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Mar 3, 2019 20:42:54   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Nickolai wrote:
The community reinvestment act was not responsible for the 2008 financial crises that is the official propaganda of such outfits as the. American Enterprise Institute. Those mortgages fell with in the regulatory environment. The Financial Services Modernization act that repealed Glass Stegall and the Commodity Futures Trading modernization act that barred government oversite of derivatives trading was written by Sen Phill Gramm (T) from 1995 to 2000 he served as Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. After the two bills were passed he retired to a lucrative position with UBS as vice president of the investment bank division. Robert Rubin former of Goldman Sachs became Treasury Secretary for the Clinton Administration and was the prime instigator in persuading Bill Clinton into signing Phil Grams bills into la. Larry Summers was also influential . After they were passed Rubin retired and went to work for Citi Group the investment bank for which those two bills were written on order to make legal City Banks acquisition of Travelers , Solomon Brothers brokerage, and Smith Barney brokerage creating the first to big to jai investment bank. All of which had been in violation of Glass Stegall. But no body was regulating-- there hadn't been any regulating going on since Reagan became president. The Democratic minority had wanted Clinton to veto those bills but he ignored his party. He wanted to pull his party to the right more business friendly and hired Dick Morris to help him and show him how to do it.

Luis McFadden is entitled to his opinion but I prefer to stick to history
The community reinvestment act was not responsible... (show quote)


Nickolai, you still haven't read Louis McFadden. Shame on you. your post above is ridiculous, rationalization for President Clinton's signing into law the Commodity Futures Trading Modernization Act. He had could have vetoed the Act.

Community Reinvestment Act of Jimmy Carter's had no provision to impede the Golden Triangle, FARC and al Qaeda drug cartels from money laundering dope through the ghetto housing markets of New York, Philadelphia, Oklahoma city and Los Angeles.

Here's a good book on the 2008 housing market collapse by Baby Bush's Special Inspector General Troubled Asset Relief Program SIGTARP chief, Neil Barofsky. Barofsky was a former prosecuting Attorney in the Southern District of New York, a gun toting cowboy who captured Columbian drug lords and had them extradited to NYC for money laundering dope through their housing market:

Bailout: An Inside Account of How Washington Abandoned Main Street While Rescuing Wall Street
https://www.amazon.com/Bailout-Account-Washington-Abandoned-Rescuing/dp/1451684932/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Barofsky met the greatest opposition to bailing out Main Street while serving under President Obama for the next two years, 2009-2011, and resigned in disgust. Barofsky briefly mentioned that the real culprit that was going unchecked was not the US Treasury and Wall Street Banks, but the Federal Housing Authority Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank that bailed out the FHA Bank. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, Obama's open borders welcomed in every drug pusher on earth to continue money laundering through the FHA Bank!

I'd like to see Neil Barofsky become the next Director of the FBI.

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Mar 3, 2019 22:05:31   #
Nickolai
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Nickolai, you still haven't read Louis McFadden. Shame on you. your post above is ridiculous, rationalization for President Clinton's signing into law the Commodity Futures Trading Modernization Act. He had could have vetoed the Act.

Community Reinvestment Act of Jimmy Carter's had no provision to impede the Golden Triangle, FARC and al Qaeda drug cartels from money laundering dope through the ghetto housing markets of New York, Philadelphia, Oklahoma city and Los Angeles.

Here's a good book on the 2008 housing market collapse by Baby Bush's Special Inspector General Troubled Asset Relief Program SIGTARP chief, Neil Barofsky. Barofsky was a former prosecuting Attorney in the Southern District of New York, a gun toting cowboy who captured Columbian drug lords and had them extradited to NYC for money laundering dope through their housing market:

Bailout: An Inside Account of How Washington Abandoned Main Street While Rescuing Wall Street
https://www.amazon.com/Bailout-Account-Washington-Abandoned-Rescuing/dp/1451684932/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=

Barofsky met the greatest opposition to bailing out Main Street while serving under President Obama for the next two years, 2009-2011, and resigned in disgust. Barofsky briefly mentioned that the real culprit that was going unchecked was not the US Treasury and Wall Street Banks, but the Federal Housing Authority Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank that bailed out the FHA Bank. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, Obama's open borders welcomed in every drug pusher on earth to continue money laundering through the FHA Bank!

I'd like to see Neil Barofsky become the next Director of the FBI.
Nickolai, you still haven't read Louis McFadden. S... (show quote)






Yes Clinton could have vetoed the modernization act and the Democrats wanted him to but he chose not to he was carrying out Ronald Reagans Reaganomics program, My rationalization is spot on. The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was co-founded in 1985 by Will Marshall, who served as its first Policy Director and who is the founder and President of DLC's think tank, the Progressive Policy Institute. DLC counts among its past chairs former President Bill Clinton, Congressman Richard Gephardt, and Senator Joseph I. Lieberman. "The DLC characterizes itself as the 'founding organization of the New Democratic movement,' the goal of which is to 'modernize the progressive tradition in American politics.' The DLC further highlights its commitment to a 'Third Way' agenda that includes some apparently conservative as well as leftwing guiding principles.

