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beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W

Preachfuzz wrote:

T***h was what I was talking about. As in what rea... (show quote)

You have to excuse Rumi....our wannabe philosopher.... i get whay you say... no t***h, no justice.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

Preachfuzz wrote:

I am a lover of real T***H. Not the generic, ever changing brand of information labeled t***h, that has nothing to do with what actually happened, but the kind of t***h that accurately describes the essence of the event. This my friends is the social media that is on the endangered species list today.

Men and women of ill will have been poaching this disappearing animal in record nimbers for the last 80 years. Since the issuing of the Humanist Manifesto in 1933, the academic professionals of America's institutions of higher learning were told that that it was okay to lie and not feel guilty about violating one of nature's laws that keeps society civil.

If our constitutional rights are deemed to be inalienable, that is God given, then no one should be able to take them away from us if the God of nature issued them to us. Then along comes a word poacher who reminds us of the serpant in the Garden of Eden, that shouts to us, Hath God really said that you have a right to expect men and women to speak the t***h?" For some strange reason I do expect everyone to tell the t***h. But serving as a cop the past 25 years I know that a t***hful person is a rare bird indeed.

Our Fonnders loved t***h because they knew what it was like to live under the kind of tyranny that defined t***h for everyone and forced them to accept the ever changing defination.

The Humanist Manifesto of 1933 basically said the the God of nature the Constiutional Framers invoked was not needed any longer because He was out of step with post modern man. So now the Humanists (atheistic socialists) free from the laws of Nature's God slaughtered the t***h with a weapon they borrowed from the serpant in the Garden of Eden. It was called a Lie.

Since t***h is what makes us act like respectable and civil human beings, we embrace it and live by its principles. We do so to make our free society a place where it's free citizens can practice life, liberty , and the pursuit of happiness, all made possible because of the abundance of t***h in our midst. But something has changed. No longer can the average person be trusted to tell the t***h, because they were taught that Nature's God is dead and they don't have to live by those restrictive, out dated rules.

Embracing the t***h and always telling the t***h is a sign of a good heart. T***h makes us trustable while everyone else is lying. But t***h is not user friendly until you align yourself with it. This is what the word poachers of our day do not want to do. It makes them accountable to tell what actually happened, so they slaughter the t***h with another bullet from the gun of lies. :-(

I am a lover of real T***H. Not the generic, ever ... (show quote)

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Peachfuzz,
You said, "If our constitutional rights are deemed to be inalienable, that is God given, then no one should be able to take them away from us...."

The word, "inalienable" does not mean, "God given." Never has. Never will.

"Inalienable," means: : incapable of being alienated, surrendered, or t***sferred <inalienable rights> This is from the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

While I'm not a proponent of "humanism," secular or religious, I would ask you to be less nebulous, and more specific, by noting specific examples of how humanism has changed the t***h as you define it.

From the AmericanHumanist.org website, the following are their 11 basic ideas.

"It is easy to summarize the basic ideas held in common by both Religious and Secular Humanists. These ideas are as follows:

"1-Humanism is one of those philosophies for people who think for themselves. There is no area of thought that a Humanist is afraid to challenge and explore.

"2-Humanism is a philosophy focused upon human means for comprehending reality. Humanists make no claims to possess or have access to supposed transcendent knowledge.

"3-Humanism is a philosophy of reason and science in the pursuit of knowledge. Therefore, when it comes to the question of the most valid means for acquiring knowledge of the world, Humanists reject arbitrary faith, authority, revelation, and altered states of consciousness.

"4-Humanism is a philosophy of imagination. Humanists recognize that intuitive feelings, hunches, speculation, flashes of inspiration, emotion, altered states of consciousness, and even religious experience, while not valid means to acquire knowledge, remain useful sources of ideas that can lead us to new ways of looking at the world. These ideas, after they have been assessed rationally for their usefulness, can then be put to work, often as alternative approaches for solving problems.

"5-Humanism is a philosophy for the here and now. Humanists regard human values as making sense only in the context of human life rather than in the promise of a supposed life after death.

"6-Humanism is a philosophy of compassion. Humanist ethics is solely concerned with meeting human needs and answering human problems-for both the individual and society-and dev**es no attention to the satisfaction of the desires of supposed theological entities.

"7-Humanism is a realistic philosophy. Humanists recognize the existence of moral dilemmas and the need for careful consideration of immediate and future consequences in moral decision making.

"8-Humanism is in tune with the science of today. Humanists therefore recognize that we live in a natural universe of great size and age, that we evolved on this planet over a long period of time, that there is no compelling evidence for a separable "soul," and that human beings have certain built-in needs that effectively form the basis for any human-oriented value system.

