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Mar 4, 2019 00:32:06   #
Airforceone
 
Okay let’s agree to disagree that C*****e c****e is a h**x. Republicans are science deniers and that’s not going to change.

So let’s actually debate renewables on its own and leave c*****e c****e out of the subject and take a look at renewables from a health issue and what it would do for our economy.

(SO NO C*****E C****E ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC G***N E****Y AGENDA.

Solar and wind power are creating jobs at a rate 12 times faster than that of the rest of the US economy and Trump takes the credit for these jobs. Trump constantly quotes that renewable energy is a bad investment.

The renewable energy sector has seen rapid rapid growth over recent years, driven by reduction in manufacturing and installation costs. Jobs are growing at a rate of 20% per year. There are 4.5 million jobs in renewables which is up from 3.4 million in 2011. Again Trump leads you to believe it’s a bad investment.

Now compared to f****l f**l technologies which are typically mechanized and capital intensive, the renewable energy industry is more labor intensive. More jobs are created for each unit of electricity generated from renewable sources than from f****l f**ls.

(IMPROVES PUBLIC HEALTH)
Air and water pollution emitted by coal, natural gas, fuel, is linked with breathing problems, neurological damage, heart attacks, cancer and a host of other serious problems. Estimated cost to the public health $74.6 billion a year. Not even the republicans can deny this.

(INEXHAUSTIBLE ENERGY)
We will not run out of strong winds, sunny skies and fast moving water. Wow what a great progressive idea free fuel. I wonder who thought of that.

(STABLE ENERGY PRICES OMG THE FUEL IS FREE)
Renewable energy is providing affordable electricity across the country right now and can help stabilize energy prices.

Although renewable facilities require an up front investment to build they operate at a low cost because Wow the fuel is free.

Renewable energy technology cost have declined steadily. Example the average cost to install solar dropped more than 70% between 2010 and 2017, wind dropped 66%. Cost are expected to drop even further.

F****l f**l prices vary dramatically and are prone to substantial price swings. Not even republicans can deny that. No price swings with renewables the fuel is free. Wow free fuel clean air and water. Now that’s a bad progressive idea.

The US now has 500 wind power manufactor facilities that support 50,000 jobs just in manufacturing and over 600,000 jobs total. Solar has a total of 347,000 jobs now and that has doubled in number since 2012 and now have over 10,000 companies that generate $17 billion to our economy. That’s more than the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy.
Trump is trying to eliminate subsidies for g***n e****y but the oil subsidies will stay in place. All to prevent the American people from free fuel to generate power clean air and water and stop polluting our oceans.

As the industry continues its rapid growth the demand will accelerate for massive job creation. Just get Trump and his ignorant base the hell out of the way.

Trump likes to lie to keep his ignorant base in line with the amount of land required so I did a little research. According to a 2008 analysis by the Renewable Energy laboratory to power the US with solar is about 0.6% of the US land mass.

China now makes about 60% of the worlds solar cells, and 71% of the solar panels. Solar and Wind has been slowed in the US because of the republicans love of f****l f**ls and China has taken advantage and now lead the world on renewables because of US politics called Republican stupidity while progressives is a bad word. Wow progressives trying to utilize free fuel to generate electricity OMG what a bad idea.

The Jobs analysis provided by AltEnergy stocks which found 5.3 jobs per $1 million for f****l f**l investments versus renewables 16.7 jobs per $1 million. If republicans would drop there love for f****l f**l and were all in on utilizing free fuel to generate electricity it would create an economic boom in this country like non other in our history.

Solar workforce in 2017 increased by 25% wind increased by 32% and Trump takes the credit for job creation. Then he lies about coal job creation. How many jobs created in the coal industry versus renewables.

So no more c*****e c****e denial we will never get a bunch of ignorant people to understand c*****e c****e that read articles that are written by the Koch Brothers super PACs. Because republicans don’t understand the difference between c*****e c****e and our daily weather changes.

