As a Constitutional Conservative, but not a Republican these are the lessons I take away from the recent partial government shutdown.

1. President Trump will be seen as having caved to the Democrats on the SOTU address and the agreement to reopen the shutdown portions of government. His die hard supporters will try to spin it that he is being the bigger person, but the general public will not see it that way. They will see that he could have made this same deal weeks ago.

2. The Democrats will be embolden by this and will think that than can hold out and get what they want. In the agreement to end the shutdown the Democrats got everything they wanted and Trump got nothing but empty promises.

3. The Democrats care more about winning and defeating Trump than they do the American people.

4. The Democrats are united and the Republicans are not.

5. Many who v**ed for Trump in the 2016 e******n did so not because of support for him but because they opposed Hillary so much. These now have far less confidence in him that he will not cave in the future and will deliver on his promises.

6. The wall is far less likely to be built. The Democrats will offer some token funding to border security, but it will come at the price of keeping i******s already here permanently. They are seen as future Democrat v**ers.

7. "Anchor babies" are here to stay.

8. Any deal made in the next three weeks will heavily favor Democrats. Democrats do not fear another shutdown because with the help of the MSM and Trump's failure to make his case with the American people they know he will get the blame for another shutdown.

9. Democrats have stronger and bolder leadership in Congress than do Republicans.

10. Democrats consistently win the PR campaign with the public. This is due to the liberal MSM and the fact that there are conservative pundits who will criticize Republicans, but liberal pundits do not criticize Democrats. It is also because the GOP does not present a bold front with a united message.

As a Constitutional Conservative, but not a Republican these are the lessons I take away from the recent partial government shutdown.

1. President Trump will be seen as having caved to the Democrats on the SOTU address and the agreement to reopen the shutdown portions of government. His die hard supporters will try to spin it that he is being the bigger person, but the general public will not see it that way. They will see that he could have made this same deal weeks ago.

2. The Democrats will be embolden by this and will think that than can hold out and get what they want. In the agreement to end the shutdown the Democrats got everything they wanted and Trump got nothing but empty promises.

3. The Democrats care more about winning and defeating Trump than they do the American people.

4. The Democrats are united and the Republicans are not.

5. Many who v**ed for Trump in the 2016 e******n did so not because of support for him but because they opposed Hillary so much. These now have far less confidence in him that he will not cave in the future and will deliver on his promises.

6. The wall is far less likely to be built. The Democrats will offer some token funding to border security, but it will come at the price of keeping i******s already here permanently. They are seen as future Democrat v**ers.

7. "Anchor babies" are here to stay.

8. Any deal made in the next three weeks will heavily favor Democrats. Democrats do not fear another shutdown because with the help of the MSM and Trump's failure to make his case with the American people they know he will get the blame for another shutdown.

9. Democrats have stronger and bolder leadership in Congress than do Republicans.

10. Democrats consistently win the PR campaign with the public. This is due to the liberal MSM and the fact that there are conservative pundits who will criticize Republicans, but liberal pundits do not criticize Democrats. It is also because the GOP does not present a bold front with a united message.

Maybe that is the case near you. But it is NOT universal throughout the country. Especially not kids growing up in a rural environment or anywhere conservative work ethics are the norm. Especially in areas where there is enforcement of not hiring i******s who work for below minimum and for no benefits. Employers who want to avoid the US minimal standards in their quest for extra profit; also do not hire LEGAL immigrants or those here on temporary work permits, as they must be paid the same minimum as required for Americans.
https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs78c.htm

And if you want to know why conservatives are against raising the minimum wage, look at the results in states where it has been done. Small business cuts in employment, reduced hours, or even business closures which result in loss of jobs.
https://www.businessinsider.com/minimum-wage-leads-to-job-losses-2017-3

As a Constitutional Conservative, but not a Republican these are the lessons I take away from the recent partial government shutdown.

(((((((((((As a typical Trump supporter not a Constitutional conservative because I doubt you ever read the constitution and just listen to right interpretation of the constitution))))))

1. President Trump will be seen as having caved to the Democrats on the SOTU address and the agreement to reopen the shutdown portions of government. His die hard supporters will try to spin it that he is being the bigger person, but the general public will not see it that way. They will see that he could have made this same deal weeks ago.


(((((((((Yes he did cave on the SOTU because for the first time he now realizes that there are 3 Co-Equal branches of government and he doesn’t like it when someone disagrees with him. Just go back and look at the people he has fired and not only fired but denigrated there careers and when that doesn’t work he attacks there families.)))))))))))))))

2. The Democrats will be embolden by this and will think that than can hold out and get what they want. In the agreement to end the shutdown the Democrats got everything they wanted and Trump got nothing but empty promises.

((((((((( This comment is particularly disturbing because in December a clear CR to keep the government open was passed almost unanimously and coordinated with Trump. Trump supporters do not read actual legislation and maintain there ignorance to facts. Trump supporters do not want facts they listen to a pathological liar day in day out.))))))))))))))))))))))))

3. The Democrats care more about winning and defeating Trump than they do the American people.

(((((((((( this without a doubt is a stupid comment yes democrats have a specific agenda they propose legislation that lean towards helping all Americans but due to the fact that Trump supporters refuse to read legislation or even attempt to read legislation blocked by republicans from even being submitted to committees or brought to the floor for a v**e (THE IGNORANCE CONTINUES)))))))))))))))))

4. The Democrats are united and the Republicans are not.

(((((((((((((((( Yes the Democrats are United you are looking at the dimise of the Republican Party because you elected a s**m artist that has been running a crime family for 40 years. He has skirted the law for 40 years in NY now they got him, and as his polls decline and one indictment after another of members of his inner circle Republicans are beginning to abandon Trump because there getting tired of justifying his continuous flood of lies, trying to justify his manufactured crisis at the border.)))))))))))))))))