Since 1995 Lieberman has chaired the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), the centrist think tank that eschews liberal dogma and promotes market-oriented approaches to policy. Like many similar groups, the DLC (of which Gore is a founding member) has never disclosed its funding sources. But last week, in response to requests from NEWSWEEK, it turned over a list of top donors. If Gore still hopes to score populist points by bashing Big Oil and pharmaceutical companies that oppose his plan to add a prescription-drug entitlement to Medicare, he may have some explaining to do. Among the DLC's biggest benefactors last year (contributions of between $50,000 and $100,000) were ARCO, Chevron and the drug giant Merck. Other big underwriters include Du Pont, Microsoft and Philip Morris (which has kicked in $500,000 since Lieberman became DLC chairman). There is no evidence that the DLC has trimmed policies to accommodate its patrons, but some contributors say the money has helped ensure an open door to Lieberman. "We've been able to have a dialogue with the senator and his staff," said Jay Rosser, spokesman for another DLC benefactor, Koch Industries, an oil-pipeline firm that is also a big GOP donor.




https://www.amazon.com/L**ting-America-Destroyed-Pensions-Prosperity/dp/1603582053/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+l**ting+of+america&qid=1551668422&s=books&sr=1-1

Here is a book by Less Leopold that tells the story of the l**ting of America Les co-founded and currently directs The Labor Institute, a non-profit organization that designs research and educational programs on occupational safety and health, the environment and economics for unions, workers centers and community organizations. In addition to "Runaway Ine******y." he is the author of "How to Make a Million Dollars an Hour: Why Financial Elites get away with siphoning off America's Wealth", "The L**ting of America: How Wall Street's Game of Fantasy Finance destroyed our Jobs, Pensions and Prosperity, and What We Can Do About It,", and "The Man Who H**ed Work and Loved Labor: The Life and Times of Tony Mazzocchi,"
amazon.com

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Mar 4, 2019 00:19:27   #
EconomistDon
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
There is enough evidence against tRump that he should be hung up by his thumbs - - I can understand the elected lackeys who want to keep their jobs not wanting to cross such a powerful and vindictive oligarch, but I don't get why anyone else would admit to supporting him...


Please, kHH1, elaborate on the "evidence". You can't because there is none. The only evidence turned up by Mueller is evidence against Hillary and the DNC who colluded with Russians to fabricate a h**eful dossier that was used to justify wiretapping Trump's campaign staff. That is not evidence against Trump; it is evidence against Hillary and the DNC.

Please, kHH1, elaborate on the "evidence".

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Mar 4, 2019 02:09:40   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Nickolai wrote:
Yes Clinton could have vetoed the modernization act and the Democrats wanted him to but he chose not to he was carrying out Ronald Reagans Reaganomics program, My rationalization is spot on. The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) was co-founded in 1985 by Will Marshall, who served as its first Policy Director and who is the founder and President of DLC's think tank, the Progressive Policy Institute. DLC counts among its past chairs former President Bill Clinton, Congressman Richard Gephardt, and Senator Joseph I. Lieberman. "The DLC characterizes itself as the 'founding organization of the New Democratic movement,' the goal of which is to 'modernize the progressive tradition in American politics.' The DLC further highlights its commitment to a 'Third Way' agenda that includes some apparently conservative as well as leftwing guiding principles.

Since 1995 Lieberman has chaired the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC), the centrist think tank that eschews liberal dogma and promotes market-oriented approaches to policy. Like many similar groups, the DLC (of which Gore is a founding member) has never disclosed its funding sources. But last week, in response to requests from NEWSWEEK, it turned over a list of top donors. If Gore still hopes to score populist points by bashing Big Oil and pharmaceutical companies that oppose his plan to add a prescription-drug entitlement to Medicare, he may have some explaining to do. Among the DLC's biggest benefactors last year (contributions of between $50,000 and $100,000) were ARCO, Chevron and the drug giant Merck. Other big underwriters include Du Pont, Microsoft and Philip Morris (which has kicked in $500,000 since Lieberman became DLC chairman). There is no evidence that the DLC has trimmed policies to accommodate its patrons, but some contributors say the money has helped ensure an open door to Lieberman. "We've been able to have a dialogue with the senator and his staff," said Jay Rosser, spokesman for another DLC benefactor, Koch Industries, an oil-pipeline firm that is also a big GOP donor.

https://www.amazon.com/L**ting-America-Destroyed-Pensions-Prosperity/dp/1603582053/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+l**ting+of+america&qid=1551668422&s=books&sr=1-1

Here is a book by Less Leopold that tells the story of the l**ting of America Les co-founded and currently directs The Labor Institute, a non-profit organization that designs research and educational programs on occupational safety and health, the environment and economics for unions, workers centers and community organizations. In addition to "Runaway Ine******y." he is the author of "How to Make a Million Dollars an Hour: Why Financial Elites get away with siphoning off America's Wealth", "The L**ting of America: How Wall Street's Game of Fantasy Finance destroyed our Jobs, Pensions and Prosperity, and What We Can Do About It,", and "The Man Who H**ed Work and Loved Labor: The Life and Times of Tony Mazzocchi,"
amazon.com
Yes Clinton could have vetoed the modernization ac... (show quote)


Nickolai, how can you conclude that Clinton was acting to:
"carrying out Ronald Reagan's Reaganomics program," and simultaneously be "a member of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC)... the goal of which is to 'modernize the progressive tradition in American politics.' The DLC further highlights its commitment to a 'Third Way' agenda that includes some apparently conservative as well as leftwing guiding principles."

