oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Read this story about the man who Oklahoma put to death and learn a bit of the t***h about what kind of an animal he really was. You may change your mind to agree with Ms. Coulter and I about the death penalty. I would certainly be with her volunteering for Lockett's firing squad and like her wouldn't want to be one with a blank in the rifle.

That man was no kind of hero other than in the eyes of Rachel Maddow and the New York Times. They failed to tell the story about what he did to earn that penalty but then they lean very far left, don't they?

http://www.anncoulter.com/

bahmer

Absolutely amazing the window dressing that the left goes through to try and prove a point.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

The way these two lefties reported that horrible death that man had to experience just didn't say anything about what kind of life he had lived and how many people he had been willing to k**l or have k**led on the way to his death penalty.

Kevyn

Like it or not we have constitutional protection from cruel and inhumane punishment. As a society we do not torture people to death even if they have done just that to others. The thing that I do not understand is the difficulty with execution drugs. An overdose of an opiate like morphine or heroin will k**l someone quickly and painlessly, the drugs are dirt cheep and readily available why fart around with these other drugs?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I don't know as much about those opiate drugs as most of you leaners seem to know but I do think that states that try to be humane with drugs have to use wh**ever is approved of by the US government. Maybe the only way left is overdose by opiates since so many of you leaners want illegal drugs to be used.

She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia

The execution was botched. That does not change the fact that this man deserved to be put to death. I can't get to upset about the fact that he suffered. I am sure his victim suffered.

They should look into why things went so wrong. However, I really can't get to upset about his suffering.

rumitoid

Reposted from a thread on the same topic.
'Let me see if I have this straight. The person who believes all life is sacred, including the fetus, is just a sanctimonious wuss wanting to appear virtuous? Most of those who oppose the death penalty also oppose a******n, on the same ground: sanctity of life. The vast majority are devout Christians that hold that view by what they understand from scripture. Are you discriminating against their freedom of religion by this attack? Do you have something against the freedom of speech, making opposing voices such as this hypocrites and somehow evil? Do you want our nation to stoop to the ugly character of Mr. Lockett and revel in vicious behavior?

'What this man did would turn the stomach of any decent person and naturally bring up intense feelings of revenge on the same level this creature meted out to his victim. An eye for an eye! But that has never worked and has been repeatedly shown not to work.

'Jesus spoke of Restorative, not Retributive, Justice. But perhaps the Christian command of love, mercy, and forgiveness to all who have sinned, no matter what the crime, is naive and should be forever forsaken for a more "evolved" stance of merciless cruelty? Is this worth considering?'

rumitoid

As a friend of this poster, I have chosen to respond to the vitriolic comments posted above. One must wonder what festers in the soul of another human being consumed with hatred and bitterness. There is no right way to do wrong and the government's actions in the name of the people do not make these activities right. Because another human being decides to descend into the morass of depravity, it is not a license for me to engage in that conduct. I am appalled at what human beings can do to each other, but I take no comfort in an eye for an eye, since it leaves us both blind. Bitterness eat an individual from the inside out, starting with their soul. Any life taken, is a life lost since the gift of life emanates from God Himself. There are places where humans and their faulty judgments are not supposed to go. These are swamplands of bitterness and rage, adding to the sufferings in life, not eliminating them. Everyone who chooses to embrace these ways have many reasons for their choices, but the reasons do not add up to moral justification to engage in the same behaviors as those we seek to execute. Do you remember the small teaching about throwing the first stone?

Kevin J. McCarthy, Ph.D.
www.dismasproject.com

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Hey, I do remember that stuff about throwing the first stone, but in this case the government threw the last stone and then buried the man who had caused deaths before. An eye for an eye is good reasoning but when we get some death penalty assured many people wouldn't do the crime since they would know they had to pay, if caught.

rumitoid

Here is an interesting link that shows that states without the death penalty have significantly lower crime rates. The stats and graphs were taken from public records on crime rate in each state: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates

Here is another that shows the incredibly ugly and unjust history of capital punishment in America: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/the-inhumanity-of-the-death-penalty/361991/

ninetogo

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Kevyn;

Agreed! Activist judges are guilty of judicial overreach in granting stays due to execution drug cocktails causing discomfort. Morphine in mega doses is quick, painfree and WILL stop the heart.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Interesting reading, but where were you when the Supreme Court pulled their trick about death penalty? I well remember the day in 1973 right after they did their thing a robber walked into a bank and told everybody to get on the floor. Yesterday I would have payed for k*****g one of you with my life but today that is no longer around. This told me that without even the threat of death some people were willing to k**l others and this one admitted that he wouldn't have k**led anyone the prior day.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Since we have got away from the original topic let me post the words Coulter used to introduce her article to people.

As described in last week's column, The New York Times and other sanctimonious news outlets censored details about the crime that put Clayton Lockett on death row, the better to generate revulsion at his deserved execution. You might say they buried the facts alive.


For example, the Times neglected to mention anything about the raping that preceded the murdering, which seems odd for a newspaper so consumed with the "War on Women." (At least Lockett never refused to pay for a woman's birth control pills!)


The Times also dropped the part about Lockett's dangerous behavior while incarcerated, such as ordering hits on the witnesses against him, his threats to k**l prison guards, and the bounty of homemade weapons seized from him in prison -- saw blades, sharpened wires, shivs and shanks. (Old Times motto: "All the News That's Fit to Print." New Times motto: "Nobody Likes a Rat.")


The newspaper also failed to report that Lockett had ended up in an adult prison by the age of 16 and then was convicted of four more felonies before committing the torture-murder of Stephanie Neiman that sent him to death row.


No, that information might distract from the Times' florid descriptions of Lockett's execution.

She went on to tell that the New York Times failed to tell any part of the story other than the fact that Lockett was in pain. They just can't tell the real t***h since they are just interested in making a point about the death penalty.

rumitoid

That is one very sad story, OR. It really threw me. Human nature hasn't changed. Can the worst happen here? Of course. It can happen anywhere at anytime. I see that I lived a rather guarded existence as a child and well into my twenties. A certain in-breed naivete to being upper middle class. What loomed as real and big were those stinking Russians, not my next door neighbor or our government. A clear threat I could focus my fear and h**e upon. Today, no clear focus. A frkn email could spell my doom, without having any real ill-intent. Crazy! Avoid movie theaters and malls. Oh, and don't work for the Post Office. Stay away from big cities. Make it a point of putting something over that little eye in your computer and don't say at any time these 133 words. Walk in public with that big nose, mustache, and glasses disguise if you want some measure of privacy as to your movements. Does it trick facial recognition? How knows but I like how little kids look and laugh at me.

angery american Loc: Georgia

I would like to comment on this issue.....Here is something to think about...THE DEATH PENALTY is NOT cruel and inhumane punishment...Locking people up in a small cell for the remainder of their life is CRUEL and INHUMANE punishment....DEATH IS A NATURAL OCCURRENCE that will happen to everyone sooner or later...SOOOO a punishment that speeds this occurrence up is not CRUEL........!!! INHUMANE..? maby?