5. Many who v**ed for Trump in the 2016 e******n did so not because of support for him but because they opposed Hillary so much. These now have far less confidence in him that he will not cave in the future and will deliver on his promises.

((((((((((((100% correct Clinton was a bad campaigner she was not able to articulate what a s**m artist was by trying to take the high road the only way you beat Trump is to get down in the dirt with him and match him lie for lie. As being exposed now with all these indictments (THAT ARE NOT A H**X) they are real and exposing the corruption that went on during Trumps campaign and continue today during his presidency. When Trump shutdown the government over a campaign promise of Mexico paying for the wall and his constant denial that he never said he would build a Great Wall 2000 miles long to a wall of steel slats and finally agree a virtual wall as proposed by democrats. The American people now who actually read legislation and agree with CBP agency on how best protect our borders now realize that democrats are not for open borders. Democrats want mordern technology, they are for barriers in the melting points along the high profile areas, they are in favor of using modern technology throughout the 2000 miles of border. This shutdown by Trump exposed the constant talking point used by republicans that democrats are for open borders. Now they understand and that’s why Trumps polls are sinking.))))))))))))))))))))

6. The wall is far less likely to be built. The Democrats will offer some token funding to border security, but it will come at the price of keeping i******s already here permanently. They are seen as future Democrat v**ers.

(((((((((((((((((((( THE BARRIERS WILL BE BUILT IN THE MELTING POINTS ALONG THE BORDER AS PROPOSED IN THE THE DECEMBER LEGISLATION, THE VIRTUAL WALL WILL BE BUILT UTILIZING MORDERN TECHNOLOGY. THE TASK FORCE WILL BE PROPERLY FUNDED FOR STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT ALONG WITH MEXICO LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO SHARE INTEL ON BORDER CRIME. TRAINING NEW AGENTS INCREASING OUR CORTS TO LITIGATE. So if you listened to the Trump speech of opening the government he now approves everything in that December legislation passed unanimously and he tried to make it sound like his idea. He even started using the the term virtual wall. (SO WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SEE IS TRUMP SHUT THE THE GOVERNMENT DOWN AND LISTENED TO HIM FOR 35 DAYS SAY HE WILL KEEP THE GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN UNTIL HE GETS HIS WALL. THEY LISTENED TO HIM SAYING MEXICO WILL PAY FOR HIS 30 Ft High concrete structure DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. So Trump held the government employees hostage for 35 days and now the American people understand that he now approves the December legislation that would have kept the government open. So this is a major cave in by Trump. It’s a shame to watch the dimise of the GOP.))))))))))))))))

7. "Anchor babies" are here to stay.

((((((((((((((Live with it you being a Constitutional conservative these kids were born in this country they are raised in this country, they were educated in this country they are as American as you and I. If you don’t like what’s written in the constitution change it. Same thing with DACA address the DACA issue these people were brought here illegally they grew up in this country they have served in our military, they own businesses. So what the hell is wrong with giving these people a path to citizenship as spelled out in the Obama DACA. (HAVING A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA) (COMMITTED NO CRIMES) (SERVED IN OUR MILITARY) ( EMPLOYED AND PROOF OF PAYING THERE TAXES) the condition are all there. These people were brought here as kids they know nothing but the American way. How can you take these people round them up and drive them to the border and drop them off. But that’s the Trump supporter way no empathy.))))))))))))))))



8. Any deal made in the next three weeks will heavily favor Democrats. Democrats do not fear another shutdown because with the help of the MSM and Trump's failure to make his case with the American people they know he will get the blame for another shutdown.

((((((((((((((It’s always the MSM media and not the constant flow of lies that come from the right wing media. The republicans have done everything to discredit the free press you being a Constitutional genius maybe you need a refresher course. If a democrat attacks right wing media you explode and whine about free press, but if another media outlet reports on the constant lies by Trump you explode and that my friend is hypocracy at its highest level. Try reading legislation to get the facts and determine what media outlet is actually lying. Try reading Trumps Executive Orders try reading Obama Executive Orders. Try reading CBO and GAO reports, try reading the stats put out by Honeland security, Department of immigration, labor department reports. Then draw your own conclusions. Every politicians lies or misinformation but what we see today is a Republican Party built on constant lies.))))))))))))))))

9. Democrats have stronger and bolder leadership in Congress than do Republicans.

(((((((( I agree but it’s not hard to come to that conclusion. After a December bill passed totally on a bi-partisan v**e and rejected by Trump and comes right out in front of the American people and says I will take full responsibility for shutting down the government and not blame democrats unless I get what I want. (FROM WHERE I STAND THE LETTER I IS NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION ITS WE MEANING THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE) the will of the people was clear during the mid terms when close to 10 million more v**es were cast for democrats. When that December legislation was passed by the House and senate. Then 5 separate pieces of legislation passed in the house and Mitch McConnell blocked it from even being v**ed on in the senate. This shutdown woke up the silent majority in this country when our government was shut down. People started to pay attention and seeing that the Republican Party was nothing but a protectionist party to hide the constant flow of lies out of a criminal enterprise called the Trump White House.))))))))))))))))))

10. Democrats consistently win the PR campaign with the public. This is due to the liberal MSM and the fact that there are conservative pundits who will criticize Republicans, but liberal pundits do not criticize Democrats. It is also because the GOP does not present a bold front with a united message.