This is Orwellian doublespeak. Reaganomics (cutting taxes and less government) is 180 degrees around from the Progressive Tradition (taxing and spending, building a massive government bureaucracy and public dependency upon that massive bureaucracy).

This entire scenario of the rich corporations causing the widening gap between rich and poor, according to labor lackey Less Leopold, is a mirage. The widening gap between rich and poor is the direct result of Karl Marx's 2 point plan to create a underclass, 1) implementing a progressive tax (eliminating rising competitors in industry); 2) creating a government central bank, the Federal Reserve, that can devalue the currency at will, money today becomes worthless tomorrow, to hold the working poor down, property-less, trapped on the government plantation.

Do you know that the Bilderberg Group helped finance Governor Clinton's p**********l campaign? This secret club of billionaires, royalty, media moguls and galloping global corporations have a plot to install One World Government of socialism, ending nation-states and their sovereignty. The history of the Bilderberg Group, its ties to Hitler's chemical combine, I.G. Farben and one of its 800 subsidiaries in the Netherlands, I.G. Farben Bilder, is heavily documented by Daniel Estulin.

The biggest enemy behind this "widening gap between rich and poor" is INFLATION created by the currency manipulation of the Federal Reserve Bank. With mass production, more goods and services manufactured at a lower cost, the cost of living should go down, as our standard of living goes up! The dollar should be growing stronger and stronger, not reduced to 3 Cents since the inception of the Federal Reserve Bank's endless printing of funny money and disbursing it all over the globe! None dare call it counterfeit.

Every time one of these billionaires yells "Tax the Rich" you had better put your thinking cap on and see what he is up to. There's nothing better for a monopoly than to hire the politicians and IRS to eliminate your rising competitors through a progressive tax. Think, think, think. Do you really think Warren Buffett loves you?

Poor are pitted against the rich, race against race, young against old, religion against religion, the old divide and conquer scenario. Ged rid of the Federal Reserve Bank and Marx's Progressive Tax. Problem solved.

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Mar 4, 2019 02:43:26   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Please, kHH1, elaborate on the "evidence". You can't because there is none. The only evidence turned up by Mueller is evidence against Hillary and the DNC who colluded with Russians to fabricate a h**eful dossier that was used to justify wiretapping Trump's campaign staff. That is not evidence against Trump; it is evidence against Hillary and the DNC.

Please, kHH1, elaborate on the "evidence".


Economist Don, you forgot something. It was Mueller who delivered the uranium sample to the Russians in that secret exchange at the Moscow airport tarmac. Obama, Hillary Clinton and Robert Mueller are guilty of collusion with the Russians while selling out 20% of our uranium stock to a dubious dealer named Vladimir Putin. This was all part of the pay-to-play scheme between the Clinton Foundation and Secretary Hillary Clinton.

Lock 'em up, Lock them all up!

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Mar 4, 2019 12:24:14   #
Nickolai
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
Nickolai, how can you conclude that Clinton was acting to:
"carrying out Ronald Reagan's Reaganomics program," and simultaneously be "a member of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC)... the goal of which is to 'modernize the progressive tradition in American politics.' The DLC further highlights its commitment to a 'Third Way' agenda that includes some apparently conservative as well as leftwing guiding principles."

This is Orwellian doublespeak. Reaganomics (cutting taxes and less government) is 180 degrees around from the Progressive Tradition (taxing and spending, building a massive government bureaucracy and public dependency upon that massive bureaucracy).

This entire scenario of the rich corporations causing the widening gap between rich and poor, according to labor lackey Less Leopold, is a mirage. The widening gap between rich and poor is the direct result of Karl Marx's 2 point plan to create a underclass, 1) implementing a progressive tax (eliminating rising competitors in industry); 2) creating a government central bank, the Federal Reserve, that can devalue the currency at will, money today becomes worthless tomorrow, to hold the working poor down, property-less, trapped on the government plantation.

Do you know that the Bilderberg Group helped finance Governor Clinton's p**********l campaign? This secret club of billionaires, royalty, media moguls and galloping global corporations have a plot to install One World Government of socialism, ending nation-states and their sovereignty. The history of the Bilderberg Group, its ties to Hitler's chemical combine, I.G. Farben and one of its 800 subsidiaries in the Netherlands, I.G. Farben Bilder, is heavily documented by Daniel Estulin.

