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May 5, 2014 23:16:48   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
carolyn wrote:
I agree!


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ya made my day!

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May 6, 2014 00:17:26   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
carolyn wrote:
You prepare yourself and yours the way you want, and I'll prepare myself and mine the way I want. Then we all will be happy. I don't try and make myself out to be an expert on everything from rocket launchers to atom bombs as you are trying to portray.

For God's sake, there have been millions of men and women served in the army who never took it upon themselves to be a John Rambo after their stints as you are doing. BTW, what was your MOS in the army, anyway? Was it truck driver or cook?

I will carry what I feel comfortable with and continue to practice with my little .22 handgun and hope that I will never have to use anything at all to bring down a thief who wants something I have. But if that time ever comes, I can guarantee you that I will do everything in my power to stop them. And to hell with everything else you portray!
You prepare yourself and yours the way you want, a... (show quote)

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Me? Rambo? Not by a long shot. You're the one who sounds like Rambo, with all your BBA bragging about how you'll do this and do that. Unless you've already "seen the elephant," so to speak, you have no idea how you'll react.

If you ever do find yourself in a life-or-death situation, I hope you're successful in friending off your attacker. But, bluster will always lose in a fight.

BTW I was in the Navy, as a RIO; not a cook or truck driver in the Army.
As a thought, with your BBA attitude, why don't you join the service? You'd be surprised to learn that no matter how much you think you know, 'you lack a whole lot knowing a little bit.'

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May 6, 2014 01:48:47   #
Snoopy
 
carolyn wrote:
You assume wrong when you assume most women carry their weapon in their purses. Women who know their danger at the hands of the many weirdo's walking around among us carry their weapons in holsters on their bodies. You evidently do not know enough about women to even know what all they carry in their purses, so it would take several seconds more to draw a weapon from a woman's purse than it would from a holster designed for quick access.

Women are some of the most dedicated gun handlers in the world. Most strive to better themselves in everything they do, including gun handling. Before large caliber ammunition became so expensive we would go to the range at least once a month. We still go but we bought .22 cal. handguns so we can still shoot without having to mortgage the farm. We save our large caliber ammunition for the weirdo's that this government seems to find so valuable as citizens.
You assume wrong when you assume most women carry ... (show quote)



Carolyn

Great post!

Also, it is just as important to be aware of your surroundings at all times!

I use a 3 condition system. Condition 3: no obvious threats. Condition 2: time to check my surroundings and prepare defense. Condition 1: holster strap off and hand near the weapon, ready for ANYTHING!

Snoopy

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May 6, 2014 10:28:50   #
carolyn
 
alabuck wrote:
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Me? Rambo? Not by a long shot. You're the one who sounds like Rambo, with all your BBA bragging about how you'll do this and do that. Unless you've already "seen the elephant," so to speak, you have no idea how you'll react.

If you ever do find yourself in a life-or-death situation, I hope you're successful in friending off your attacker. But, bluster will always lose in a fight.

BTW I was in the Navy, as a RIO; not a cook or truck driver in the Army.
As a thought, with your BBA attitude, why don't you join the service? You'd be surprised to learn that no matter how much you think you know, 'you lack a whole lot knowing a little bit.'
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You must be a died-in-the-wool Democrat to try and reverse accusations to the other person as you just did. It was not I who started talking the tough training you had in the military. It was not I who said that a person that did not have proper and extensive training with guns should not carry one for self-protection. I guess that leaves everybody but you big brave ex-military toughs to protect themselves, eh? You poo-poo the civil training as inept and worthless, but talk as if everyone should join the military for a stint in uniform to be qualified to even own a gun. You are a loudmouth nobody that tries to make his military career out to be all that counts.

BTW, which of the military RIO's pertains to you? Is it Radar Intercept Officer, Radar Intercept Operation, Raytheon Infrared Operations, or Regional Information Officer? Or perhaps, and more likely, is it Reusable Information Object?

You are the first Swabbie that has tried to say he had extensive firearms training. Most tell me that they had limited training with weapons in boot camp, then never saw a weapon unless they were in a special force unit. So were you a member of a Seal outfit? Or just another blowhard that knows everything?

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May 6, 2014 10:42:58   #
carolyn
 
Snoopy wrote:
Carolyn

Great post!

Also, it is just as important to be aware of your surroundings at all times!

