Tug484

I don't know if we over charged CA. or not, but if we did, it had to be the shipping or use of the pipeline.
What used to make me mad is, I'm sitting in the middle of the Permian Basin and I pay way over 3 dollars for a gallon of gas.
Then we ship oil to the north, so they get heat for a buck something.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Don't recall why but gas shipping prices are fixed from the well head at Tulsa, OK. I used to know this when I was a kid living in Tulsa, The Oil Capitol of the World. But I'm guessing it made some folks wealthy.

Tug484

There are wealthy oil men.
Three of the top ten wealthiest lived in Midland.
My husband took a job with one, but it sure didn't pay reverse rig or fishing tool operator wages.
They even went much higher after he died and my son started doing the same thing.
His first check when he started doing that had $4,000.00 taken out for taxes.

Seth

That would rile me a bit, too, you could at least get some sort of home field advantage. It would be like paying New York price for a pack of cigarettes in Virginia.

Tug484

Yes.
They want the healtcare like Canada.
In 2006 I was given a pack of Canadian cigarettes.
He either said they cost 5 or 10 dollars.
There were 5 in the pack.
That is going to happen to everything we buy to pay for their nonsense.
They want unjust laws for us.

Airforceone

Well murder of Unborn children. How about repealing the ACA kick 28 million off healthcare where 5 million people a year are dead because of lack of healthcare. How about the 40,000 people dead from gun violence, the only option is do nothing, how about the 12,000 kids that will die every year without CHIP how many kids will starve to death without Food stamps. So your agenda is murder these people after there born.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Obamacare was a huge lie. It hurt more people than it helped. The cost of trying to build a web site for obamacare cost more than the wall Trump wants to protect Americans and they never did get the web site right. So far as the rest of your garbage....pstooie! Nothing comes close to the murder and dismemberment of 60 million unborn children. You're monsters! Make no mistake about it!

Seth

AF1 and his fellow travelers must really h**e the Tennessee state legislature; they just passed a law that if a baby has a heartbeat, he/she can't be aborted.

Got a heartbeat, AirFarce1's soul mates can't murder it.

Seth

As I recall, King Obama started DACA without consulting Congress, and he got a pass. Had Trump done something similar, Pelosi and friends and the MSM would've been shouting from the rooftops.

Then, when they didn't need the DACA people anymore, the Dems pretty much threw them under a bus. Very treacherous, those Democrats, use whoever they need to use to achieve wh**ever political objective they're after, then toss them aside like a broken toy when they don't need them anymore.

I've read a few OpEds by DACA folks, and they feel about the treacherous Dems the same way Haitians feel about the Clinton Foundation after their phony, money-grubbing, disastrous hurricane "aid."

We ought to give them (the DACA people) citizenship just to watch them v**e Republican and spit on the Democrats.

Airforceone

Stop with the Obamacare it’s helping a lot more people than you can imagine. Not only did it help 28 million people without healthcare, it forced the insurance companies to re write millions of existing policies to eliminate max payouts, the ability to cancel your policy if you got sick they were called bogus policies. The only people that are unhappy are in the red states that refused to sign up for Medicaid expansion.

Obamacare was a big piece of legislation it took time for people to understand this legislation, in 2014 it had a negative approval rating which republicans were shooting there mouth off. Right now the approval rating is at 62% because more and more people are beginning to understand it. The negative reaction comes from a few red states that did not sign up for Medicaid expansion and are still giving free healthcare which causes premiums in those states to go up. Then add in Trump eliminating the mandate cost of premiums went up. But most states are now creating there own mandate. And there own insurance pools to get even cheaper premiums. So understand Obamacare instead of saying Most people don’t like it you sound like Trump.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Long before obamacare was passed in the middle of the night, behind closed doors, no Republican v****g, long before "we have to pass it to find out what's in it," long before Justice Roberts called it a tax, creating legislation from the bench allowing it to pass mustard, long before money was swiped from Medicare to pay for obamacare, those who could count without using fingers and toes knew the cost was unsustainable. It was and remains a rip off that stupid, ignorant, and irresponsible people believe and demand is a "right" that the government must provide.

Airforceone

First nobody swiped money from Medicare do a little reseach before you post something that never happened.

Obamacare was negotiated over 12 months so using another right wing talking point lacks any common sense (Read to understand what’s in it) thanks Fox News the right wing still using your talking points that lack facts.

Now 26 million people have access to Health insurance. An additional 32 million people now have protection from Max payouts and cancellations if you get sick.

It’s estimated that 90% of the people that had health Insurance prior to the ACA did not read there insurance policy. The only concerns people had was there deductiable, Co-Pays for medication and doctor co-pays thinking there fully covered but never read the entire policy. They did not know the insurance company could cancel anytime they wanted. These people did not even read there company policies.

Mandate repealed by Trump and this really bothers me because the right wing constantly complained about US citizens receiving free healthcare by walking into emergency rooms. Well the mandate address your concerns.

States created insurance polls to put a large number of people under one umbrella and gave the states the authority to negotiate premiums. Larger the number of people in the pool the less there premiums.

Medicaid expansion if you look at states with Medicaid expansion they pay a lot less in premiums than the red states that were not required to sign up for Medicaid expansion.

Example my son an incurable Kidney disease could not get insurance at any cost was living in a state with Medicaid expansion his medical Insurance cost was $385 a month (No Government subsidies because he made to much money) then my son got t***sferred to another state without Medicaid expansion his insurance ballooned to $745 a month.

I read your post and I am not going to use insults what I want you to do is read the ACA and understand what’s in it. Not just use talking points.

The medical insurance is not state run it’s still run by the private insurance industry. All the ACA has done is put in regulations that protect all Americans not just the wealthy that can afford the best policies. The Insurance companies are doing just fine look st the stock market and there gains.

If the republicans make the comment you have to v**e for it before you know what’s in it is absolutly absurd they were criticizing that bill for a year before it was passed so if they did not read it how did they know what was in it.

Take a state like MA. They had the ACA 4 years before Obamacare and 99.2% of all residents in MA. Have health Insurance and one of lowest Premium rates.

The big plus was that small businesses signed up for those insurance pools and cut there premium cost by 28%. Larger the number of people the cheaper the premiums.

Now in 2014 this country had a nagative opinion of the ACA but now over the last 5 years and Obamacare fully implemented this country has a 62% positive on the ACA. That because people are beginning to understand what’s in it and how it works.

The only states that have a negative opinion of the ACA are red states that declined the Medicaid expansion and not setting up insurance pools.

Trump repealed the mandate and this will be a problem because all Trump did was raise the cost of premiums and the right wing will not be able to blame Obamacare for a country wide increase in there insurance premiums.

Seth

Millions of people whom the Grand Kleptocrat© told "you can keep your health insurance," families who had exactly the coverage they needed at premiums they could afford, lost their health insurance under the so-called "Affordable Care Act"(Obamacare).

Where did you say you obtain your information from? Radio beams from a flying saucer?

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Once that lie was exposed, they decided people "shouldn't have wanted" those policies anyway. Just that statement alone spoke volumes to me.

Seth

Yep, whenever their policies create misery, rather than acknowledge that they messed up as usual, the Democrats merely give the verbal rendition of a throwaway gesture and go off in search of something else to screw up.