The biggest enemy behind this "widening gap between rich and poor" is INFLATION created by the currency manipulation of the Federal Reserve Bank. With mass production, more goods and services manufactured at a lower cost, the cost of living should go down, as our standard of living goes up! The dollar should be growing stronger and stronger, not reduced to 3 Cents since the inception of the Federal Reserve Bank's endless printing of funny money and disbursing it all over the globe! None dare call it counterfeit.

Every time one of these billionaires yells "Tax the Rich" you had better put your thinking cap on and see what he is up to. There's nothing better for a monopoly than to hire the politicians and IRS to eliminate your rising competitors through a progressive tax. Think, think, think. Do you really think Warren Buffett loves you?

Poor are pitted against the rich, race against race, young against old, religion against religion, the old divide and conquer scenario. Ged rid of the Federal Reserve Bank and Marx's Progressive Tax. Problem solved.
Nickolai, how can you conclude that Clinton was ac... (show quote)








“two for the price of one” during the 1992 campaign, the pair had cast their lot in with those who moved the party to the right, most notably when Bill Clinton became head of the DLC—the Democratic Leadership Council, or as Jesse Jackson called it“Democrats for the Leisure Class.” The DLC was crucial to the Clinton's rise to power,so it's absolutely essential to understand it, if one wants to understand their politics—and that of the party they've so profoundly reshaped—all the way up through Hillary Clinton's most recent rearticulation of the day.





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An excellent starting point for understanding this comes via the much broader focus of Thomas Ferguson and Joel Rogers's book,
Right Turn: The Decline of the Democrats and the Future of American Politics. While the book makes references going back to the Carter era, it opens with a meeting of twenty top Democratic Party fund-raisers three weeks after Walter Mondale's landslide loss in the 1984 e******n,
where they discussed “
1988 and how they could have more policy influence in that campaign, how they might use their fund-raising sk**ls to move the party toward their business oriented, centrist viewpoints,” as the Washington Post reported the next day.
It goes on to describe how, two days later, a closely-related group, the Coalition for a Democratic Majority, sponsored a similarly-themed public forum that drew national press attention, dominated by speeches given by Arizona governor Bruce Babbitt and Virginia governor Charles Robb, who, in turn, were also prominent founding members of the Democratic Leadership Council in the following spring, along with Missouri Representative Richard Gephardt and
Georgia Senator Sam Nunn

The moderate and conservative Democrats didn't make it past the first round in its primaries in 1984 and we want to change that,” said Nunn, a major Democratic proponent of increased military spending who had backed John Glenn in the 1984 race. Right Turn makes it abundantly clear that the DLC was just one facet of a much broader mosaic of elite political reorientation—a reorientation profoundly out of step with the American people, as the book also takes pains to point out. “The basic orientation is announced in the opening paragraph,” We still believe in liberty and justice for all, in mercy for the afflicted and help for the down and out. But we no longer automatically favor unions and big government or oppose the military and big business. Indeed, in our search for solutions that work, we have to distrust all automatic responses, liberal or conservative.

This captures neoliberalism in a nutshell: a disavowal of New Deal liberalism in the posture of open-mindness, which (“Ooops, I did it again!”) repeatedly lends itself to conservative cooptation. It quickly became a popular stance in the Democratic donor class, spread further by the publications they financed and other political infrastructure. Still, the DLC emerged to play a much more central role than most of the other forces involvHe was not afraid to challenge old orthodoxies. In the early 1980s, he and Hillary Clinton pushed cutting-edge education reforms, like pay for performance and public-school choice, against the opposition of the powerful Arkansas Education Association. specifically because of Bill Clinton. Clinton was a natural fit for DLC. Both Clintons, in fact:


The same, of course, is true of Hillary Clinton as well: however smart, educated, and otherwise well-qualified she may be—as much as anyone in her generation, arguably—she would never have been where she is today without her husband's charisma and political smarts, which in turn undermines her retroactive efforts to disavow the path they blazed together. And that path was labeled “progressive” because they decided to label it so—as push-back against journalists' more accurate recognition that it represented a conservative force within the Democratic Party. As In 1991, Clinton told a DLC conference in Cleveland: “Our New Choice plainly rejects the old ideologies and the false choices they impose. Our agenda isn’t liberal or conservative. It is both, and it is different.” This denial of labels was a way of getting people to listen. Eventually, though, needing a label, From settled on “progressive,” an ironic choice. During the Cold War, “progressive” had meant left of liberal (as in Henry Wallace’s Progressive Party), but it now came to refer vaguely to any viewpoint left of center. They called the DLC’s policy arm the Progressive Policy Institute because they was tired of his organization being described by journalists as conservative.


It t***sformed the party into the other neoliberal political party that differed from the Republican party only by social wedge issues. Otherwise they were both right wing parties

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Mar 4, 2019 15:24:29   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Nickolai wrote:
“two for the price of one” during the 1992 campaign, the pair had cast their lot in with those who moved the party to the right, most notably when Bill Clinton became head of the DLC—the Democratic Leadership Council, or as Jesse Jackson called it“Democrats for the Leisure Class.” The DLC was crucial to the Clinton's rise to power,so it's absolutely essential to understand it, if one wants to understand their politics—and that of the party they've so profoundly reshaped—all the way up through Hillary Clinton's most recent rearticulation of the day.





