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Feb 2, 2019 14:26:52   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Pennylynn wrote:
This is simple .... this post was inspired to elicit personal emotions, nothing more. Perhaps he is in search of the true researchers, the analysts, those who do not think emotionally. Who knows... especially because we have no idea on his definitions.....

My belief... not all muslims are scumbags. Certainly the majority that make the news are. And it is worthwhile to note, the majority of the bad actions are squashed and never reported. Having said that, in my experience the average muslim make good neighbors, friends, and leaders. I do not agree with their religion/cult. Ergo, under current (although technically wrong) field of thought, I am Islamaphobic. A phobia is a fear, either rational or not. So, I fear the spread of Islam.

You seem also confused with the word anti-semitic and Judeophobia. Semitic people include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes including Hebrews. So, one can be against, or anti, any one of these peoples and be seen a antisemitic and yes, muslims are protected under both terms; islamaphobic and antisemitic. Although the media has isolated the Jew (religious or Political) as the single target of antisemitism, they are technically wrong. But, the media is not known to be the sharpest tool in the shed. You and eagleye have a fear of Jews, Judeophobia, additionally you are antisemetic (as evidenced by your generalized remarks about muslims) and anti-Israelism under the guise of anti-Z*****m.

So... this boils down to a fear and h**e...One can easily confuse the phrases based on how the media hypes the cause of one or the other.... Islamaphobic becomes inclusive if you bad mouth religion of many muslims, then you are indeed Islamaphobic..... but now if you discriminate against a muslim, regardless of their religious beliefs, you are not technically Islamaphobic but rather anthropophobia. In extreme cases, one can be Xenophobia, meaning a fear of foreigners.

When you think of your response, keep in mind the difference between fear and h**e, although both conditions are evil (in my opinion), they are not the same. Fear=A strong, uncontrollable, unpleasant emotion caused by actual or perceived danger or threat. H**e=extreme dislike toward something. One can fear another without hating them. Likewise you can love a person without liking them or what they do.
This is simple .... this post was inspired to elic... (show quote)


Penny; IMO; every thing to wrote is on target.
Except; "You and eagleye have a fear of Jews, Judeophobia"
I think you know that is not true.
You know where I stand. We have been over that many times.

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Feb 2, 2019 14:54:15   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Perhaps you are more anti-Israelism than suffering from Judeophobia..and we have gone over this many times... I only have your comments to go by, only you know what is in your head and heart.

eagleye13 wrote:
Penny; IMO; every thing to wrote is on target.
Except; "You and eagleye have a fear of Jews, Judeophobia"
I think you know that is not true.
You know where I stand. We have been over that many times.

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Feb 2, 2019 17:13:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
This is simple .... this post was inspired to elicit personal emotions, nothing more. Perhaps he is in search of the true researchers, the analysts, those who do not think emotionally. Who knows... especially because we have no idea on his definitions.....

My belief... not all muslims are scumbags. Certainly the majority that make the news are. And it is worthwhile to note, the majority of the bad actions are squashed and never reported. Having said that, in my experience the average muslim make good neighbors, friends, and leaders. I do not agree with their religion/cult. Ergo, under current (although technically wrong) field of thought, I am Islamaphobic. A phobia is a fear, either rational or not. So, I fear the spread of Islam.

You seem also confused with the word anti-semitic and Judeophobia. Semitic people include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes including Hebrews. So, one can be against, or anti, any one of these peoples and be seen a antisemitic and yes, muslims are protected under both terms; islamaphobic and antisemitic. Although the media has isolated the Jew (religious or Political) as the single target of antisemitism, they are technically wrong. But, the media is not known to be the sharpest tool in the shed. You and eagleye have a fear of Jews, Judeophobia, additionally you are antisemetic (as evidenced by your generalized remarks about muslims) and anti-Israelism under the guise of anti-Z*****m.

So... this boils down to a fear and h**e...One can easily confuse the phrases based on how the media hypes the cause of one or the other.... Islamaphobic becomes inclusive if you bad mouth religion of many muslims, then you are indeed Islamaphobic..... but now if you discriminate against a muslim, regardless of their religious beliefs, you are not technically Islamaphobic but rather anthropophobia. In extreme cases, one can be Xenophobia, meaning a fear of foreigners.

