as opposed to sunlight to produce electricity so these panels do not need direct sunlight. So if it’s cloudy they still work.
It’s called photons which operate in daylight which is converted by solar panels cells to produce electricity. Actually heat from the sun has no effect on the production of electricity it’s natural light.

Wind farms are located in areas where studies have been done where winds of 7 MPH are constant. Preferably they want 12 MPH and a wind turbine will operate at 100% capacity.

Most wind farms are located at higher elevation where winds are constantly blowing. Deserts are another area where winds blow constantly, offshore wind farm are great because the winds are constant.

Now I lived on Top of a mountain at a sky resort a few years back and there were wind mills on top of the mountain I was there for 5 years and 24/7 for 5 years those windmills never stopped turning. Well they did when a maintainance guy had to service them.

So I hope this helps Archie and I do like you.



It is that simple...

EconomistDon

OMG airforce, you just elaborated on your tremendous ignorance of the Green New Deal. It is so full of factual inaccuracies, I don't know where to begin.

For starters, solar energy is NOT about using the suns rays to heat boiling water. It is about silicon cells arranged on panel that convert the sun's rays into direct electrical current. That direct current is converted into alternating current and fed into the public electric grid. When I talked earlier about a cost-benefit analysis, I was talking about the cost of purchasing and installing the solar array. I watched the price of panels decline over a period of about ten years before I jumped in. If I had done it sooner, the cost of the system would have been too high; burning f****l f**ls would still have been cheaper. I and everyone must look at the bottom line in cost of electrifying their homes. As long as f****l f**ls remain a cheap alternative, people will not convert. They must be prudent with their family finances.

So airforce, have YOU converted to solar? Or are you still polluting the air with f****l f**ls? I'm guessing it is the latter; you are just being a loud mouth here on OPP.

Furthermore, the Green New Deal is about much more than solar and wind energy. Occasional Cortez wants to replace all buildings over ten years old, so that the new buildings can be energy efficient. Can you imagine the cost of replacing all buildings over ten years old? THAT is a total breakdown in cost-benefit analysis. She wants to eliminate all gasoline and diesel driven cars and trucks with electric cars and trucks. Apparently she doesn't realize that most electricity is generated by burning f****l f**ls; so where is the gain? She wants to eliminate airplanes and taxis -- really?

And then there are the non-energy issues, like eliminating private health insurance and covering everyone with Medicare for all. Apparently she doesn't realize that most people are covered by private insurance that is paid for by their employer. Can you imagine the enormous price tag the government would have to pick up to assume the cost that is currently paid by employers? She want to give a government job to everyone who doesn't have a job. And she wants to just give money to anyone who doesn't feel like working.

EconomistDon

THAT statement fully displays your ignorance about federal incentives on solar energy. It has NOTHING to do with tax rates. It is a tax REBATE. If I install a solar array costing $50,000, I can deduct 30 percent of that amount off my income tax bill. Thirty percent of $50,000 is $15,000, the amount of tax that I do not need to pay on my next tax return. GET IT????? The federal government essentially GAVE me $15,000 for installing a solar array. That is huge!!!!! When you say that Trump is eliminating subsidies for solar power, you are showing your profound ignorance. And when you confuse the tax rebate with Trump's tax cuts, you are compounding your display of ignorance.

Common_Sense_Matters

Yes, you are correct, most modern solar panels do work in the way you mentioned though there are others that were designed to heat water for household usage and I do recall either hearing or seeing of a setup where reflective panels were used to reflect the heat of the sun onto a centralized unit and I think it was to boil water, possibly in the way AF1 suggested, my memory is poor so recalling the specifics is fairly rough.

As for the GND and the claim that air travel would be eliminated entirely, There are other forms of fuel for internal combustion engines NOT based on f****l f**ls, I am fairly certain air travel elimination was never part of the GND, but rather converting aircraft to bio fuels or perhaps hydrogen. There are entire fleets of vehicles that run entirely on methanol and have since at least as far back as the 1990's. There ARE alternatives to f****l f**ls that may be used to maintain the ability to continue providing for air travel with or without f****l f**ls. as for completely eliminating CO emissions, the only internal combustion fuel that I know of that has a zero CO emission level is hydrogen. Any fuel based on any carbon based substance will produce CO as far as I know.

As for health care in the GND, yes, many employers do offer healthcare plans where they pay a portion of the premiums, that can be carried over in any form of universal healthcare plan we end up with, just like withholding taxes a new withholding for the healthcare costs. The employer still pays a portion, the other portion comes from the employee. If done right, the premiums could be comparable to what they are currently paying or even possibly less as insurance companies require a profit, the government would not require a profit margin.

As for the claim that she wants to "pay people for doing nothing at all" I would like to hear from the source whether she really means that she wants something like that actually included in such a package and if so, I would hope that those negotiating what actually stays in the bill would eliminate such an aspect. We all know that bills rarely make it through congress unaltered.

Also, many of those ambitions included in the GND are just that, ambitions, the GND is non-binding and if we fail to make it all happen within the given time frame, there is no "self destruct" method in the GND that will wipe us from the planet if we fail, other than perhaps c*****e c****e doom. It is just merely an ambitious set of goals for us to do our best to achieve.

All in all, I am for our lawmakers examining such a thing closer and see what we may be interested in attempting.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Well pal, I think I might know a little more than you think. My son works on wind turbines, and him, and I talk about it often.

It sure seems to me that you have an overwhelming desire to join me in a game of tennis. As the ball, of course.