00:00

00:00


00:00

An excellent starting point for understanding this comes via the much broader focus of Thomas Ferguson and Joel Rogers's book,
Right Turn: The Decline of the Democrats and the Future of American Politics. While the book makes references going back to the Carter era, it opens with a meeting of twenty top Democratic Party fund-raisers three weeks after Walter Mondale's landslide loss in the 1984 e******n,
where they discussed “
1988 and how they could have more policy influence in that campaign, how they might use their fund-raising sk**ls to move the party toward their business oriented, centrist viewpoints,” as the Washington Post reported the next day.
It goes on to describe how, two days later, a closely-related group, the Coalition for a Democratic Majority, sponsored a similarly-themed public forum that drew national press attention, dominated by speeches given by Arizona governor Bruce Babbitt and Virginia governor Charles Robb, who, in turn, were also prominent founding members of the Democratic Leadership Council in the following spring, along with Missouri Representative Richard Gephardt and
Georgia Senator Sam Nunn

The moderate and conservative Democrats didn't make it past the first round in its primaries in 1984 and we want to change that,” said Nunn, a major Democratic proponent of increased military spending who had backed John Glenn in the 1984 race. Right Turn makes it abundantly clear that the DLC was just one facet of a much broader mosaic of elite political reorientation—a reorientation profoundly out of step with the American people, as the book also takes pains to point out. “The basic orientation is announced in the opening paragraph,” We still believe in liberty and justice for all, in mercy for the afflicted and help for the down and out. But we no longer automatically favor unions and big government or oppose the military and big business. Indeed, in our search for solutions that work, we have to distrust all automatic responses, liberal or conservative.

This captures neoliberalism in a nutshell: a disavowal of New Deal liberalism in the posture of open-mindness, which (“Ooops, I did it again!”) repeatedly lends itself to conservative cooptation. It quickly became a popular stance in the Democratic donor class, spread further by the publications they financed and other political infrastructure. Still, the DLC emerged to play a much more central role than most of the other forces involvHe was not afraid to challenge old orthodoxies. In the early 1980s, he and Hillary Clinton pushed cutting-edge education reforms, like pay for performance and public-school choice, against the opposition of the powerful Arkansas Education Association. specifically because of Bill Clinton. Clinton was a natural fit for DLC. Both Clintons, in fact:


The same, of course, is true of Hillary Clinton as well: however smart, educated, and otherwise well-qualified she may be—as much as anyone in her generation, arguably—she would never have been where she is today without her husband's charisma and political smarts, which in turn undermines her retroactive efforts to disavow the path they blazed together. And that path was labeled “progressive” because they decided to label it so—as push-back against journalists' more accurate recognition that it represented a conservative force within the Democratic Party. As In 1991, Clinton told a DLC conference in Cleveland: “Our New Choice plainly rejects the old ideologies and the false choices they impose. Our agenda isn’t liberal or conservative. It is both, and it is different.” This denial of labels was a way of getting people to listen. Eventually, though, needing a label, From settled on “progressive,” an ironic choice. During the Cold War, “progressive” had meant left of liberal (as in Henry Wallace’s Progressive Party), but it now came to refer vaguely to any viewpoint left of center. They called the DLC’s policy arm the Progressive Policy Institute because they was tired of his organization being described by journalists as conservative.


It t***sformed the party into the other neoliberal political party that differed from the Republican party only by social wedge issues. Otherwise they were both right wing parties
“two for the price of one” during the 1992 campaig... (show quote)


BS Put on my hip boots. The Clintons are anything but "moderate Democrats." [b]They are treasonous c*******ts of the highest order selling our country out to every socialist despot and dictator on earth. Look at both Bill and Hillary Clintons' campaign donors, the Red Chinese and the Bilderberg Group.

Wake up, stop gobbling down the labor union lackey propaganda. Bill Clinton, "the first Black president" ????

Gimme a break!

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Mar 4, 2019 15:30:25   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
[quote=CounterRevolutionary]BS Put on my hip boots. The Clintons are anything but "moderate Democrats." [b]They are treasonous c*******ts of the highest order selling our country out to every socialist despot and dictator on earth. Look at both Bill and Hillary Clintons' campaign donors, the Red Chinese and the Bilderberg Group.

Wake up, stop gobbling down the labor union lackey propaganda. Bill Clinton, "the first Black president" ????

Gimme a break![/quote]

They must be damn smart not to be indicted by the Reflublicans.

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Mar 4, 2019 16:06:07   #
Nickolai
 
[quote=CounterRevolutionary]BS Put on my hip boots. The Clintons are anything but "moderate Democrats." [b]They are treasonous c*******ts of the highest order selling our country out to every socialist despot and dictator on earth. Look at both Bill and Hillary Clintons' campaign donors, the Red Chinese and the Bilderberg Group.

Wake up, stop gobbling down the labor union lackey propaganda. Bill Clinton, "the first Black president" ????

