Really interesting! I had no idea you felt the biggest national debt in world history was an accomplishment nor one of the biggest un-Constitutional debacles in history what with his medical scheme with its constantly rising premiums and ever increasing deductibles and forced enrollment. Or perhaps you're most proud of his attempts to emasculate us militarily what with his decreases in men and ships or his taking us from #3 or #4 in the world in educational achievement to halfway down the list of 3rd world countries. His "I have a phone and a pen" statement showed the total disregard he showed for the Constitution. But if you are looking for a continuation of "His serene highness, obama" policies and plans, you're knocking on the wrong door! You are a walking typification of the "Stupid is as stupid does"! Try to stifle yourself!

Lets start with the germane. Who is your source, another of obama's "left in place" henchmen? No name, no fame; there is far too much f**e news afloat today and neither Maddow nor MSNBC have shown fit to correct any unt***hs. Trust them at your own hazard!
Your statement that Trump has accomplished nothing is a total bald faced lie!! He has over 100 triumphant endeavors that drive dimocrats and c*******ts nuts because they are designed to make the Republic fall.
He could walk on water, reach down and catch a fish and feed a crowd with it and the liberals would squawk that it was the wrong kind of fish, or wasn't properly cleaned or wasn't cooked enough or something else their fevered, festered minds could imagine, simply because one of their own couldn't do the same thing. Most people are tired of hearing imaginative liberals trying to concoct shameful episodes about our President. The ONLY things libs have been able to do so far is throw childish tantrums with no t***h in fact. Either get on board or get the hell out of our Republic!

I don't get where the right believes Obama almost destroyed the country's economy, was the worst ever... what was Bush? He took a budget surplus and gave it away in tax cuts, ended with a $1.4 Trillion deficit, trashed the housing market, trashed the stock market, lost 25 million jobs, had an 11%+ unemployment rate...

How can Obama be seen to be worse than that? He had almost eight straight uninterrupted years of jobs growth, record stock market numbers continually trending upward, strong housing prices and robust sales, higher numbers of oil drilling permits issued than Bush did, 5% unemployment, put on 14 million jobs... and did it all with record levels of GOP obstruction like we've never seen before.

But the right doesn't want to talk about Bush, the standard answer being "oh, it was all Bush's fault"...which the reality is...yes it was.

Can you imagine if Trump took over from Bush? Tax cuts and chaos would have ended the country. The only reason we aren't tanked right now is a testament to the strength of the economy when Trump took office, because he has systematically done all the wrong things.

Nice try but again you fail. GDP was on an upward trend under Obama as well.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188105/annual-gdp-of-the-united-states-since-1990/


Admittedly, that isn't from a governemtn web site but then I didn't readily see one, if you can find one to prove your point, feel free to post it.

Thus far, your arguments against Obama in this thread are jobs... Upward trend during Obama years CONTINUED into Trump years and GDP...Upward trend under Obama, continued upward trend under Trump, please feel free to offer substantive evidence where Obama failed in those two fronts and Trump masterfully turned things around... Well... That or get off Obama's back about it, very unbecoming to praise someone that steps into an already improving situation without markedly increasing the upward trend while all the while dogging the one that started that upward trend off on the right track.


Oh, and need I remind everyone, I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican, I choose my side based solely on what I relate to the most when I head into the v****g booth/post my opinions online. It is more to do with the issues than the party for me.



Edit: I seem to have forgotten to mention, Obama came in under a recession, one that if allowed to stay the course COULD have rolled over into a depression. I give Obama high marks for turning things around and quite quickly as well. Can anyone here prove that ANYTHING Trump has done while in office made any MARKED improvements in those two upward trends? Both of those charts show a fairly steady upward trend with no MARKED spikes AFTER Trump entered office.

I am not saying he did anything to hinder the upward trend on neither of those two upwardly mobile trends, only that I don't see any marked changes in either of them either. Facts are facts and those that choose to ignore them... Well... Ignorance is just that, ignorance.