When you think of your response, keep in mind the difference between fear and h**e, although both conditions are evil (in my opinion), they are not the same. Fear=A strong, uncontrollable, unpleasant emotion caused by actual or perceived danger or threat. H**e=extreme dislike toward something. One can fear another without hating them. Likewise you can love a person without liking them or what they do.
This is simple .... this post was inspired to elic... (show quote)


My "Definitions" posts have been, each and every one, about learning from the other members of the OPP...

I have no idea how offering a personal definition of a term could possibly provoke an emotional response...

My Thanks for your comments above...

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Feb 2, 2019 17:59:36   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
It is called reactive emotions, certain key phrases can cause a negative response to even the most seemingly mundane questions. Counselors often employ this technique to force people to examine their honest feelings.... Reactive emotions are actually a defense mechanism against primary emotions, such as feeling anger to avoid sadness or fear to avoid anger. The line of questioning is used sparingly especially if you do not have the entire medical history and is now completely discouraged with dealing with anyone that may suffer from PTSD...



Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
My "Definitions" posts have been, each and every one, about learning from the other members of the OPP...

I have no idea how offering a personal definition of a term could possibly provoke an emotional response...

My Thanks for your comments above...

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Feb 2, 2019 18:04:32   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
It is called reactive emotions, certain key phrases can cause a negative response to even the most seemingly mundane questions. Counselors often employ this technique to force people to examine their honest feelings.... Reactive emotions are actually a defense mechanism against primary emotions, such as feeling anger to avoid sadness or fear to avoid anger. The line of questioning is used sparingly especially if you do not have the entire medical history and is now completely discouraged with dealing with anyone that may suffer from PTSD...
It is called reactive emotions, certain key phrase... (show quote)


Right...

And how would one determine which terms or phrases might elicit these 'reactive emotions'?

Sounds snowflakey to me...


It was an honest question prompted by an earlier conversation with friends....

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Feb 2, 2019 22:53:10   #
Sicilianthing
 
Pennylynn wrote:
This is simple .... this post was inspired to elicit personal emotions, nothing more. Perhaps he is in search of the true researchers, the analysts, those who do not think emotionally. Who knows... especially because we have no idea on his definitions.....

My belief... not all muslims are scumbags. Certainly the majority that make the news are. And it is worthwhile to note, the majority of the bad actions are squashed and never reported. Having said that, in my experience the average muslim make good neighbors, friends, and leaders. I do not agree with their religion/cult. Ergo, under current (although technically wrong) field of thought, I am Islamaphobic. A phobia is a fear, either rational or not. So, I fear the spread of Islam.

You seem also confused with the word anti-semitic and Judeophobia. Semitic people include Arabs, Akkadians, Canaanites, some Ethiopians, and Aramaean tribes including Hebrews. So, one can be against, or anti, any one of these peoples and be seen a antisemitic and yes, muslims are protected under both terms; islamaphobic and antisemitic. Although the media has isolated the Jew (religious or Political) as the single target of antisemitism, they are technically wrong. But, the media is not known to be the sharpest tool in the shed. You and eagleye have a fear of Jews, Judeophobia, additionally you are antisemetic (as evidenced by your generalized remarks about muslims) and anti-Israelism under the guise of anti-Z*****m.

So... this boils down to a fear and h**e...One can easily confuse the phrases based on how the media hypes the cause of one or the other.... Islamaphobic becomes inclusive if you bad mouth religion of many muslims, then you are indeed Islamaphobic..... but now if you discriminate against a muslim, regardless of their religious beliefs, you are not technically Islamaphobic but rather anthropophobia. In extreme cases, one can be Xenophobia, meaning a fear of foreigners.

When you think of your response, keep in mind the difference between fear and h**e, although both conditions are evil (in my opinion), they are not the same. Fear=A strong, uncontrollable, unpleasant emotion caused by actual or perceived danger or threat. H**e=extreme dislike toward something. One can fear another without hating them. Likewise you can love a person without liking them or what they do.
This is simple .... this post was inspired to elic... (show quote)


>>>

Shovel them that explanation you post above about my, our American Christianity,
my Ancestors who settled,
built and died for this place to escape the lunacy of the above,

...only later to be stealthily invaded, colonized and hijacked by extraordinary propaganda, lies, trickery and deceit on a scale never seen in human history,

... Who then fought in every was since the Whiskey R*******n to throw off those very definitions and chains of the perpetrators’ false narratives.