Gimme a break![/quote]







Bill Clinton’s Five Major Achievements Were Longstanding GOP Objectives
Thomas Frank, author of Listen, Liberal, discusses the Hillary Doctrine’s basis in neoliberalism, how the Democratic Party stopped governing on behalf of the working class and how President Bill Clinton’s major achievements actually enacted conservative goals, and ultimately hurt working people. The innovation class, the creative class, the wealthy class, the professional class with Ivy League degrees: How did President Obama become the avatar for believing these groups should be the decision makers in government?

Thomas Frank: Obama thinks such people should be in charge because they came up through the same system as him. “Because he himself was a product of the great American postwar meritocracy,” his biographer Jonathan Alter writes, “he could never fully escape seeing the world from the status ladder he had ascended.” Most of our other Democratic leaders (the Clintons, for example) came up the same way and believe the same thing. Indeed, what Alter describes is standard-issue stuff for Democrats these days. The Democrats are a class party in the fullest sense of the phrase, and the class whose perspective they reflect and whose interests they serve is the highly educated, white-collar professional class. Theirs is a liberalism of the rich


Clinton never had a really great relationship with workers’ organizations, but the worst thing Clinton did to them was NAFTA. There were many trade agreements, of course, but NAFTA was the one that mattered, both because it was the first one and because labor put everything into stopping it. Indeed labor had stopped it when George H. W. Bush tried to get it through Congress. Clinton got it done, however, with a little muscle and a vast fog of preposterous claims about how NAFTA would increase exports and manufacturing employment.His admirers saw NAFTA as his “finest hour,” because he had stood up to a traditional Democratic constituency. What an achievement. NAFTA handed employers all over America the ultimate weapon against workers: They could now credibly threaten to pick up and leave at the slightest show of worker backbone — and they make such threats all the time now.


In 1992, Clinton ran as a populist, deploring income ine******y, but that was just an act. As president he seems immediately to have decided to cast his fortunes — and those of his party — with Wall Street. Bank deregulation was a persistent policy of his from the very beginning — he signed the Riegle-Neal Act in 1994, for example, and the Mexican bailout (a big favor to Wall Street) came shortly thereafter. Along the way, he helped bail out a too-big-to-fail hedge fund, he twice appointed Alan Greenspan to run the Federal Reserve and he ensured that certain derivative securities would not have any kind of federal supervision at all. At the time, Clinton’s admirers thought this record was something to boast about. He had brought his party out of the Rooseveltian dark ages and had embraced modernity, etc.


Why did he do it? My explanation is simple class identification. Clinton’s real class story has to do with his career in college and graduate school, where he became a star of the rising professional cohort. People with this kind of background saw (and still see) Wall Street as a part of the enlightened world, a part of the world inhabited by people just like them. They’re so smart! Plucking wealth from thin air! This is a little off message regarding the book, but can you speculate why the Republicans were so obsessed with removing Clinton from office when he was fulfilling so much of the GOP agenda, including negotiating with Newt Gingrich about cutting Medicare and Social Security?

NAFTA, the Crime Bill of 1994, welfare reform, the deregulation of banks and telecoms, and the balanced budget. All of them — every single one — were longstanding Republican objectives. His smaller achievements were more traditionally Democratic (he raised the earned-income tax credit and the minimum wage), but his big accomplishments all enacted conservative wishes, and then all of them ended in disaster. So why did the right try so hard to get rid of him? For one thing, because they always do that. They never suspend the war or stop pushing rightward. There is no point at which they say, “OK, we’ve won enough.” For another, because Gingrich couldn’t control the rank and file, a problem that persists to this day.

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Mar 4, 2019 17:08:34   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Nickolai wrote:
Bill Clinton’s Five Major Achievements Were Longstanding GOP Objectives
Thomas Frank, author of Listen, Liberal, discusses the Hillary Doctrine’s basis in neoliberalism, how the Democratic Party stopped governing on behalf of the working class and how President Bill Clinton’s major achievements actually enacted conservative goals, and ultimately hurt working people. The innovation class, the creative class, the wealthy class, the professional class with Ivy League degrees: How did President Obama become the avatar for believing these groups should be the decision makers in government?

Thomas Frank: Obama thinks such people should be in charge because they came up through the same system as him. “Because he himself was a product of the great American postwar meritocracy,” his biographer Jonathan Alter writes, “he could never fully escape seeing the world from the status ladder he had ascended.” Most of our other Democratic leaders (the Clintons, for example) came up the same way and believe the same thing. Indeed, what Alter describes is standard-issue stuff for Democrats these days. The Democrats are a class party in the fullest sense of the phrase, and the class whose perspective they reflect and whose interests they serve is the highly educated, white-collar professional class. Theirs is a liberalism of the rich


Clinton never had a really great relationship with workers’ organizations, but the worst thing Clinton did to them was NAFTA. There were many trade agreements, of course, but NAFTA was the one that mattered, both because it was the first one and because labor put everything into stopping it. Indeed labor had stopped it when George H. W. Bush tried to get it through Congress. Clinton got it done, however, with a little muscle and a vast fog of preposterous claims about how NAFTA would increase exports and manufacturing employment.His admirers saw NAFTA as his “finest hour,” because he had stood up to a traditional Democratic constituency. What an achievement. NAFTA handed employers all over America the ultimate weapon against workers: They could now credibly threaten to pick up and leave at the slightest show of worker backbone — and they make such threats all the time now.


