JoyV

With how much the debt was, with the interest; only a miracle could turn the debt around within one term. But if you look at the RATE of debt increase, you'll see it has slowed. The debt doubled under Obama. When Trump came in, it was more than $19 trillion. It has since risen to $21.7 trillion. So in three years it raised by $2 trillion. If the rate does not change for the next 5 years, our debt will raise about $5 trillion during an 8 year Trump term. If it continues to slow, it will be less. While under Obama it raised by almost $10 trillion.

JoyV

So how many polled in "all the national polls" are rural? How many are Republicans? Unless the demographics are balance, the polls only show a skewed result.

JoyV

Government subsidized jobs are generally for minimum wage.
https://www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/assets/tanf_emer_fund-1.pdf

Part time jobs are usually for minimum wage AND rarely include benefits.
https://work.chron.com/average-hourly-wages-parttime-employees-retail-25276.html

Manufacturing jobs are generally far higher than minimum wage.
https://www.payscale.com/research/US/Industry=Manufacturing/Hourly_Rate

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

What point are you trying to make??????????

Common_Sense_Matters

Finally, a Trump supporter that doesn't talk out of his ass. I respect you for that and I do agree, with national debt where it is, it would be impossible to eliminate it in a single term or even 2 terms I think. Trump campaigned with the promise that he would ELIMINATE the debt during his term in office, I am certain that promise was based on an assumption that he would have 2 terms.

I am just wondering why, if he looks to maintain that promise, how did he intend to do this with tax breaks, no obvious effort to reduce spending AND pushing to spend more in increased military spending (not saying I disagree with increased military spending) and a push to spending upwards of $100 billion for a border wall (5,7b now as down payment, further funding as needed to continue project). How was he to eliminate this debt by handing out tax breaks, not reigning in spending and proposing to spend more?

He should have reigned in on some of the promises he was making on the campaign trail, there was no way he COULD accomplish all that he promised while on the campaign trail even if he manages 2 terms in office. Why make the promises when anybody in their right mind can see that they couldn't keep with ALL of them given 2 terms, complete and total cooperation for the entire eight years and best case scenario economy wise much less WITHOUT complete and total cooperation even among the Republicans in congress much less the push back he is getting from the Democrats, that plus he isn't guaranteed 2 terms.

Additional bewilderment, How could ANYBODY in their right mind ever believe that he COULD fulfill ALL his campaign promises EVEN if he had 2 terms, full support and backing, AND pitch perfect economy to support his agenda? I don't think there is nearly enough rose colored glass and optimism to support a belief that he could fulfill them all even under the best of circumstances as he over extended his promises.


P.S. In case you didn't notice, I appreciate your input, it is good to find a Trump supporter that doesn't have his head crammed as far as it can reach up their own ass. Keep up the objectivity that you clearly show.

Common_Sense_Matters

I think he is looking for information on the outsourced jobs, proof of what class of jobs were outsourced.

Jean Deaux

I've got a minor in Economics, sherlock, and I certainly don't need any egotistical remarks from you with your, no doubt, vast educational background. A $21 Trillion national debt, the highest in world history, may not impress you much but you stand alone in that category. I'm sure your great, great, great grand children will curse your spendthrift lout president and his outrageous squandering to ensure many, many generations will remember his heritage.
Bye the way, one reason Trump is having to increase the national debt is because of obama's destruction of our defense forces. That simpleton reduced our military to pre-1940 levels and reduced the number of ships in our Navy to the same amount we had in 1912. As a patriotic American, Trump has been forced to spend on refurbishing our defenses, not necessarily because he wanted to but he honestly felt the need for us to be able to defend ourselves.

Jean Deaux

I was particularly impressed with obama's ability to defy the Constitution with such remarks as his "I have a phone and a pen", conveniently forgetting the "Executive branch" is only 1/3 of our government and that the Legislative and Judicial are also in the government. His managing to push through his unConstitutional medical package what with its constantly increasing premiums and ever enlarging deductibles, to the point many could no longer afford any coverage at all but were forced to enroll was a masterstroke. His sk**l in dismantling our defense forces was a full blown piece of mismanagement as was his failure to rein in our IRS when they attacked the Tea Party with increased taxes.