The only thing we have in common on this random Planet called earth is that we’re all humans.

The Conflicting alter ideologies have been proven Non Compatible so go sell it to someone else, I’m not a buyer, the MultiCultural Experiment in America is now Officially over.

You like most people are so deeply brainwashed into this illusion that you’ll probably live out the remainder of your lives believing in all this manufactured anthropological programming disaster.

What we do going forward to turn everything on it’s head and reverse the damages can not be stopped.

Regardless of what you think of me or these facts, America was created for sovereignty and not to be sold off, broken up, t***sformed or hijacked by outside imposters.

That’s all I have to say about it.

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Feb 2, 2019 22:57:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>

Shovel them that explanation you post above about my, our American Christianity,
my Ancestors who settled,
built and died for this place to escape the lunacy of the above,

...only later to be stealthily invaded, colonized and hijacked by extraordinary propaganda, lies, trickery and deceit on a scale never seen in human history,

... Who then fought in every was since the Whiskey R*******n to throw off those very definitions and chains of the perpetrators’ false narratives.

The only thing we have in common on this random Planet called earth is that we’re all humans.

The Conflicting alter ideologies have been proven Non Compatible so go sell it to someone else, I’m not a buyer, the MultiCultural Experiment in America is now Officially over.

You like most people are so deeply brainwashed into this illusion that you’ll probably live out the remainder of your lives believing in all this manufactured anthropological programming disaster.

What we do going forward to turn everything on it’s head and reverse the damages can not be stopped.

Regardless of what you think of me or these facts, America was created for sovereignty and not to be sold off, broken up, t***sformed or hijacked by outside imposters.

That’s all I have to say about it.
>>> br br Shovel them that explanation y... (show quote)


I do hope we can stay on topic in the future...

But thank you for your input....

I am going on holiday for a week..

Hope all goes well with you...

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Feb 2, 2019 23:30:22   #
Sicilianthing
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I do hope we can stay on topic in the future...

But thank you for your input....

I am going on holiday for a week..

Hope all goes well with you...


>>>

Well I am on topic about defining the scope of what you guys call anti this or anti that...
I’ve explained my definitions but I will continue if you like.

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Feb 3, 2019 07:14:48   #
never out of the woods
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Background:

Earlier today I was eating lunch with two friends of mine, a Muslim man and a Hindu girl from India (no idea which part), and we were discussing how Hindus and Muslims interact in their country....

While we were conversing a young man from Russia (Jewish, from Moscow, studying logistics in the university that I work for) came into the coffee shop... He had just returned from a brief trip to Indonesia (visiting an internet friend of all things... Scary how stupid young people are) and came over to say hello..

Hearing me joke about him visiting the largest Muslim population country in the world and the dangers involved (he claimed to have had an excellent time... the friend really was a young woman ) my Muslim friend asked him about Islamaphobia in Russia... This then continued on to a discussion on anti-semitism in their respective countries... Both made some interesting claims and it became a rather provocative discussion...

After a while I had to leave... But the conversation has been in my mind all evening..


So...
For my "Definitions" post this week I would like to invite the members of the OPP to give their personal definitions of the terms 'anti-semitism' and 'islamaphobia'...
I would further encourage members to define what indications there would be that an individual was either 'anti-semitic' or 'islamaphobic'...

My thanks in advance to all the members who take the time to share their understanding...

Background: br br Earlier today I was eating lunc... (show quote)


To put it as simply as possible, anti-semitism is hatred, based soley on the fact that a person is Jewish, one of God's chosen. Islamaphobia, note the phobia, which means fear, it is a fear and loathing of muslims based on their ideology, behavoir and hatred for anyone not Islamic, especially Jews. I am islamaphobic and am justified in being so, based on the barbarism they display. God Bless Israel!

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Feb 3, 2019 08:17:13   #
never out of the woods
 
Pennylynn wrote:
For what purpose? You will get one of three responses; people will respond with the politically correct response, they will provide the response they believe you want (depending on your relationship), or you will get the 'Devil's Advocate' who will provide the opposite of what they believe your or other OPP responders believe.

Why don't you start this off with your 'personal' definition and how you arrived to your view?


You forgot replies based on a Biblcal perspective as some believe, myself included the only unsullied source of t***h. We could debate for years, displaying our wisdom and learning. God's t***h remains absolute and is simply stated.

