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Jan 29, 2019 21:41:20   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
permafrost wrote:
Mr nite,,, you do have some issues..I am not going to try and address many of them..

I will say that to a degree I am upset by some of them also..

Taxes... one of my most acute complaints... I just before Christmas had to pay some extra tax and interest for 2014... Not a great deal but it truly PO for weeks..

but do you think for a second that the answer to that is any program of spending and cuts that creates a huge increase in our national dept? that has to be paid, at least the interest, which is on the way up..

So near 2 trillion was added in two years by a man who pledged to bring it down..

I also do not see the migration of people to America and in Europe to be the same.. Mid easterners fleeing war and destruction may well bring in radicals in the relative short distance to France, Italy other nations
For the United States most of the current movement is from crime dominated countries without and economy remaining for those who wish to work.. the Caravans have been primarily families, women, kids and men who may be husbands or not.. I have not seen that the majority are men. even while males may want to be seen in photos and videos more then women and their kids. I do not think we see the radicals that slip into Europe..

It is a long and costly road for any terrorist to find a way to our nation via central america and mexico..

in like manner, we would not agree on much you post but some of that is a matter of degree.. I do not see you as all wrong..
Mr nite,,, you do have some issues..I am not going... (show quote)




What you failed to mention was it was Obama and Hillary is Arab Spring that led to the Muslim migration there in the Middle East cuz remember we pulled out of Iraq then he backed Morsi in Egypt and k**led Muammar Gaddafi so I don't know what you're talkin about that was totally related to everything that Obama and Hillary were doing at that time everything can be Coral eyes from that exact moment to win the migration in Europe happen because of the Arab Spring it was totally because of it and yet you want these people at the helm again so they can run is further into the ground I don't think so sorry that's not Sound Logic he's already been down that road and it bit Us in the ass and you know it did so why are we going to hand the keys over to a craven bunch of lunatics who only there for power I don't give a damn about the Americans at all and all they care about is their old i******s their protected class don't give two craps about Americans and if you listen to the way they talk you would figure that out already when they're already calling for the abolition of ice free Medicare for all preschool for all yes I've heard this before in the Soviet Union and N**i Germany and I don't want no part of it and once you can figure out and tell me how everybody is going to pay for all this free stuff then I will listen to you but until you got an answer on that I'm not going to because you don't have an answer for that because you know what's going to happen they're going to raise taxes like they always do cuz they can't help but try to take everybody's money that's all they do they don't want you to have any money but they want to keep it all for themselves I'm sorry but them days are over with those days are over with November 9th 2016 no more gravy train for these folks what we need is a bunch of term limits so we don't keep seeing the same sorry-ass people

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Jan 30, 2019 07:57:22   #
zombinis3 Loc: Southwest
 
77Reaganite wrote:
I'm not talking about you I'm talking about the leaders that you v**ed for they're the ones that are calling for open borders and no walls just because you think the wall is stupid now you tell me that is your wall keep you safe at night when you sleep does it keep people from entering your home think about that for all these people that I say that don't want a wall well then let these i*****l a***ns come and live at your place but you're not going to do that you want to sit there and virtue signal to everybody about look at me look how open and t***sparent I am look how diverse I am in forced diversity always k**ls look what it's doing to Europe you know what the Muslim migration yeah these people are forced upon the European people and the European people are getting k**led because of it why because a lot of these people coming in to Europe are military-aged men very few women and children are in these groups so what do you think's going to happen what do you think about the g***ming of young children in London were there being g********* at the age of 9 by Muslim men yeah I say that to a forced measure by the EU nobody likes forced diversity and I'm going to tell you right now collectivism k**ls it always does look what happened in N**i Germany look what happened in Soviet Russia all of it collectivism and it k**ls people okay more people have died under socialism and c*******m than any other form of governance known to man okay socialism has never worked anywhere where it's been tried just take a look at Venezuela and that's all you need to know and you really want to bring that here I don't think so Over My Dead Body we're not here to make ya'll happy so y'all can get a new v****g block cuz that's really what it the Democratic party is doing is using the i******s as a new v****g block so they can stay in power because it's all about power to them they don't care anything about their constituents they don't care anything about you they don't care anything about the minorities they don't care about nothing you don't believe me just go to a few of these s**tholes states Illinois California Oregon Washington all of the Northeast and all of New England every last one of them s**tholes oh yeah at least I forget Detroit take a look at Detroit that's what 60 years of democratic rule did to a city and you really want to bring that to the rest of America I got news for you it ain't happening thank God we have a damn president that wants us to have a country wants us to have borders and wants us to be a sovereign country so we're no longer under the rule of the g*******ts you need to get with the program man globalism is a k**ler it's k*****g people everyday all you got to do is just turn on your TV set and just look at all the upheaval going on in Europe cuz people are tired of 70 years of rule and people finally figuring out they no longer have a country in that their country sold them out to bureaucrats bankers and lawmakers and why do you think there's so much upheaval in Europe now is because people are rising up and saying the hell with the European Union and our elected officials want to bring that to America. I don't want no socialism of any kind yes I know we have it with Social Security but I wasn't alive to v**e for it and neither were you so I say the hell with it I don't want free health care cuz free healthcare doesn't give Healthcare to everybody I don't want free school because there is no such thing as free school I don't want any freebies from the Democratic party because that means higher taxes and you know that too that's the last thing we need right now in a recovery is higher taxes I'm sorry but we're not going to give any more money to the Democrats so they can just flounder It All Away by giving it to people that don't want to work yeah I'm saying it 85% of the people that are on welfare and food stamps or game in the system we all know that the poverty level in this country is 15% so that means only 15% of the population should get welfare of some sort the other 85% who are on it need to stop doing drugs and go back to work and let the people who really need to be on it have it that's my take on that and it's the god honest t***h 85% of the people that are on welfare and food stamps or gaming the system the other 15% are the 15% that are falling below the poverty line and those are the people who really need it I'm tired of handing out money to Laquisha and every other American woman who wants to spread her legs and have many kids and expects us to pay for them neither you nor I made that lady spread her legs and my question to where are the fathers oh I forgot what year was 1994 Super Predators bill guarantee you the father is in jail if he's not in jail for failing to pay for child support which there seems to be a lot of that going on these days between men and women sickens me to watch how kids live today when you got parents that don't even care about their kids but yet we have a group of people that stand up everyday and say they care for the American people but when you give them what they want they leave you with nothing they leave your city's boarded-up your jobs have been all sucked out and going to other states and you have what we have in the s******* States today mentioned
I'm not talking about you I'm talking about the le... (show quote)