Just think about the health risk from breathing in this garbage and the water we drink, polluting our oceans, and forget about c*****e c****e.

It’s estimated that by 2050 most of the world will be powered by renewables and Trump and his ignorant supporters will still be trying to dig for coal.

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Mar 4, 2019 00:39:42   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Airforceone wrote:
Okay let’s agree to disagree that C*****e c****e is a h**x. Republicans are science deniers and that’s not going to change.

So let’s actually debate renewables on its own and leave c*****e c****e out of the subject and take a look at renewables from a health issue and what it would do for our economy.

(SO NO C*****E C****E ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC G***N E****Y AGENDA.

Solar and wind power are creating jobs at a rate 12 times faster than that of the rest of the US economy and Trump takes the credit for these jobs. Trump constantly quotes that renewable energy is a bad investment.

The renewable energy sector has seen rapid rapid growth over recent years, driven by reduction in manufacturing and installation costs. Jobs are growing at a rate of 20% per year. There are 4.5 million jobs in renewables which is up from 3.4 million in 2011. Again Trump leads you to believe it’s a bad investment.

Now compared to f****l f**l technologies which are typically mechanized and capital intensive, the renewable energy industry is more labor intensive. More jobs are created for each unit of electricity generated from renewable sources than from f****l f**ls.

(IMPROVES PUBLIC HEALTH)
Air and water pollution emitted by coal, natural gas, fuel, is linked with breathing problems, neurological damage, heart attacks, cancer and a host of other serious problems. Estimated cost to the public health $74.6 billion a year. Not even the republicans can deny this.

(INEXHAUSTIBLE ENERGY)
We will not run out of strong winds, sunny skies and fast moving water. Wow what a great progressive idea free fuel. I wonder who thought of that.

(STABLE ENERGY PRICES OMG THE FUEL IS FREE)
Renewable energy is providing affordable electricity across the country right now and can help stabilize energy prices.

Although renewable facilities require an up front investment to build they operate at a low cost because Wow the fuel is free.

Renewable energy technology cost have declined steadily. Example the average cost to install solar dropped more than 70% between 2010 and 2017, wind dropped 66%. Cost are expected to drop even further.

F****l f**l prices vary dramatically and are prone to substantial price swings. Not even republicans can deny that. No price swings with renewables the fuel is free. Wow free fuel clean air and water. Now that’s a bad progressive idea.

The US now has 500 wind power manufactor facilities that support 50,000 jobs just in manufacturing and over 600,000 jobs total. Solar has a total of 347,000 jobs now and that has doubled in number since 2012 and now have over 10,000 companies that generate $17 billion to our economy. That’s more than the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy.
Trump is trying to eliminate subsidies for g***n e****y but the oil subsidies will stay in place. All to prevent the American people from free fuel to generate power clean air and water and stop polluting our oceans.

As the industry continues its rapid growth the demand will accelerate for massive job creation. Just get Trump and his ignorant base the hell out of the way.

Trump likes to lie to keep his ignorant base in line with the amount of land required so I did a little research. According to a 2008 analysis by the Renewable Energy laboratory to power the US with solar is about 0.6% of the US land mass.

China now makes about 60% of the worlds solar cells, and 71% of the solar panels. Solar and Wind has been slowed in the US because of the republicans love of f****l f**ls and China has taken advantage and now lead the world on renewables because of US politics called Republican stupidity while progressives is a bad word. Wow progressives trying to utilize free fuel to generate electricity OMG what a bad idea.

The Jobs analysis provided by AltEnergy stocks which found 5.3 jobs per $1 million for f****l f**l investments versus renewables 16.7 jobs per $1 million. If republicans would drop there love for f****l f**l and were all in on utilizing free fuel to generate electricity it would create an economic boom in this country like non other in our history.

Solar workforce in 2017 increased by 25% wind increased by 32% and Trump takes the credit for job creation. Then he lies about coal job creation. How many jobs created in the coal industry versus renewables.