Perhaps you wish to consider his preventing hillary from her classified e-mail correspondence violations. Or holder and his Mexican gun running operation. Or the dept of education for the free fall of our educational standing of #3 or #4 in the world to halfway down the list of 3rd world nations. Yes sir, he also excelled at bowing and scrapping before foreign leaders and potentates.

And don't forget his inability to activate the SEAL team that took out Osama bin Laden. Leon Panetta was finally forced to give the order after our chicken livered, know nothing, moron was told, for the 5th time by Valery Jarrett that he better not give the order. Didn't stop him from trying to accept credit for the operation though.

Or his current clueless meandering into international politics in a vain attempt to garner some respect from someone, ANYone. I hope it bites him with formal s******n charges for a term to exceed his life expectancy.

Jean Deaux

That finally makes sense of obama's remark about improving our pitiful employment situation. He said Trump would have to have a magic wand to fix it. And look what happened! Lowest unemployment rates in 3 categories: done by reducing taxes and government regulations, bringing back manufacturers from overseas and have jobs available. Now, more jobs than qualified employee candidates. Yeah, it was a heckuva wand!

Jean Deaux

Strange that Trump set records in both Market performance and the lowest unemployment in history for b****s and Hispanics and the lowest unemployment for women in decades. Obama was nothing but a tinker, made a lot of noise and dust but not much in results unless it came to trying to violate our Constitution.

Jean Deaux

I am of like political allegiance, neither Republican nor democrat. I decided on the American Constitution party which is based on, guess what, the Constitution. The same as our government is supposed to be.

Jean Deaux

When I find several stories that corroborate each other I don't take the time to re-research but take it as fact (unless it is from an MSM source, in which case, I disregard it completely). I have several notebooks full of hillaries episodes and, have a rather complete set of her trespasses. Unfortunately, I have to go through them, case by case to find the original source material. I seldom go there unless I need exact numbers (like the amount of money given by each of several defense contractors in anticipation of future consideration for contracts or funds given her by foreign rulers, for the same reasons.)
Unfortunately, many of her escapades were covered by upper echelon FBI officials or Dept of Justice political affiliates that had vested interests in keeping her adventures secret. As Trump is able to weed out swamp rats, the situation gets better but there is far too much leaking and treachery still employed to allow him to drop the hammer and clean out all the hang over trash.

By the way, I take 3 newspapers (none of which are MSM) so I try to keep up with various sources to ensure a more complete viewpoint. I don't listen to the radio at all and primarily watch TV news for local happenings. I trust nothing of liberal origin, they have lied constantly for so long that I no longer feel I can trust them in anything.

I have a question in your last paragraph in which you stated that many manufacturers had already started to return to our shores before 2016. What was the impetus? The democrats had already run them off with high taxes and over regulation. Trump fixed that after the e******n. Obama had no clue as to how to get them to return so why did they start coming back before the e******n?

Sorry about the typo- they get by once in awhile although I try to keep an eye out for them.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Given the fact 76% of the people liked what President Trump said it makes it a little difficult for them now, doesn’t it...
Even the fact checks have been put out as nit picking superfluous BS...

What was funny was Pelosi’s tongue chewing antic and those contorted facial expressions..

Common_Sense_Matters

I have noticed much more "loaded" words (words specifically added to a story to drive emotion) and open political bias in Fox news than any of the so called "Liberal" local news (ABC, CBS, and NBC), but that is just personal observation. I have also checked out many media rating websites (websites that rate bias in media sources) and while they don't deny that choices of what stories to run and what stories to drop (ostensibly due to time/space constraints), all the sites I have found and checked with list those local stations as middle of the road (ABC, CBS and NBC) that make a reasonable attempt to properly source and fact check their stories (and avoid loaded words). Those same sites list Fox news as from moderately right leaning all the way to alt right (Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity) and as I have actually watched Fox news, I can certainly agree with that assessment.

I specifically avoid any AND all sources that are obviously alt left and alt right, there is nothing of value to be gained from either of those extremes' sources.



I wouldn't be able to tell you WHY they chose to return, I only know that I heard/read about them from reliable sources back in 2017.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

76% of the people that watched the lying POS.