I use a 3 condition system. Condition 3: no obvious threats. Condition 2: time to check my surroundings and prepare defense. Condition 1: holster strap off and hand near the weapon, ready for ANYTHING!

Snoopy


That is the most intelligent post I have seen on here for awhile. I like the part "holster strap off." No digging around in a junk filled purse or drawing your piece carefully so you don't "mess up that dress." Get the thing out and ready to k**l that no good SOB that is trying to either k**l or rob you. OR BOTH.

My instructor told us that split seconds count, so what if you grabbed a handful of lipstick instead of your gun? Would you jab his eyes out with the sharp end of the tube or try and paint his eyes shut with it? This is basic stuff and some would make it a rocket science so it makes them seem to be elite's with a weapon. I will do what I can to stay alive and do everything to protect myself and loved ones. And I will continue to listen to my instructor and block-out the know-it-alls that want people to think they are experts in everything they do.

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May 6, 2014 11:59:06   #
bahmer
 
carolyn wrote:
That is the most intelligent post I have seen on here for awhile. I like the part "holster strap off." No digging around in a junk filled purse or drawing your piece carefully so you don't "mess up that dress." Get the thing out and ready to k**l that no good SOB that is trying to either k**l or rob you. OR BOTH.

My instructor told us that split seconds count, so what if you grabbed a handful of lipstick instead of your gun? Would you jab his eyes out with the sharp end of the tube or try and paint his eyes shut with it? This is basic stuff and some would make it a rocket science so it makes them seem to be elite's with a weapon. I will do what I can to stay alive and do everything to protect myself and loved ones. And I will continue to listen to my instructor and block-out the know-it-alls that want people to think they are experts in everything they do.
That is the most intelligent post I have seen on h... (show quote)


Using alabuck's definition of who should own and use a gun would be like saying that only NASCAR drivers and Indycar drivers would be allowed to have licenses and drive cars.

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May 6, 2014 13:29:32   #
carolyn
 
bahmer wrote:
Using alabuck's definition of who should own and use a gun would be like saying that only NASCAR drivers and Indycar drivers would be allowed to have licenses and drive cars.


:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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May 6, 2014 14:41:13   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
angery american wrote:
Your trying to be funny...But by accident you are absolutely correct...This just proves even dummies can have a moment of sanity...

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I take strong exception to your comment. I was not trying to be funny. I was dead serious. I support peaceful anarchy. I do not need to be GOVERNED. I can think, I know how to support myself, I know how to protect myself, I know right from wrong, I know who to be suspicious of, and I know I make better decisions than any government can make for me. And I know more about the Constitution than my elected officials know. What exactly do I need them for? For that matter, what do YOU need them for? Might anarchy be more dangerous? Could be. If so, it wouldn't be because of a heavily armed military made up of my own American citizens. It would be by true bad guys.

Unfortunately MOST humans don't feel as comfortable being responsible for themselves as I do, hence we have governments around to harass us and to bankrupt us and to CONTROL us. Would I o*******w the government, our real government, the government our founders put in place? Absolutely NOT! That would be treason! As long as our government worked reasonably well, it was a fine institution. It is no longer a fine institution, and one gets the impression it is terrified of its citizens, which leads me to believe it is KNOWINGLY misbehaving.

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May 6, 2014 15:55:40   #
bahmer
 
Tasine wrote:
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I take strong exception to your comment. I was not trying to be funny. I was dead serious. I support peaceful anarchy. I do not need to be GOVERNED. I can think, I know how to support myself, I know how to protect myself, I know right from wrong, I know who to be suspicious of, and I know I make better decisions than any government can make for me. And I know more about the Constitution than my elected officials know. What exactly do I need them for? For that matter, what do YOU need them for? Might anarchy be more dangerous? Could be. If so, it wouldn't be because of a heavily armed military made up of my own American citizens. It would be by true bad guys.

Unfortunately MOST humans don't feel as comfortable being responsible for themselves as I do, hence we have governments around to harass us and to bankrupt us and to CONTROL us. Would I o*******w the government, our real government, the government our founders put in place? Absolutely NOT! That would be treason! As long as our government worked reasonably well, it was a fine institution. It is no longer a fine institution, and one gets the impression it is terrified of its citizens, which leads me to believe it is KNOWINGLY misbehaving.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br I take strong exception to y... (show quote)


Amen on the knowingly misbehaving part. The rest of your post as always is spot on Tasine.