In 1992, Clinton ran as a populist, deploring income ine******y, but that was just an act. As president he seems immediately to have decided to cast his fortunes — and those of his party — with Wall Street. Bank deregulation was a persistent policy of his from the very beginning — he signed the Riegle-Neal Act in 1994, for example, and the Mexican bailout (a big favor to Wall Street) came shortly thereafter. Along the way, he helped bail out a too-big-to-fail hedge fund, he twice appointed Alan Greenspan to run the Federal Reserve and he ensured that certain derivative securities would not have any kind of federal supervision at all. At the time, Clinton’s admirers thought this record was something to boast about. He had brought his party out of the Rooseveltian dark ages and had embraced modernity, etc.


Why did he do it? My explanation is simple class identification. Clinton’s real class story has to do with his career in college and graduate school, where he became a star of the rising professional cohort. People with this kind of background saw (and still see) Wall Street as a part of the enlightened world, a part of the world inhabited by people just like them. They’re so smart! Plucking wealth from thin air! This is a little off message regarding the book, but can you speculate why the Republicans were so obsessed with removing Clinton from office when he was fulfilling so much of the GOP agenda, including negotiating with Newt Gingrich about cutting Medicare and Social Security?

NAFTA, the Crime Bill of 1994, welfare reform, the deregulation of banks and telecoms, and the balanced budget. All of them — every single one — were longstanding Republican objectives. His smaller achievements were more traditionally Democratic (he raised the earned-income tax credit and the minimum wage), but his big accomplishments all enacted conservative wishes, and then all of them ended in disaster. So why did the right try so hard to get rid of him? For one thing, because they always do that. They never suspend the war or stop pushing rightward. There is no point at which they say, “OK, we’ve won enough.” For another, because Gingrich couldn’t control the rank and file, a problem that persists to this day.
Bill Clinton’s Five Major Achievements Were Longst... (show quote)


Your long tedious exhausting posts are getting so old Nicki.

I know how to keep it short and simple...



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Mar 4, 2019 17:22:06   #
Nickolai
 
bdamage wrote:
Your long tedious exhausting posts are getting so old Nicki.

I know how to keep it short and simple...






Short and simple for simple minds-- Sorry that your mind can't handle any complexity or anything that might require any thinking, but that's the way conservative minds work the minuet it has to think it blinks out. They look at the complexity of life on earth and think no conservative could do all this so a God must a dun it

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Mar 4, 2019 17:25:48   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Nickolai wrote:
Bill Clinton’s Five Major Achievements Were Longstanding GOP Objectives
Thomas Frank, author of Listen, Liberal, discusses the Hillary Doctrine’s basis in neoliberalism, how the Democratic Party stopped governing on behalf of the working class and how President Bill Clinton’s major achievements actually enacted conservative goals, and ultimately hurt working people. The innovation class, the creative class, the wealthy class, the professional class with Ivy League degrees: How did President Obama become the avatar for believing these groups should be the decision makers in government?

Thomas Frank: Obama thinks such people should be in charge because they came up through the same system as him. “Because he himself was a product of the great American postwar meritocracy,” his biographer Jonathan Alter writes, “he could never fully escape seeing the world from the status ladder he had ascended.” Most of our other Democratic leaders (the Clintons, for example) came up the same way and believe the same thing. Indeed, what Alter describes is standard-issue stuff for Democrats these days. The Democrats are a class party in the fullest sense of the phrase, and the class whose perspective they reflect and whose interests they serve is the highly educated, white-collar professional class. Theirs is a liberalism of the rich


Clinton never had a really great relationship with workers’ organizations, but the worst thing Clinton did to them was NAFTA. There were many trade agreements, of course, but NAFTA was the one that mattered, both because it was the first one and because labor put everything into stopping it. Indeed labor had stopped it when George H. W. Bush tried to get it through Congress. Clinton got it done, however, with a little muscle and a vast fog of preposterous claims about how NAFTA would increase exports and manufacturing employment.His admirers saw NAFTA as his “finest hour,” because he had stood up to a traditional Democratic constituency. What an achievement. NAFTA handed employers all over America the ultimate weapon against workers: They could now credibly threaten to pick up and leave at the slightest show of worker backbone — and they make such threats all the time now.


In 1992, Clinton ran as a populist, deploring income ine******y, but that was just an act. As president he seems immediately to have decided to cast his fortunes — and those of his party — with Wall Street. Bank deregulation was a persistent policy of his from the very beginning — he signed the Riegle-Neal Act in 1994, for example, and the Mexican bailout (a big favor to Wall Street) came shortly thereafter. Along the way, he helped bail out a too-big-to-fail hedge fund, he twice appointed Alan Greenspan to run the Federal Reserve and he ensured that certain derivative securities would not have any kind of federal supervision at all. At the time, Clinton’s admirers thought this record was something to boast about. He had brought his party out of the Rooseveltian dark ages and had embraced modernity, etc.


