permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Carla, Suck an egg... you think it is so funny to post BS that you do not even believe.. think we on the left run around because of the silly crap you post..

You are no better then the i***t divine t***h as she foolishly bills herself..

But now I am on this stupid errand so gotta leave something..

https://www.ecowatch.com/trumps-wall-wont-work-2625987846.html?utm_campaign=RebelMouse&socialux=facebook&share_id=4312888&utm_medium=social&utm_content=EcoWatch&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2OysXXOeRhDk0mB856lhr9C7tkt1KeJp4ExD

A Literal Wall Expert Explains Why Trump's Wall Won't Even Work
President Donald Trump's unrelenting bid to build a wall on the southern border has not only held up much of the federal government for 24 days and counting, its construction could be devastating to the environment and local wildlife.

Now, in a epic Facebook post shared more than 100,000 times, an actual structural and civil engineer explained why the project is also "monumental waste of money" and will be ineffective if it ever goes up.

"Structurally and civil engineering-wise, the border wall is not a feasible project," wrote Amy Patrick, a structural and civil engineer from Houston, Texas.

"Trump did not hire engineers to design the thing. He solicited bids from contractors, not engineers. This means it's not been designed by professionals. It's a disaster of numerous types waiting to happen," she added.

Patrick teaches structural analysis and design at the University of Houston and says she has been deposed as an expert witness in matters regarding proper wall construction, making her a literal "court-accepted expert on walls."

Trump has demanded Congress hand over more than $5 billion to fund the unpopular wall, and even sought $25 billion for it at one point.

But when all is said and done, Patrick estimates the wall could be as "higher than $50 billion" and won't even be finished in the president's lifetime due to "rework, complexities beyond the prototype design, factors to prevent flood and environmental hazard creation, engineering redesign" and other complications.

The structural forensicist is certain that the project "WILL go wrong" and noted that others in her field might not even want to work on the controversial project, as "a large quotient of us are immigrants, and besides, we can't afford to bid on jobs that are this political."

"We're small firms, and we're already busy, and we don't gamble our reputations on political footballs. So you'd end up with a revolving door of contractors making a giant, uncoordinated muddle of things, and it'd generally be a mess. Good money after bad. The GAO agrees with me," she said.

Further, she argues that the wall "won't be effective" and could, right now, easily scale it with a 32-foot extension ladder and a cheap custom saddle.

"Another thing: we are not far from the day where inexpensive drones will be able to pick up and carry someone," Patrick wrote. "This will happen in the next ten years, and it's folly to think that the coyotes who ferry people over the border won't purchase or create them. They're low enough, quiet enough, and small enough to quickly zip people over any wall we could build undetected with our current monitoring setup."

Patrick is not alone in her derision of Trump's pet project. Most v**ers remain are strongly opposed to a wall on the Mexican border, according to a Quinnipiac poll released Monday, with 55 percent saying that they reject every argument for the wall.

Opponents also worry that the wall will dissect a border tribe, degrade the natural landscape and threaten 93 endangered and threatened species, including jaguars, ocelots, Mexican gray wolves and cactus ferruginous pygmy owls, according a study from the Center for Biological Diversity.

Let's have border security, by all means, but let's be smart about it. This is not smart. It's not effective. It's NOT cheap," Patrick concluded. "The returns will be diminishing as technology advances, too. This is a ridiculous idea that will never be successfully executed and, as such, would be a monumental waste of money."

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Yeah yeah yeah....

You know the holiday break is over, right? Trump is sitting in the WH waiting alone because he has no friends. Why should the Dems save Trump's bacon? He has done nothing but belittle them and their constituents.

All he and the Republicans have to do is sign the bills to fund the closed parts of the government. Then you can dry those crocodile tears.