So no more c*****e c****e denial we will never get a bunch of ignorant people to understand c*****e c****e that read articles that are written by the Koch Brothers super PACs. Because republicans don’t understand the difference between c*****e c****e and our daily weather changes.

Just think about the health risk from breathing in this garbage and the water we drink, polluting our oceans, and forget about c*****e c****e.

It’s estimated that by 2050 most of the world will be powered by renewables and Trump and his ignorant supporters will still be trying to dig for coal.
Okay let’s agree to disagree that C*****e c****e i... (show quote)


Without all of the insults this could have been an excellent post...

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Mar 4, 2019 00:50:14   #
EconomistDon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Okay let’s agree to disagree that C*****e c****e is a h**x. Republicans are science deniers and that’s not going to change.

So let’s actually debate renewables on its own and leave c*****e c****e out of the subject and take a look at renewables from a health issue and what it would do for our economy.

(SO NO C*****E C****E ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEMOCRATIC G***N E****Y AGENDA.

Solar and wind power are creating jobs at a rate 12 times faster than that of the rest of the US economy and Trump takes the credit for these jobs. Trump constantly quotes that renewable energy is a bad investment.

The renewable energy sector has seen rapid rapid growth over recent years, driven by reduction in manufacturing and installation costs. Jobs are growing at a rate of 20% per year. There are 4.5 million jobs in renewables which is up from 3.4 million in 2011. Again Trump leads you to believe it’s a bad investment.

Now compared to f****l f**l technologies which are typically mechanized and capital intensive, the renewable energy industry is more labor intensive. More jobs are created for each unit of electricity generated from renewable sources than from f****l f**ls.

(IMPROVES PUBLIC HEALTH)
Air and water pollution emitted by coal, natural gas, fuel, is linked with breathing problems, neurological damage, heart attacks, cancer and a host of other serious problems. Estimated cost to the public health $74.6 billion a year. Not even the republicans can deny this.

(INEXHAUSTIBLE ENERGY)
We will not run out of strong winds, sunny skies and fast moving water. Wow what a great progressive idea free fuel. I wonder who thought of that.

(STABLE ENERGY PRICES OMG THE FUEL IS FREE)
Renewable energy is providing affordable electricity across the country right now and can help stabilize energy prices.

Although renewable facilities require an up front investment to build they operate at a low cost because Wow the fuel is free.

Renewable energy technology cost have declined steadily. Example the average cost to install solar dropped more than 70% between 2010 and 2017, wind dropped 66%. Cost are expected to drop even further.

F****l f**l prices vary dramatically and are prone to substantial price swings. Not even republicans can deny that. No price swings with renewables the fuel is free. Wow free fuel clean air and water. Now that’s a bad progressive idea.

The US now has 500 wind power manufactor facilities that support 50,000 jobs just in manufacturing and over 600,000 jobs total. Solar has a total of 347,000 jobs now and that has doubled in number since 2012 and now have over 10,000 companies that generate $17 billion to our economy. That’s more than the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy.
Trump is trying to eliminate subsidies for g***n e****y but the oil subsidies will stay in place. All to prevent the American people from free fuel to generate power clean air and water and stop polluting our oceans.

As the industry continues its rapid growth the demand will accelerate for massive job creation. Just get Trump and his ignorant base the hell out of the way.

Trump likes to lie to keep his ignorant base in line with the amount of land required so I did a little research. According to a 2008 analysis by the Renewable Energy laboratory to power the US with solar is about 0.6% of the US land mass.

China now makes about 60% of the worlds solar cells, and 71% of the solar panels. Solar and Wind has been slowed in the US because of the republicans love of f****l f**ls and China has taken advantage and now lead the world on renewables because of US politics called Republican stupidity while progressives is a bad word. Wow progressives trying to utilize free fuel to generate electricity OMG what a bad idea.

The Jobs analysis provided by AltEnergy stocks which found 5.3 jobs per $1 million for f****l f**l investments versus renewables 16.7 jobs per $1 million. If republicans would drop there love for f****l f**l and were all in on utilizing free fuel to generate electricity it would create an economic boom in this country like non other in our history.

