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Jan 12, 2019 13:34:55   #
Morgan
 
byronglimish wrote:
No! Columbus was a invading force of terrorism in central and southern America.

John Cabot.


OK, I wasn't sure where you were going with your question.

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Jan 12, 2019 13:38:48   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
maximus wrote:
Now THAT depends on whose notion of "moving forward" you are basing your "opinion" on. Now, lets see.....

"Moving forward" to being run over by i*****l a***ns, SOME of which are gangsters, cartel members, human traffickers, drug mules, rapists, murderers, and just everyday run of the mill criminals.
"Moving forward" to higher taxes, 70% if Cortez gets her way.
"Moving forward" to terrible trade deals with our "friends" while they chant death to America and burn our f**g.
"Moving forward" to L**T prominence ( no problem with L**T people) that make up only 4.5% of our population but are receiving preeminence. ( NOT democracy ).
"Moving forward" to national ridicule by little laughable countries.
"Moving forward" to history being rewritten to suit those who just "don't like it".
"Moving forward" to dissolvement of the constitution.
"Moving forward" to Sharia law.
"Moving forward" to poor economics ( or just slow as evidenced by the last eight years of a democratic POTUS)
"Moving forward" to a small weak military and the possibility of being over taken by a stronger country.
"Moving forward" to socialism.

We're not fighting progress, at least not real actual progress, and you can't say what progress is because your people use relative t***h, they just make up what they WANT the t***h to be. What WE are fighting for is to stop us from going over the edge of s chasm.
Now THAT depends on whose notion of "moving f... (show quote)



Exactly! The Progs treat all things as acceptable, except barriers. Everyone living life with reckless abandon is the end result, which is "The End"

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Jan 12, 2019 14:03:59   #
Morgan
 
maximus wrote:
Now THAT depends on whose notion of "moving forward" you are basing your "opinion" on. Now, lets see.....

"Moving forward" to being run over by i*****l a***ns, SOME of which are gangsters, cartel members, human traffickers, drug mules, rapists, murderers, and just everyday run of the mill criminals.
"Moving forward" to higher taxes, 70% if Cortez gets her way.
"Moving forward" to terrible trade deals with our "friends" while they chant death to America and burn our f**g.
"Moving forward" to L**T prominence ( no problem with L**T people) that make up only 4.5% of our population but are receiving preeminence. ( NOT democracy ).
"Moving forward" to national ridicule by little laughable countries.
"Moving forward" to history being rewritten to suit those who just "don't like it".
"Moving forward" to dissolvement of the constitution.
"Moving forward" to Sharia law.
"Moving forward" to poor economics ( or just slow as evidenced by the last eight years of a democratic POTUS)
"Moving forward" to a small weak military and the possibility of being over taken by a stronger country.
"Moving forward" to socialism.

We're not fighting progress, at least not real actual progress, and you can't say what progress is because your people use relative t***h, they just make up what they WANT the t***h to be. What WE are fighting for is to stop us from going over the edge of s chasm.
Now THAT depends on whose notion of "moving f... (show quote)


Yes, you are in about every way, from taking away equal rights to undermining new efforts in energy.

As a philosophy, being progressive is based on the idea of progress, which asserts that advancements in science, technology, economic development and social organization are vital to the improvement of the human condition. The only place a conservative might be progressive is in the science of R&D in weaponry, as far as all others categories, they are null and void. Hell, they won't even accept new findings from NASA or the EPA on climate. They not only don't want to read it, now Trump and his administration behave as dictators, by making new research unobtainable to the public, you can't behave more like a dictator than that.

Isn't it funny, now, YOU want to be all "relative" and subjective when it comes to the t***h.

Your "moving forward" superlatives are pure party propaganda twists.

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Jan 12, 2019 14:16:40   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
byronglimish wrote:
Columbus was a terrorist.




Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY adventurer of the time. In those days, naturalists k**led specimens so they could take a look at them. Wars were fought with spears, swords, and crossbows, terrible weapons indeed. There was little or no mercy when it came to conquest.
By OUR standards, they were horrible, cruel, merciless monsters, but for THEIR time, they were just status quo. Did we do any better when we came to the mainland? No!
But that's history and it is what it is. If we hadn't done what we did do, we all would not be here. I think the native Americans still get a pretty raw deal from the US.
We simply can't judge those in history by our modern standards.
In WWII, we bombed cities so hard that entire blocks would explode into flame from the intense heat, know as firestorms. But we were fighting a war with a just cause. Look at Rome, Alexander, Attila the Hun or any of those conquerors. They made history by force. That's the nature of mankind. We were told that these men conquered, but minus the gore. Nowadays, we want to see the blood and guts, the brain, the torso with limbs blown off or ripped off, pus, dead flesh, people being burned and decapitated. When I was a kid, we NEVER saw blood when the white hat k**led the evil gunslinger.
So, I v**e to just leave history alone. We can add plenty of gore from our own times.