"9-Humanism is in tune with today's enlightened social thought. Humanists are committed to civil liberties, human rights, church-state separation, the extension of participatory democracy not only in government but in the workplace and education, an expansion of global consciousness and exchange of products and ideas internationally, and an open-ended approach to solving social problems, an approach that allows for the testing of new alternatives.

"10-Humanism is in tune with new technological developments. Humanists are willing to take part in emerging scientific and technological discoveries in order to exercise their moral influence on these revolutions as they come about, especially in the interest of protecting the environment.

"11-Humanism is, in sum, a philosophy for those in love with life. Humanists take responsibility for their own lives and relish the adventure of being part of new discoveries, seeking new knowledge, exploring new options. Instead of finding solace in prefabricated answers to the great questions of life, humanists enjoy the open-endedness of a quest and the freedom of discovery that this entails."

From these "ideas," I can see where ideas 9, 10, & 11 sound like they came right out of the Republican Party Platform, the Tea Party Platform and the Libertarian Party Platform.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Hemiman wrote:

I don't know how anyone can argue with this post, but some will.

Some of us, but fewer than previous generations were taught our God is watching us, we had a respectful fear of the Lord and any punishment, knowing lies, or other acts were inescapable. As we further matured, some of us learned from our father, a mans word is his bond, a handshake was as solid as a contract. As the progressives/liberals have grown in numbers, and replaced the living God, removing God from anything and everywhere, making Christians to be evil, the t***h has been rewritten, thus no guilt from the sin of a lie.

J Anthony Loc: Connecticut

jack sequim wa wrote:

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The t***h will set us free. The problem is no one can agree on what the t***h is anymore, even when it's staring us in the face. And if any of you actually believe that only those who identify as progressive or liberal lie, then you're certainly not being t***hful!

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

J Anthony wrote:

The t***h will set us free. The problem is no one can agree on what the t***h is anymore, even when it's staring us in the face. And if any of you actually believe that only those who identify as progressive or liberal lie, then you're certainly not being t***hful!

I personally believe t***h has lost it's way, in the generations as I stated. In my personal experience here on OPP, when debating with progressives and liberals, produce facts and documentation, my opponent, will refuse to accept facts and documentation, is remiss in providing any thing beyond their opinion, grow angry with insults while holding fast to there own argument. That is an individual practicing the unt***h. My personal experience is limited to political, but if one is willing to be unt***hful in politics, why not anything or everything else. I'm not so Nieve to also know conservative politicians lie. Keeping in step, those here on this site not being politicians, so I would expect more.

Asiseeit

Again, excellent. I look forward to your next topic and thread. Well done, young man/woman!

Preachfuzz wrote:

T***h was what I was talking about. As in what rea... (show quote)

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Preachfuzz wrote:

I am a lover of real T***H. Not the generic, ever changing brand of information labeled t***h, that has nothing to do with what actually happened, but the kind of t***h that accurately describes the essence of the event. This my friends is the social media that is on the endangered species list today.

Men and women of ill will have been poaching this disappearing animal in record nimbers for the last 80 years. Since the issuing of the Humanist Manifesto in 1933, the academic professionals of America's institutions of higher learning were told that that it was okay to lie and not feel guilty about violating one of nature's laws that keeps society civil.

If our constitutional rights are deemed to be inalienable, that is God given, then no one should be able to take them away from us if the God of nature issued them to us. Then along comes a word poacher who reminds us of the serpant in the Garden of Eden, that shouts to us, Hath God really said that you have a right to expect men and women to speak the t***h?" For some strange reason I do expect everyone to tell the t***h. But serving as a cop the past 25 years I know that a t***hful person is a rare bird indeed.

Our Fonnders loved t***h because they knew what it was like to live under the kind of tyranny that defined t***h for everyone and forced them to accept the ever changing defination.

The Humanist Manifesto of 1933 basically said the the God of nature the Constiutional Framers invoked was not needed any longer because He was out of step with post modern man. So now the Humanists (atheistic socialists) free from the laws of Nature's God slaughtered the t***h with a weapon they borrowed from the serpant in the Garden of Eden. It was called a Lie.

Since t***h is what makes us act like respectable and civil human beings, we embrace it and live by its principles. We do so to make our free society a place where it's free citizens can practice life, liberty , and the pursuit of happiness, all made possible because of the abundance of t***h in our midst. But something has changed. No longer can the average person be trusted to tell the t***h, because they were taught that Nature's God is dead and they don't have to live by those restrictive, out dated rules.