Solar workforce in 2017 increased by 25% wind increased by 32% and Trump takes the credit for job creation. Then he lies about coal job creation. How many jobs created in the coal industry versus renewables.

So no more c*****e c****e denial we will never get a bunch of ignorant people to understand c*****e c****e that read articles that are written by the Koch Brothers super PACs. Because republicans don’t understand the difference between c*****e c****e and our daily weather changes.

Just think about the health risk from breathing in this garbage and the water we drink, polluting our oceans, and forget about c*****e c****e.

It’s estimated that by 2050 most of the world will be powered by renewables and Trump and his ignorant supporters will still be trying to dig for coal.
Okay let’s agree to disagree that C*****e c****e i... (show quote)


Why are YOU being ignorant? NOBODY denies the benefits of solar and wind energy. I personally installed a 15,000 watt ground based solar array on my property. I live free -- free water pumped out of the ground by free solar electricity, free on-lot septic, free ground water (geothermal) heat for my house, and free electricity to power all my lights and electronic gadgets. I am way ahead of the curve, but I am not so stupid to think that everyone else can do what I have done. The world will get there eventually, but it cannot be forced. Economics and the laws of supply and demand will make it possible eventually. Stop being a bunch of *ssholes, and let it happen as cost-benefits/supply and demand allow it to happen.

BTW, nobody DENIES c*****e c****e. It has been happening since forever. What we deny is anthropogenic warming.

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Mar 4, 2019 00:51:16   #
Airforceone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Without all of the insults this could have been an excellent post...


What insults are you taking about. I thought that was suppose to be the way it’s done Trump talks like that continuously to get his point across to his ignorant base insult on top of insult nick names. I am sorry but I am just using Trump language.

Hope I didn’t offend you

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Mar 4, 2019 00:53:09   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Without all of the insults this could have been an excellent post...


Yeah, because we all know those on the right wouldn't do such a thing as insult others, right?

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Mar 4, 2019 00:58:24   #
Airforceone
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Why are YOU being ignorant? NOBODY denies the benefits of solar and wind energy. I personally installed a 15,000 watt ground based solar array on my property. I live free -- free water pumped out of the ground by free solar electricity, free on-lot septic, free ground water (geothermal) heat for my house, and free electricity to power all my lights and electronic gadgets. I am way ahead of the curve, but I am not so stupid to think that everyone else can do what I have done. The world will get there eventually, but it cannot be forced. Economics and the laws of supply and demand will make it possible eventually. Stop being a bunch of *ssholes, and let it happen as cost-benefits/supply and demand allow it to happen.
Why are YOU being ignorant? NOBODY denies the ben... (show quote)


Have you ever read some of the post on OPP there attacking the Democratic progressive g***n e****y agenda all the time. Trump has said on numerous occasions it’s a waste of money. I was not being an asshole just pointing out the facts as they get ignored by the right wing.
Trump is keeping oil subsidies and cutting g***n e****y subsidies and he uses C*****e c****e as the reason.

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Mar 4, 2019 00:58:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yeah, because we all know those on the right wouldn't do such a thing as insult others, right?


Hi CSM...
I have noticed that tbis is a common complaint of yours this past week...

Both sides have supporters who are less than civil... Should we accept this behavior?

I consider myself a member of the right... And try my best to remain civil to other members...

This topic is excellent.. But the insults encourage members to reply in kind...To what purpose?

I hope that all of us can try for more civility and brotherhood...

And don't let the ungentlemanly members of the right get you down

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Mar 4, 2019 00:59:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Airforceone wrote:
What insults are you taking about. I thought that was suppose to be the way it’s done Trump talks like that continuously to get his point across to his ignorant base insult on top of insult nick names. I am sorry but I am just using Trump language.

Hope I didn’t offend you


Becoming what you h**e?

You can do better... I went back and read some of your posts from when you joined the OPP... They were far superior to what you post now...