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Jan 12, 2019 14:24:28   #
White Knight
 
When you hear about a "Poll" question everything about it.....most polls are used to manipulate public opinion. Example: When doing a poll on acceptance of homosexuality....the poll takers purposely skew their data by taking a poll with lets say 70% of the targeted population they ask questions actually being homosexual. This happens all the time. If you are pushing the L**T movement and you want positive polls concerning homosexuality....you target homosexual populations so you achieve positive results....then you front the poll like the population targeted was totally random.....which is usually a big lie. So when people like me that believe homosexuality is a sin.....we look at the poll and say" wow....92% of the population now thinks homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle".....the poll is meant to make you think "wow i'm in the 8% minority.....something must be wrong with my thinking....i need to make an adjustment in my thinking if i'm in the 8% minority". People naturally want to agree with others and they don't want to think in the minority....but they should. All of the evil stands in the majority opinions... trying as they can to manipulate society until there is no black and white anymore...only gray....sad isn't it. Do not believe polls....they are just Psychological Operations used to undermine your morality and to have one surrender their God given ability to think for themselves. When Target (the shopping center) decided that if a man felt like a woman on any given day that they could use the woman's bathroom instead of the men's bathroom.....i decided that they did not need my money and i won't even park in their parking lot....because i don't want to market for Target. how many people will allow a man to enter a woman's bathroom when their daughter is already in that bathroom? Anyone? But ....this is just how polls work....meant to sway public opinion....so that the man entering a woman's bathroom is not a creep but actually is a hero....a hero! haha. See how absurd polls really are....just there to manipulate us all. When you see a poll.....assume the poll is corrupt....because most of them are......then run away.

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Jan 12, 2019 14:29:35   #
Morgan
 
maximus wrote:
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY adventurer of the time. In those days, naturalists k**led specimens so they could take a look at them. Wars were fought with spears, swords, and crossbows, terrible weapons indeed. There was little or no mercy when it came to conquest.
By OUR standards, they were horrible, cruel, merciless monsters, but for THEIR time, they were just status quo. Did we do any better when we came to the mainland? No!
But that's history and it is what it is. If we hadn't done what we did do, we all would not be here. I think the native Americans still get a pretty raw deal from the US.
We simply can't judge those in history by our modern standards.
In WWII, we bombed cities so hard that entire blocks would explode into flame from the intense heat, know as firestorms. But we were fighting a war with a just cause. Look at Rome, Alexander, Attila the Hun or any of those conquerors. They made history by force. That's the nature of mankind. We were told that these men conquered, but minus the gore. Nowadays, we want to see the blood and guts, the brain, the torso with limbs blown off or ripped off, pus, dead flesh, people being burned and decapitated. When I was a kid, we NEVER saw blood when the white hat k**led the evil gunslinger.
So, I v**e to just leave history alone. We can add plenty of gore from our own times.
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY ad... (show quote)


I'm sorry here, but they were exceedingly cruel, and torturous things as punishments, as in cutting off all of a man's limbs and have him survive that way, or die if he were lucky, gouge out tongues and eyes.

You are so right about what is now on the screen, why has this been allowable? We in act other protections for our society, this should be one of them. This new generation has a warped sense of reality.

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Jan 12, 2019 14:31:04   #
Bcon
 
Morgan wrote:
Ah, another far new righty once again trying to do the ol flip flop. Progressives are the ones moving forward, and the "conservatives" are the ones fighting it the entire way and their focus is to always maintain the status quo. If it weren't for progressives women and people of color still wouldn't be able to v**e. Nope, it's the REpublicans that ARE the REgressives, always going against any new changes.


Hit home again, did I?