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May 6, 2014 17:02:16   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen on the knowingly misbehaving part. The rest of your post as always is spot on Tasine.

Thanks, Bahmer. Angry American will probably never read it.
:P

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May 6, 2014 23:03:02   #
mpix Loc: NorCal
 
carolyn wrote:
You must be a died-in-the-wool Democrat to try and reverse accusations to the other person as you just did. It was not I who started talking the tough training you had in the military. It was not I who said that a person that did not have proper and extensive training with guns should not carry one for self-protection. I guess that leaves everybody but you big brave ex-military toughs to protect themselves, eh? You poo-poo the civil training as inept and worthless, but talk as if everyone should join the military for a stint in uniform to be qualified to even own a gun. You are a loudmouth nobody that tries to make his military career out to be all that counts.

BTW, which of the military RIO's pertains to you? Is it Radar Intercept Officer, Radar Intercept Operation, Raytheon Infrared Operations, or Regional Information Officer? Or perhaps, and more likely, is it Reusable Information Object?

You are the first Swabbie that has tried to say he had extensive firearms training. Most tell me that they had limited training with weapons in boot camp, then never saw a weapon unless they were in a special force unit. So were you a member of a Seal outfit? Or just another blowhard that knows everything?
You must be a died-in-the-wool Democrat to try and... (show quote)


RIO. Radar Intercept Officer. Basically sat in the back seat of an aircraft and pointed out bogeys or targets of opportunity.

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May 6, 2014 23:41:25   #
carolyn
 
Tasine wrote:
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I take strong exception to your comment. I was not trying to be funny. I was dead serious. I support peaceful anarchy. I do not need to be GOVERNED. I can think, I know how to support myself, I know how to protect myself, I know right from wrong, I know who to be suspicious of, and I know I make better decisions than any government can make for me. And I know more about the Constitution than my elected officials know. What exactly do I need them for? For that matter, what do YOU need them for? Might anarchy be more dangerous? Could be. If so, it wouldn't be because of a heavily armed military made up of my own American citizens. It would be by true bad guys.

Unfortunately MOST humans don't feel as comfortable being responsible for themselves as I do, hence we have governments around to harass us and to bankrupt us and to CONTROL us. Would I o*******w the government, our real government, the government our founders put in place? Absolutely NOT! That would be treason! As long as our government worked reasonably well, it was a fine institution. It is no longer a fine institution, and one gets the impression it is terrified of its citizens, which leads me to believe it is KNOWINGLY misbehaving.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ br I take strong exception to y... (show quote)


You are to be commended for this observation. It is the most correct answer to a snide remark I have ever seen. Perhaps Democrats should stop and do a little thinking before they try and make asses out of anyone but themselves. But on the other hand, perhaps that is asking too much of their limited intelligence.

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May 7, 2014 00:00:31   #
carolyn
 
mpix wrote:
RIO. Radar Intercept Officer. Basically sat in the back seat of an aircraft and pointed out bogeys or targets of opportunity.


MY,MY,MY, what a rough tough mean machine he must have been to sit for so long in an airplane without being able to go get a beer when he got thirsty. Or did they have beer coolers on these ships of torture too? I wonder how many enemy fighter planes he shot down using his well trained military marksmanship with his handgun?

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May 7, 2014 01:35:54   #
alabuck Loc: Tennessee
 
carolyn wrote:
You must be a died-in-the-wool Democrat to try and reverse accusations to the other person as you just did. It was not I who started talking the tough training you had in the military.
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Actually, I'm a died-in-the-wool, moderate.

You alluded that you felt you were perfectly capable of taking care of yourself, based on the training you received from a guy at a gun club/shooting range. I responded by saying that, I felt (MY OPINION) that unless you had received weapons training that put you in situations that closely modeled an actual firefight, you may not be as prepared as you might think.

