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Rose42

BigJim wrote:

Some breeds pose more risk to people than others. There is nothing special about pit bulls except their ferocity and fighting ability. Statistically they are much more likely than other breeds to harm humans. While 90% may be gentle, the number not gentle is significant. If they were banned there would still be plenty of other dogs for people. We don't need to eliminate the ones there, but should allow any new breeding.

Where are you getting your statistics?

Ontario, Canada implemented a ban on pit bulls because they thought bites would go down. They went up despite the ban. The problem is not the dog its the owners.

Bans don't work.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Not by a long shot, they are just more often repor... (show quote)

For once we agree.

I guess my house is a recipe for disaster. I have a dog of the Pit Bull variety, firearms, and household cleaners.
Small children are often in my dangerous house.
I should be locked up!

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

archie bunker wrote:

For once we agree.

I guess my house is a recipe for disaster. I have a dog of the Pit Bull variety, firearms, and household cleaners.
Small children are often in my dangerous house.
I should be locked up!

Couldn't they use the guns to fight off the pitbull and then clean up the mess afterwards?

Your house sounds orderly...

Unless you keep the guns out of reaaxh of the children!
Then you would have to train your dog to take out his anger with a good licking spree...
The cleaners should probably still be used...
To remove the slobber...

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

Couldn't they use the guns to fight off the pitbull and then clean up the mess afterwards?

Your house sounds orderly...

Unless you keep the guns out of reaaxh of the children!
Then you would have to train your dog to take out his anger with a good licking spree...
The cleaners should probably still be used...
To remove the slobber...

Ain't this a conundrum?

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

archie bunker wrote:

Ain't this a conundrum?

Only if we waste time thinking about it...

Guns, dogs and cleaning supplies...

Sounds to me like your ready to beat a murder rap...

The pit bull did it

Common_Sense_Matters

archie bunker wrote:

For once we agree.

I guess my house is a recipe for disaster. I have a dog of the Pit Bull variety, firearms, and household cleaners.
Small children are often in my dangerous house.
I should be locked up!

I have owned several pit bulls and known others that have owned some. Handled correctly, a pit is just as safe as any other breed, even around kids. I have seen kids torment pit bulls and they don't seem to mind. Any dog NOT handled correctly can be bad around kids and even adults.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

I have owned several pit bulls and known others that have owned some. Handled correctly, a pit is just as safe as any other breed, even around kids. I have seen kids torment pit bulls and they don't seem to mind. Any dog NOT handled correctly can be bad around kids and even adults.

Ours came here as a pup, and has been tormented, and spoiled all his life, bless his gassy heart!
He is one of the most loving, and bombproof dogs I've ever owned.

Common_Sense_Matters

archie bunker wrote:

Ours came here as a pup, and has been tormented, and spoiled all his life, bless his gassy heart!
He is one of the most loving, and bombproof dogs I've ever owned.

Starting to think one must own a pit to appreciate a pit.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Starting to think one must own a pit to appreciate a pit.

Like being married and having a mother-in-law... Only the opposite

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Starting to think one must own a pit to appreciate a pit.

Ruger is the first that I've ever owned. I had the bias against them myself, and wondered if I screwed up.
I was wrong.
He's a dog. A very hard headed, but loving, and loyal dog. He's a dog.......

JoyV

Rose42 wrote:

That's wrong. The most dangerous dogs are the ones in the hands of i***t owners. No breed is inherently dangerous - its people that make them that way.

Aggression is a natural part of a dog. But fewer and fewer people know how to handle it.

That is mostly true. But some breeds or types are more reactive by nature or have inherited higher prey drives. While some gentle giants would be very difficult to make aggressive even if that was your goal.

For instance, many terriers have been known to be more reactive with dog aggression just under the surface. The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) is actually less so than many terriers, yet its size and strength make it far more dangerous IF it is aggressive than the Cairn Terrier even if the latter were far more aggressive. One breed I have known of no individuals in which were fully trustworthy is the Cane Corso (pronounced CA nay COR so) And they are far larger and more powerful than APBTs. But if breeders select for less aggression, over time they may become one of the gentle giants.

I have had three different Cane Corsos lunge at dogs I am training as guide dogs over the past few years. And at a UKC dog show there was a Cane Corso which I was told was gentle and totally trustworthy. It seemed to be the case as the day progressed
until while being walked by its owner it suddenly pulled away from her and attacked a Standard Poodle who was being primped on a g***ming table. The Cane Corso shook it like a rag doll. At another show a group of 5 APBTs busted out of their RV and attacked me and two of my German Shepherd pups. (I was the only one hurt as I tried to protect my pups while several people charged in to help) But since I have worked with many APBTs who were friendly, calm, and gentle; I don't blame the breed. But it isn't just how they are raised. Some bloodlines are more prone to aggression than others, as are some breeds.

I have been a guide dog trainer since 1968. And have trained many service dogs since 1980. And pet dogs as well as offering free dog classes to 4Hers.

JoyV

Rose42 wrote:

I used to have a Dutch Shepherd some people thought was a pit bull. Most people don't know anything about pit bulls and couldn't properly identify one.

Dutch Shepherds do not even remotely resemble pit bulls.

JoyV

no propaganda please wrote:

Because "progressives" think that there is no right or wrong, will not set boundaries for the dog any more than they do for their children, and make excuses for bad behavior in the dog rather than seeking ways to get the dog to understand what is wanted and how to get the results that are required.

JoyV

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Not by a long shot, they are just more often repor... (show quote)

True! Not to mention that the one reporting may not be good at breed identification.

flash

Rose42 wrote:

Smart dogs will look stupid in the hands of stupid people. Maybe that's what you meant. lol People blame the dogs but its invariably the fault of the human.

My nephew had 2 pit bulls and both were friendly as could be. They weren't raised to be mean but his home owners insurance still went through the roof.