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Jan 12, 2019 14:31:14   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
maximus wrote:
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY adventurer of the time. In those days, naturalists k**led specimens so they could take a look at them. Wars were fought with spears, swords, and crossbows, terrible weapons indeed. There was little or no mercy when it came to conquest.
By OUR standards, they were horrible, cruel, merciless monsters, but for THEIR time, they were just status quo. Did we do any better when we came to the mainland? No!
But that's history and it is what it is. If we hadn't done what we did do, we all would not be here. I think the native Americans still get a pretty raw deal from the US.
We simply can't judge those in history by our modern standards.
In WWII, we bombed cities so hard that entire blocks would explode into flame from the intense heat, know as firestorms. But we were fighting a war with a just cause. Look at Rome, Alexander, Attila the Hun or any of those conquerors. They made history by force. That's the nature of mankind. We were told that these men conquered, but minus the gore. Nowadays, we want to see the blood and guts, the brain, the torso with limbs blown off or ripped off, pus, dead flesh, people being burned and decapitated. When I was a kid, we NEVER saw blood when the white hat k**led the evil gunslinger.
So, I v**e to just leave history alone. We can add plenty of gore from our own times.
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY ad... (show quote)



Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it...we're supposed to learn from it.

History now a days is indoctrinated spew for mind control purposes.

There are many avenues to factual history.

Just like Columbus day is actually honoring in a religious aspect because Columbus did not discover north America.

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Jan 12, 2019 14:37:22   #
Bcon
 
maximus wrote:
Now THAT depends on whose notion of "moving forward" you are basing your "opinion" on. Now, lets see.....

"Moving forward" to being run over by i*****l a***ns, SOME of which are gangsters, cartel members, human traffickers, drug mules, rapists, murderers, and just everyday run of the mill criminals.
"Moving forward" to higher taxes, 70% if Cortez gets her way.
"Moving forward" to terrible trade deals with our "friends" while they chant death to America and burn our f**g.
"Moving forward" to L**T prominence ( no problem with L**T people) that make up only 4.5% of our population but are receiving preeminence. ( NOT democracy ).
"Moving forward" to national ridicule by little laughable countries.
"Moving forward" to history being rewritten to suit those who just "don't like it".
"Moving forward" to dissolvement of the constitution.
"Moving forward" to Sharia law.
"Moving forward" to poor economics ( or just slow as evidenced by the last eight years of a democratic POTUS)
"Moving forward" to a small weak military and the possibility of being over taken by a stronger country.
"Moving forward" to socialism.

We're not fighting progress, at least not real actual progress, and you can't say what progress is because your people use relative t***h, they just make up what they WANT the t***h to be. What WE are fighting for is to stop us from going over the edge of s chasm.
Now THAT depends on whose notion of "moving f... (show quote)


You are right on, but I will bet dollars to doughnuts that Morgan will, very uneffectively, try to counter your arguments. As I said before. regressive

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Jan 12, 2019 14:39:23   #
Bcon
 
maximus wrote:
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY adventurer of the time. In those days, naturalists k**led specimens so they could take a look at them. Wars were fought with spears, swords, and crossbows, terrible weapons indeed. There was little or no mercy when it came to conquest.
By OUR standards, they were horrible, cruel, merciless monsters, but for THEIR time, they were just status quo. Did we do any better when we came to the mainland? No!
But that's history and it is what it is. If we hadn't done what we did do, we all would not be here. I think the native Americans still get a pretty raw deal from the US.
We simply can't judge those in history by our modern standards.
In WWII, we bombed cities so hard that entire blocks would explode into flame from the intense heat, know as firestorms. But we were fighting a war with a just cause. Look at Rome, Alexander, Attila the Hun or any of those conquerors. They made history by force. That's the nature of mankind. We were told that these men conquered, but minus the gore. Nowadays, we want to see the blood and guts, the brain, the torso with limbs blown off or ripped off, pus, dead flesh, people being burned and decapitated. When I was a kid, we NEVER saw blood when the white hat k**led the evil gunslinger.
So, I v**e to just leave history alone. We can add plenty of gore from our own times.
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY ad... (show quote)

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Jan 12, 2019 14:43:07   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Morgan wrote:
Yes, you are in about every way, from taking away equal rights to undermining new efforts in energy.

As a philosophy, being progressive is based on the idea of progress, which asserts that advancements in science, technology, economic development and social organization are vital to the improvement of the human condition. The only place a conservative might be progressive is in the science of R&D in weaponry, as far as all others categories, they are null and void. Hell, they won't even accept new findings from NASA or the EPA on climate. They not only don't want to read it, now Trump and his administration behave as dictators, by making new research unobtainable to the public, you can't behave more like a dictator than that.

Isn't it funny, now, YOU want to be all "relative" and subjective when it comes to the t***h.