In fact, I do seem to remember obama remarking that it would be impossible for Trump to lower the unemployment rates unless he had a magic wand, or some such. Lowering taxes and cutting superfluous regulations certainly played a large part in Trump's success, that and an abundance of common business sense and an overriding sense of patriotism (completely devoid during obama's tenure). All helped return corporate business to this country.

Obama's biggest problem was he was a know nothing "community organizer" and he surrounded himself largely with similar knowledge starved individuals in his cabinet. It turned into a tragedy of the blind leading the blind and supposedly leading the nation down his rose covered path. I'll ask some of you stalwart dev**ees of this individual; what did you expect from individuals like holder and his gun running episode in Mexico, hillary and her uranium sales and her s**ms trying to sell influence to foreign governments and large defense contractors in order to pad her "foundation", lynch out on the tarmac with slick willy just before the e******n, or hillary's B******i bungling or her ignoring his request she not use her personal computer for classified e-mails, slick willies exorbitant fees for speeches to banks like Golden Sacks and on and on!
Or numby himself, with, I believe, 26 social security cards, no proof of any college attendance and very few, if any, that ever saw him on campus. You did a whale of a job vetting this i*****l a***n and consequently the nation suffered the most pathetic president in our history. Ever!!

The right clings to the only numbers that reflect positive, and play them like Trump did that.

Try playing any numbers you want from when Bush left office until Obama left office and tell me how Obama came so close to destroying the economy. the economy was destroyed when Bush left office

Then look at the economy Bush took over from Clinton, it makes Bush look even worse considering how well it had been doing.

Stop playing rhetorical fool's logic and try some simple factual logic.

Anybody who wouldn't want the economy the way it was when Trump took office over this unstable mess is delusional

first of all Trump hasn't done anything in two years that wasn't already in place, the economy was stable and trending positive. This is anything but a stable economy.

In eight years Obama took 11%+ unemployment and reduced it to 5%
the stock market was posting all time record highs, been awhile huh?
real estate prices were growing and houses were selling quickly, going soft now

Think back to when Obama took office, remember the mess everything was in? The economy is about stability, modest or otherwise. Stellar growth and fixes aren't worth it if it crashes the economy. There is a delusion in the minds of Trump supporters about what has been done in two years. The damage over what has been done will be ever more apparent as time goes on. The worst thing being tax cuts that are obviously increasing the deficit and debt load, it was not the right time for that. What was the rush, why do it? It was a last minute money grab by and for the wealthy before the economy crashes.

Contrair, mon ami, I loathed and despised this i*****l a***n imposter with his c*******t leanings, not because he was a democrat but rather because he had not a clue about guiding this nation; rather only its destruction. He reinforced this with his madhat spending, constant vacations, repeated Constitutional violations, trying to destroy our military, his complete lack of backbone and constantly demeaning our nation to foreign leaders.
Obama would have been over his head, even trying to slop hogs, carry hod or shine shoes. But he was really good on the vacation circuit, squandering American money as if he had ever earned any of it. Sky high room rates on the very best a hotel had to offer, incredible meals and feeding half the tribe that accompanied him (not bad for a poor little African boy raised in Indonesia.) What the hell was michael's mom doing accompanying the party. She was a nobody then as she is now; obama should have personally paid ALL of her expenses. Or the 26 hand servants that michael had to have to help "her" with "her" hair, nails, dressing, and on and on. Damned bunch of q***rs on a lark is the best way to describe their travels.
No, blame the democrat party for vetting this pathetic piece of ineptness and setting the nation back during his entire term in office. They covered themselves in rightly earned ridicule for failing to flush this piece of muck when they had the chance. And it had very little to do with him being a democrat or a black. He was just wanting in every way possible!

Again showing ignorance, GDP and national debt are COMPLETELY UNRELATED, get a clue and quit talking about things you know NOTHING about.

IF you would like to talk national debt, it is continuing to go up under Trump, NOT plateaued, NOT decreasing, INCREASING!

Any other comments you wish to make to show your ignorance?


Edit: Please do not construe this post as a claim that national debt did not rise under Obama, it did rise, some of that rise was needed to combat the recession, some was un-necessary.