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Feb 3, 2019 13:45:34   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Perhaps you are more anti-Israelism than suffering from Judeophobia..and we have gone over this many times... I only have your comments to go by, only you know what is in your head and heart.



"Perhaps you are more anti-Israelism than suffering from Judeophobia..and we have gone over this many times... I only have your comments to go by, only you know what is in your head and heart." - Pennylynn

Well PennyLynn;
We have a history of going in circles many times, as I have had to re-correct your smears, half t***hs and outright lies. Those exchanges were saved, to put on the record, in order that I not have to waste a lot of time re-refuting your claims.
I do this for those standing on the side, with an interest, but staying quiet.
In my mind; there are two very important things in life
1) Finding out the t***h, The t***h is the reality we have to live with.
2) Realizing this life is short, and eternity is a very long time. So that is a t***h I find very important. I attempt to be on the “good” side, coming from a Christian perspective. There will be accountability.
We are discussing The Real Owners of the Federal Reserve on this thread that I started, because it is of huge importance to the survival of America as a free Republic. This subject has been swept under the rug by the PTB, MSM, Public Education, and both political parties.

Earlier;
PennyLynn thought she would come here and do her usual thing. Paint me and my sources as “Jew h**ers”, just because the core of the Banking Cabal are “Jews”. As covered in detail many times before; the banking families ( Rosthchilds, Rochefellers, Goldmans, Warburgs, etc.) are neither Judah or Hebrews. They are impostors that use the cover/smear of anti-Semitism, when they are challenged.
By their works they identify themselves.

Pennylynn's contributions on this thread: My comments in ()

Although the author of this thread is against "those evil Jews who own the banks" and submits volumes on who owns America, I have yet to see a solution. (The constitution for starters)

Problems are so easy to point out.... solutions require one to come up with an alternative. My Papa (the Rabbi) taught me, if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem.
*******
Okay,, so rich people own the Fed..... WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL as an alternative?
(The Constitution for starters; article 1 Section 8)

Here is a thought for you, if you took all the money in the world and gave each person an equal share, we’d each get about $14,000. Sound good to you?
(Better than perpetual interest to the banksters)

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Feb 3, 2019 14:18:37   #
Sicilianthing
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Perhaps you are more anti-Israelism than suffering from Judeophobia..and we have gone over this many times... I only have your comments to go by, only you know what is in your head and heart." - Pennylynn

Well PennyLynn;
We have a history of going in circles many times, as I have had to re-correct your smears, half t***hs and outright lies. Those exchanges were saved, to put on the record, in order that I not have to waste a lot of time re-refuting your claims.
I do this for those standing on the side, with an interest, but staying quiet.
In my mind; there are two very important things in life
1) Finding out the t***h, The t***h is the reality we have to live with.
2) Realizing this life is short, and eternity is a very long time. So that is a t***h I find very important. I attempt to be on the “good” side, coming from a Christian perspective. There will be accountability.
We are discussing The Real Owners of the Federal Reserve on this thread that I started, because it is of huge importance to the survival of America as a free Republic. This subject has been swept under the rug by the PTB, MSM, Public Education, and both political parties.

Earlier;
PennyLynn thought she would come here and do her usual thing. Paint me and my sources as “Jew h**ers”, just because the core of the Banking Cabal are “Jews”. As covered in detail many times before; the banking families ( Rosthchilds, Rochefellers, Goldmans, Warburgs, etc.) are neither Judah or Hebrews. They are impostors that use the cover/smear of anti-Semitism, when they are challenged.
By their works they identify themselves.

Pennylynn's contributions on this thread: My comments in ()

Although the author of this thread is against "those evil Jews who own the banks" and submits volumes on who owns America, I have yet to see a solution. (The constitution for starters)

Problems are so easy to point out.... solutions require one to come up with an alternative. My Papa (the Rabbi) taught me, if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem.
*******
Okay,, so rich people own the Fed..... WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL as an alternative?
(The Constitution for starters; article 1 Section 8)

Here is a thought for you, if you took all the money in the world and gave each person an equal share, we’d each get about $14,000. Sound good to you?
(Better than perpetual interest to the banksters)
"Perhaps you are more anti-Israelism than suf... (show quote)


>>>

Insert AIPAC here !

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