Why did he do it? My explanation is simple class identification. Clinton’s real class story has to do with his career in college and graduate school, where he became a star of the rising professional cohort. People with this kind of background saw (and still see) Wall Street as a part of the enlightened world, a part of the world inhabited by people just like them. They’re so smart! Plucking wealth from thin air! This is a little off message regarding the book, but can you speculate why the Republicans were so obsessed with removing Clinton from office when he was fulfilling so much of the GOP agenda, including negotiating with Newt Gingrich about cutting Medicare and Social Security?

NAFTA, the Crime Bill of 1994, welfare reform, the deregulation of banks and telecoms, and the balanced budget. All of them — every single one — were longstanding Republican objectives. His smaller achievements were more traditionally Democratic (he raised the earned-income tax credit and the minimum wage), but his big accomplishments all enacted conservative wishes, and then all of them ended in disaster. So why did the right try so hard to get rid of him? For one thing, because they always do that. They never suspend the war or stop pushing rightward. There is no point at which they say, “OK, we’ve won enough.” For another, because Gingrich couldn’t control the rank and file, a problem that persists to this day.
Bill Clinton’s Five Major Achievements Were Longst... (show quote)



Was triggering 9/11 one of Bill Clinton's major objectives?
Yes. Read up on Hillary's electronic banking ties and the greatest bank heist ever to go down on 9/12/2001 to subsidize the Russian Mafia takeover of the Kremlin and al Qaeda:

https://wikispooks.com/w/index.php?title=Document:Collateral_Damage_911&printable=yes
Document:Collateral Damage 911 From Wikispooks
by E. P. Heidner, dated January 9, 2010

"How 9/11 buried "the biggest financial crimes in history". An analysis of the highly complex web of US/UK covert operations and criminal banking activities going back to WW2, suggesting Western complicity in the collapse of the Soviet Union and the subsequent l**ting of Soviet industry. The ostensible settlement/roll-over for these instruments were dated through September 2001 and would have clinched several high-level criminal investigations had they been allowed to settle normally."

This as a 79 page report with over 200 footnotes. Check out the role of Robert Mueller and Hillary Clinton in the 9/11 attack in the banking community and you will see how they are protecting eachother.

Follow the money, baby, follow the money.

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Mar 4, 2019 17:38:08   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Nickolai wrote:
Short and simple for simple minds-- Sorry that your mind can't handle any complexity or anything that might require any thinking, but that's the way conservative minds work the minuet it has to think it blinks out. They look at the complexity of life on earth and think no conservative could do all this so a God must a dun it


It is the Republicans growth policies for business that promote the prosperity of the working class.
President Trump is the President of JOBS. Clinton signed NAFTA and granted China First Nation Trade Status, sucking out half of American industry and jobs abroad.

If you had watched Trump's campaign rallies, he toured the desolate boarded up factories and mill towns that Clinton gave us. Clinton's objectives were in no way Republican objectives. Chicago, Detroit, the rust belt, the coal mines, all shut down because of the Democrats.

The Democrats are socialist, redistributing the poverty. Just look at LBJ's destruction of the Black family in his Great Society, putting B****s back on the government plantation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSRZo1BE5o
Chicago Unchained: Black Activists Slam Democrat Plantation
1,162,161 views

PS. God gave everybody free agency, born free. Humanity cannot suffer s***ery under socialism any more. President Trump is the world's liberator.

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Mar 4, 2019 17:42:36   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
bdamage wrote:
Your long tedious exhausting posts are getting so old Nicki.

I know how to keep it short and simple...


Yep, Stalin ens***ed and massacred 100 million of his own citizens by the time he died in 1953.
Today, Putin is paying women to bear children, their workforce so depleted, and the country has returned the Russian Orthodox Church to establish a code of morality.

Isn't not amazing how LBJ, Clinton and Obama devastated the Black community? Ghettoed in the Projects under LBJ's Great Society on welfare with the Government for daddy; stripped of blue collar jobs under NAFTA and China trade policies by Clinton, and overcome with Mexican gangs with Obama's open borders.

We need to reign in Nicolai's propaganda. I don't know where he cuts and pastes these articles, but it is a really deceptive tragedy that this pool of nonsense is peddled to the poor who are so miserably misinformed.

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Mar 4, 2019 17:47:09   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Nickolai wrote:
Short and simple for simple minds-- Sorry that your mind can't handle any complexity or anything that might require any thinking, but that's the way conservative minds work the minuet it has to think it blinks out. They look at the complexity of life on earth and think no conservative could do all this so a God must a dun it


There is absolutely nothing complex about your babble.
It's simple, distract, deceive, and undermine this country is finally taking .

You've got nothing but incoherent words to backup an ideology that will never work.

Get with the program Nikki!



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