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Mar 4, 2019 01:03:45   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hi CSM...
I have noticed that tbis is a common complaint of yours this past week...

Both sides have supporters who are less than civil... Should we accept this behavior?

I consider myself a member of the right... And try my best to remain civil to other members...

This topic is excellent.. But the insults encourage members to reply in kind...To what purpose?

I hope that all of us can try for more civility and brotherhood...

And don't let the ungentlemanly members of the right get you down
Hi CSM... br I have noticed that tbis is a common ... (show quote)


With all the unwarranted h**e, it is hard to not become cynical and perhaps somewhat spiteful yourself. While you have the luxury of rarely being the target of such h**e, others aren't so lucky.

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Mar 4, 2019 01:12:56   #
EconomistDon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Have you ever read some of the post on OPP there attacking the Democratic progressive g***n e****y agenda all the time. Trump has said on numerous occasions it’s a waste of money. I was not being an asshole just pointing out the facts as they get ignored by the right wing.
Trump is keeping oil subsidies and cutting g***n e****y subsidies and he uses C*****e c****e as the reason.


The Green New Deal IS an enormous fiasco. It would drive the nation to economic ruin. THAT was part of my post about not forcing change to g***n e****y. The change must be cost effective. That is the fact that is being ignored by the left wing. It will happen eventually as cost-benefit relations change to accommodate it. Forcing it would cause far more harm than good. Subsidies are there for new g***n e****y. Anyone who claims that Trump is cutting them is simply ignorant and h**eful. I personally got 30 percent back from the federal government on the installation of my solar array. That 30 percent tax break is there for anyone. It is huge. It's time that Democrats learn the facts and cut the bull.

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Mar 4, 2019 01:14:37   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
With all the unwarranted h**e, it is hard to not become cynical and perhaps somewhat spiteful yourself. While you have the luxury of rarely being the target of such h**e, others aren't so lucky.


Believe me... I get targeted as well...
My stance on several issues doesn't match the general guidelines of many on the right...

You have so far been an excellent poster... And fun at times.. Perhaps consider taking a brwak (like I did) and coming back refreshed...

I promise not to send any h**e your way

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Mar 4, 2019 01:36:55   #
Airforceone
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yeah, because we all know those on the right wouldn't do such a thing as insult others, right?


That’s all they do then they don’t like it when you point out how GD stupid they are. Can you imagine being against free fuel and massive job creation because it’s a progressive agenda.

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Mar 4, 2019 01:44:03   #
Airforceone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hi CSM...
I have noticed that tbis is a common complaint of yours this past week...

Both sides have supporters who are less than civil... Should we accept this behavior?

I consider myself a member of the right... And try my best to remain civil to other members...

This topic is excellent.. But the insults encourage members to reply in kind...To what purpose?

I hope that all of us can try for more civility and brotherhood...

And don't let the ungentlemanly members of the right get you down
Hi CSM... br I have noticed that tbis is a common ... (show quote)


I would love to be civil but when you have a president that everytime he opens his mouth it’s an attack and you except it. Calling people rats, morons, stupid and crooked so being civil starts at the top.

Have you ever read the right wing attacks on OPP the r****t comments it’s like dealing with children so that’s the way you have to treat them .

I would enjoy a civil debate on OPP buts it’s impossble.

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Mar 4, 2019 01:46:57   #
Airforceone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Becoming what you h**e?

You can do better... I went back and read some of your posts from when you joined the OPP... They were far superior to what you post now...


I agree but over the years the insults just kept coming. So when you deal with the right wing on OPP you have to get down in the dirt with them. It’s all they understand.
I have had insults to my family even been threaten.

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Mar 4, 2019 01:49:12   #
Airforceone
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Believe me... I get targeted as well...
My stance on several issues doesn't match the general guidelines of many on the right...

You have so far been an excellent poster... And fun at times.. Perhaps consider taking a brwak (like I did) and coming back refreshed...

I promise not to send any h**e your way


Your a true gentleman and you have earned my respect also.

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