Social Security is not socialism you payed into with the FICA TAX,

The Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) is the federal law that requires you to withhold three separate taxes from the wages you pay your employees. FICA is comprised of the following taxes:

6.2 percent Social Security tax;
1.45 percent Medicare tax (the “regular” Medicare tax); and
Since 2013, a 0.9 percent Medicare surtax when the employee earns over $200,000.
You must withhold these amounts from an employee's wages.

The law also requires you to pay the employer's portion of two of these taxes:

6.2 percent Social Security tax
1.45 percent Medicare tax (the “regular” Medicare tax).
As you can see, the employer’s portion for the Social security tax and the regular Medicare tax is the same amount that you're required to withhold from your employees' wages. (Different rules apply for employees who receive tips.) There is no employer portion for the 0.9 percent Medicare surtax on high-earning employees.
Now an example of socialism are the services provided by the govenment are fire , police, schools and maintained infrastructure , which everyone knows has really not been kept up. Unless of course if you were able to give dontations to the right people. We the people allowed the money into govenment by not keeping those in office accountable.

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Jan 30, 2019 09:47:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
77Reaganite wrote:
What you failed to mention was it was Obama and Hillary is Arab Spring that led to the Muslim migration there in the Middle East cuz remember we pulled out of Iraq then he backed Morsi in Egypt and k**led Muammar Gaddafi so I don't know what you're talkin about that was totally related to everything that Obama and Hillary were doing at that time everything can be Coral eyes from that exact moment to win the migration in Europe happen because of the Arab Spring it was totally because of it and yet you want these people at the helm again so they can run is further into the ground I don't think so sorry that's not Sound Logic he's already been down that road and it bit Us in the ass and you know it did so why are we going to hand the keys over to a craven bunch of lunatics who only there for power I don't give a damn about the Americans at all and all they care about is their old i******s their protected class don't give two craps about Americans and if you listen to the way they talk you would figure that out already when they're already calling for the abolition of ice free Medicare for all preschool for all yes I've heard this before in the Soviet Union and N**i Germany and I don't want no part of it and once you can figure out and tell me how everybody is going to pay for all this free stuff then I will listen to you but until you got an answer on that I'm not going to because you don't have an answer for that because you know what's going to happen they're going to raise taxes like they always do cuz they can't help but try to take everybody's money that's all they do they don't want you to have any money but they want to keep it all for themselves I'm sorry but them days are over with those days are over with November 9th 2016 no more gravy train for these folks what we need is a bunch of term limits so we don't keep seeing the same sorry-ass people
What you failed to mention was it was Obama and Hi... (show quote)




Zombie has some good replys to your post..

I would be happy if you would use some commas and sentence structure, it would be easy to follow your opinion if you did..

the time line for withdrawal from Iraq, was set up by Bush Jr, Obama was persuaded to stay, but Iraq would not allow the US to have legal control over our own troops.. so we left as had been agreed.

Libya is a confused mess for sure.. those who k**led Qaddafi, were not regular troops of any type, least of all the US..

the wars that disrupt the ME started well before Arab Spring was created..

If we are to have a govt, we also have to pay for it. No matter how that may disgust most of us..

If the people got to v**e on term limits, it would pass in a heart beat..

But that will never happen..

If Medicare for all was put together correctly, and ended the insurance control, it would be cheaper by far then the poor system we now use..

the same can be said of all those thing you mention.. they can only be done if done right and managed as well.. Then, most of them are worthwhile ideas..



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Jan 30, 2019 11:50:16   #
Kazudy
 
Gatsby wrote:
Read Article I. Sections 7 & 8, before responding!

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution-transcript


I can't tell you how but I can tell you why. He accepted Nancy's and Chucky's "dare".

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