Where was all this concern when the shutdown began? If I remember correctly, President Trump's supporters were behind him 100%. Now listen to you.

fullspinzoo

You're delusional. I won't even comment are your bulls**t. You're more indoctrinated than those who come out of universities. Hopeless!!! more than the i***ts who can't spell or think logically. You, on the Left lie through your teeth, have no ethics, no morals, no scruples and could care less about integrity.

carlajones

Looney Liberals! Democrats passed funding for a wall in 2003- 2013! WHERE'S THE MONEY ? Pelosi had American First Responders remove i******s from her Walled mansion. Locked her door! Where's her welcome mat? Not at the front wall! Mueller delivered AMERICAN ARMED GRADE URANIUM TO RUSSIA FOR CLINTON! WHERE'S THE MONEY ? DNC, Clinton, FBI, Fusion PAID A FOREIGN SPY "ESPIONAGE AGAINST AMERICA" FOR FRAUDULENT DOSSIER Then Demanded an investigation using the Fraudulent DOSSIER Against AMERICAN CITIZENS and President! Rosenstein who's wife Legally Represented Mueller, Comey, Clinton along with Mueller Submitted the Fraudulent DOSSIER To A Grand Jury For Investigation Demanded By DNC! Then Rosenstein and Mueller Submitted The Fraudulent DOSSIER To A Federal Judge For Fisa Warrants AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS! Rosenstein stated he wanted a person in the White House To Tape President Of America and who came away stating she had tapes? AMOROSA! Rosenstein and Muller Are Investigating Under Fraud, Lies, illegal Means AGAINST AMERICAN CITIZENS and AMERICAN PRESIDENT! Call it what you want because your're a DEMONCRAP and anything Vile, Filthy, Sinister, Illegal you approve which is my point on the CRIMINALS INVESTIGATION !

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Their bill left out the money for the wall. Trump warned them. They chose to ignore the warning.

bahmer

Amen and Amen

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

perhaps you should go back to school and learn to spell Enemies a person who is actively opposed or hostile to someone or something and go and read what is wrote on the statue of LIBERTY. TRUMP HAD TWO YEARS TO GET HIS WALL .Now he shuts down parts of the Government Him and McConnell are the enemies of the shut and the federal workers not getting paid !

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Really!!??

How do you think those bill popped up on McConnell desk??

You wanted trump to get credit... well, he gets full credit for this and now you b***h about that..

He has no concern for America or the people who live in our country..

Only himself and his pathetic insecure image is all he cares about.

Until Fox news spurred him on, he may have negotiated.. now he say he never will.

that is of the mornings tweet..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Carla,,,, you may be thinking of the secure fence act of 2006... that 700 miles of fence is nearly 100% complete.. was not a wall as the trump grovelers are thinking nor is it sea to sea..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You agree with my point.. trump will not negotiate.. he like a spoiled child would rather let other people struggle then not get his way..

fullspinzoo

Mark Morgan, Border Chief during the Obama admin says "a wall is absolutely needed". the arguments against the wall are 'absurd'. So you go suck an egg. Trump walked out because Pelosi wasn't going to budge an inch. So get your facts straight. He's not going to sit there while Pelosi bloviates a bunch of bulls**t like the wall being 'immoral'. Like he said "a waste of time". Trump was willing to compromise and you know it. You leftys are all the same....you lie through your teeth. You think Pelosi or Schumer are willing to compromise. Pelosi and half the Dems are on vacay while Trump waiting for them....in the WH. No friends huh? We'll see when 2020 rolls around and Trump because he's done everything he could for "We, the people" will clean you and your i***t friends on the Left, will clean your clock. Talk about a walk in the park. You're not quite up to Kevyn's standard as "the resident c*******t" but you're damn close.https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mark-morgan-border-patrol-wall- trump/2019/01/09/id/897464/ Until the wall is built, and it will be built, I hope human traffickrs, MS-13, drug smugglers, and the rest the criminal element move into your neighborhood and I'll bet you change you 'tune' real fast.

VINODAN

You are making a lot of unfortunate accusations
If you really want to be part of a serious dialogue in this more than serious matter you really have to start thinking before you speak( or pen) - remind you of anyone

fullspinzoo

dumbest comments on OPP (except for Lonewolf who can barely spell his name) so I used to think you made a decent rebuttal, boy was I wrong. Your comments on Trump's lack of concern for Americans is so far fetched, from now on NWR!!!!!

fullspinzoo

Give me one good reason why he should have stuck around?

jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

there are bills in the senate to end this shutdown then Trump and congress can negotiate The GOP had 2 years of control of the house and the Senate why didn't Trump get his funding then please tell me I believe that a wall is needed also but only a fool doesn't secure funding when he has GOP Control of the Congress and the Senate and the Whitehouse. so either Trump is a fool or he really didn't want the wall so please tell which one is it I bet I don't get a good response