Embracing the t***h and always telling the t***h is a sign of a good heart. T***h makes us trustable while everyone else is lying. But t***h is not user friendly until you align yourself with it. This is what the word poachers of our day do not want to do. It makes them accountable to tell what actually happened, so they slaughter the t***h with another bullet from the gun of lies. :-(

I am a lover of real T***H. Not the generic, ever ... (show quote)

Welcome to the site. Your carefully thought out post should bring intellect and civility to the conversation. Great to have you here. I certainly will be following your posts as the logic is something we should all pay attention to.

She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia

I feel lately I never get the t***h from my government. All things are subject to interpretation. Which ever interpretation prevails at any given time is a function of power and not t***h.

I was taught as a child to be honest with all people even myself. Never lie even if lying is easier. My word is my bond. I must keep all promises and act on my convictions. My Dad always told us if your word in no good you are no good. Don't give your word lightly.

I'm human. I don't always live up to these things but I try.

bahmer

Preachfuzz wrote:

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I believe that this is all true and we are as a country in the last paragraph and heading in a downward spiral. If we cannot correct this we will destroy ourselves.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

jack sequim wa wrote:

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Can you believe that there are some Christians who have the audacity to believe that while fear and respect of God isn't necessarily a bad thing, that The Lord God is a loving God. One to whom we can go to with our problems. One that loves us as His children. One to whom we can address as, "Abba-Father." One that, as the Christ on Earth, commanded us to, "Love The Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul. And to love your neighbor as yourself." (Mark 12:30-31).

By the constant berating we give one another on this site, and others like it, and all over the news, how well are we Christians following this, "The greatest commandment?"

ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa

Preachfuzz wrote:

I am a lover of real T***H. Not the generic, ever changing brand of information labeled t***h, that has nothing to do with what actually happened, but the kind of t***h that accurately describes the essence of the event. This my friends is the social media that is on the endangered species list today.

Men and women of ill will have been poaching this disappearing animal in record nimbers for the last 80 years. Since the issuing of the Humanist Manifesto in 1933, the academic professionals of America's institutions of higher learning were told that that it was okay to lie and not feel guilty about violating one of nature's laws that keeps society civil.

If our constitutional rights are deemed to be inalienable, that is God given, then no one should be able to take them away from us if the God of nature issued them to us. Then along comes a word poacher who reminds us of the serpant in the Garden of Eden, that shouts to us, Hath God really said that you have a right to expect men and women to speak the t***h?" For some strange reason I do expect everyone to tell the t***h. But serving as a cop the past 25 years I know that a t***hful person is a rare bird indeed.

Our Fonnders loved t***h because they knew what it was like to live under the kind of tyranny that defined t***h for everyone and forced them to accept the ever changing defination.

The Humanist Manifesto of 1933 basically said the the God of nature the Constiutional Framers invoked was not needed any longer because He was out of step with post modern man. So now the Humanists (atheistic socialists) free from the laws of Nature's God slaughtered the t***h with a weapon they borrowed from the serpant in the Garden of Eden. It was called a Lie.

Since t***h is what makes us act like respectable and civil human beings, we embrace it and live by its principles. We do so to make our free society a place where it's free citizens can practice life, liberty , and the pursuit of happiness, all made possible because of the abundance of t***h in our midst. But something has changed. No longer can the average person be trusted to tell the t***h, because they were taught that Nature's God is dead and they don't have to live by those restrictive, out dated rules.

Embracing the t***h and always telling the t***h is a sign of a good heart. T***h makes us trustable while everyone else is lying. But t***h is not user friendly until you align yourself with it. This is what the word poachers of our day do not want to do. It makes them accountable to tell what actually happened, so they slaughter the t***h with another bullet from the gun of lies. :-(

I am a lover of real T***H. Not the generic, ever ... (show quote)

Peachfuzz: T***h has no agenda! :thumbup: :thumbup:

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

alabuck wrote:

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Thanks, for the definition of humanist. What are you?

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

alabuck wrote:

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Love one another as I have love you, in doing so you will have fulfill all my commandments

Your statement completes mine,
God bless

grace scott

Preachfuzz wrote:

T***h was what I was talking about. As in what rea... (show quote)

As a cop (no disrespect, my son is named after one), you are familiar with this situation. Traffic accident. 10 witnesses. 10 different stories. Who is telling the t***h?

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

Augustus Greatorex wrote:

Thanks, for the definition of humanist. What are you?

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As I said in my post, "I'm not a proponent of humanism," especially as defined by the "AmericanHumanist.org" post.