Your "moving forward" superlatives are pure party propaganda twists.
Yes, you are in about every way, from taking away ... (show quote)


That's a matter of opinion, yours and mine. They differ. But, what I stated is true.
If it was all about research and development, science and great achievements, I'd be all for "moving forward". But the left's idea of moving forward is what I stated before. There are no screaming mobs protesting for science. There was a ripple when Trump got elected, but I haven't heard a word since then. Those points I mentioned are real and are promoted by the l*****ts as progress. Ben Franklin was an inventor and a scientist, a philosopher and an entrepreneur, but he still was instrumental in writing our most cherished of documents, our Constitution. I promise you, he did not see a position like the left holds with today as desirable. THAT, Morgan, is why the constitution was written the way it was. Many in your party say the Constitution is outdated and need to be replaced. Many call for socialism. Some call for c*******m. If you lump all these undesirable positions in with science, then you make science worthless.
What I said before and just now is true, not relative t***h but actual t***h.

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Jan 12, 2019 14:43:47   #
Bcon
 
maximus wrote:
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY adventurer of the time. In those days, naturalists k**led specimens so they could take a look at them. Wars were fought with spears, swords, and crossbows, terrible weapons indeed. There was little or no mercy when it came to conquest.
By OUR standards, they were horrible, cruel, merciless monsters, but for THEIR time, they were just status quo. Did we do any better when we came to the mainland? No!
But that's history and it is what it is. If we hadn't done what we did do, we all would not be here. I think the native Americans still get a pretty raw deal from the US.
We simply can't judge those in history by our modern standards.
In WWII, we bombed cities so hard that entire blocks would explode into flame from the intense heat, know as firestorms. But we were fighting a war with a just cause. Look at Rome, Alexander, Attila the Hun or any of those conquerors. They made history by force. That's the nature of mankind. We were told that these men conquered, but minus the gore. Nowadays, we want to see the blood and guts, the brain, the torso with limbs blown off or ripped off, pus, dead flesh, people being burned and decapitated. When I was a kid, we NEVER saw blood when the white hat k**led the evil gunslinger.
So, I v**e to just leave history alone. We can add plenty of gore from our own times.
Columbus was an adventurer who acted as did ANY ad... (show quote)


The only thing today that libs don’t want to show blood and guts on is the aftermath of a******ns. Then it is not fit for the public to see.

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Jan 12, 2019 14:58:01   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Kevyn wrote:
Pawns of Putin’s, it is pathetic how dumb these people are, as a result we have a Pumpkinfuhrer when we deserve a president.



Trump is a Ruskie puppet?

There's more down-home evidence that Barry Saturnia Obama was a frequent bathhouse flyer.

But that fact shouldn't make everyone on the right assume that all Obama followers are not normal sexually..should it?

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Jan 12, 2019 14:59:13   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
Morgan wrote:
I'm sorry here, but they were exceedingly cruel, and torturous things as punishments, as in cutting off all of a man's limbs and have him survive that way, or die if he were lucky, gouge out tongues and eyes.

You are so right about what is now on the screen, why has this been allowable? We in act other protections for our society, this should be one of them. This new generation has a warped sense of reality.


No doubt...horrible...inhumane. I agree 100%. But it still all adds up to us being where we are today. Do we want to tell our children about gouging eyes out, cutting off limbs, and tongues cut out. When I was in school, we also learned about Lief Erickson. Just recently, I read where there is evidence that early Chinese sailed to our western shore, making them "the first" by a long shot. I think Columbus got the recognition because as far as people back then knew, he was the first to say to himself, If we sail west far enough, we will reach the far Eastern Shore. At that time, we didn't know about Lief and the Chinese. Lief was a Viking and there were hardly a more bloodthirsty people to be found. Herbert Hoover was a t**********e, do we really need to teach this to our children? All I meant about history is this; if you find a diamond ring in a trash pile, the diamond will be remembered, NOT the trash.

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Jan 12, 2019 15:06:13   #
Mikeyavelli
 
byronglimish wrote:
No elected official has ever went un-vetted like the Kenyan.


Oh, the sunnuvab***h was vetted alright, but the media and the New World Order politicians organized the most impressive lie support system in history. I am the fool for doubting that obama is the most brilliant man ever to graduate from Harvard and that he was born in Hawaii and worked to overcome every obstacle just because he is black?
Bullmueller. Obama ain't even black. The kenyan born spawn of an Indonesian cult leader and an expatriate American c*******t rode the praises of the media right to the Whitehouse.
Biggest h**x in history.

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