The training I mentioned included the training that the FBI and police receive at the FBI training facility at Quantico, VA. FBI training is not military training. There is a USMC training base at Quantico, but the two facilities are separate.
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It was not I who said that a person that did not have proper and extensive training with guns should not carry one for self-protection.
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Without the proper training, one needn't carry a gun. You're a danger to yourself and to others. Just ask the mother who shot her own daughter in the stomach, at a convenience store outside of Memphis.
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I guess that leaves everybody but you big brave ex-military toughs to protect themselves, eh? You poo-poo the civil training as inept and worthless, but talk as if everyone should join the military for a stint in uniform to be qualified to even own a gun. You are a loudmouth nobody that tries to make his military career out to be all that counts.
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I sincerely wish you'd get over your inferiority complex. Not everyone is cut-out for the military. I don't give a rat's butt if you were in the military or not. That doesn't lessen the need for receiving the proper training on how and when to pull your weapon.
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BTW, which of the military RIO's pertains to you? Is it Radar Intercept Officer, Radar Intercept Operation, Raytheon Infrared Operations, or Regional Information Officer? Or perhaps, and more likely, is it Reusable Information Object?
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You're so funny! You had to look up what a RIO was, huh? I'm surprised you left out "Righteous Indignation Officer." There are a few other names that have been ascribed to that an acronym, but I'll leave them for you to find. Your first guess was right, though.
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You are the first Swabbie that has tried to say he had extensive firearms training. Most tell me that they had limited training with weapons in boot camp, then never saw a weapon unless they were in a special force unit. So were you a member of a Seal outfit? Or just another blowhard that knows everything?
You must be a died-in-the-wool Democrat to try and... (show quote)

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After one goes through Flight Officer Candidate School and gets their rank and assignment, many go on to Advanced Survival School. That's where one is trained in survival tactics and more advanced weapons training.

So, sure, "Most tell me that they had limited training with weapons in boot camp, then never saw a weapon unless they were in a special force unit." My boot camp was a bit different than the basic training a seaman gets, but far less intensive than a SEAL's training.

So, ya see, Sweet-Pea, you made some wrong assumptions about me, again. If you make the wrong assumptions going into a possible firefight, you'll lose every time; and, most likely, you'll lose your life.

Oh, and how know from whence I speak? My F-4 was shot down over the North Vietnam coast in '73, about 60 k's from the South Vietnam border. My pilot didn't make it. I avoided capture for 2 days. When the rescue helio came, along with a Huey gunship, they drew a lot of ground fire. I was tossed an M-16 as my .45 was out of ammo. Fortunately, I'd been trained on how to use the M-16, too. Running to the rescue chopper, there were several NVA trying their darnedest to k**l me AND the 2 choppers and crews. In addition to being shot at while on the ground, running, I was trying to duck bullets ricocheting inside the rescue Huey, with 2 other guys in there, too.

So, what would've happened had I not been trained on how to survive for a while with no ready source of food, water and shelter? What would've happened had I froze when the NVA 1st arrived? What would've happened had I not known how to use my .45 and the M-16? What would've happened had I not known to run in a zig-zag pattern to the choppers? What would've happened had I not known how to land using my chute? What would've happened had I not had the survival training and the advanced weapons training? Most likely, I'd been dead a long time, now, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

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May 7, 2014 01:51:41   #
carolyn
 
alabuck wrote:
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After one goes through Flight Officer Candidate School and gets their rank and assignment, many go on to Advanced Survival School. That's where one is trained in survival tactics and more advanced weapons training.

So, sure, "Most tell me that they had limited training with weapons in boot camp, then never saw a weapon unless they were in a special force unit." My boot camp was a bit different than the basic training a seaman gets, but far less intensive than a SEAL's training.

So, ya see, Sweet-Pea, you made some wrong assumptions about me, again. If you make the wrong assumptions going into a possible firefight, you'll lose every time; and, most likely, you'll lose your life.

Oh, and how know from whence I speak? My F-4 was shot down over the North Vietnam coast in '73, about 60 k's from the South Vietnam border. My pilot didn't make it. I avoided capture for 2 days. When the rescue helio came, along with a Huey gunship, they drew a lot of ground fire. I was tossed an M-16 as my .45 was out of ammo. Fortunately, I'd been trained on how to use the M-16, too. Running to the rescue chopper, there were several NVA trying their darnedest to k**l me AND the 2 choppers and crews. In addition to being shot at while on the ground, running, I was trying to duck bullets ricocheting inside the rescue Huey, with 2 other guys in there, too.

So, what would've happened had I not been trained on how to survive for a while with no ready source of food, water and shelter? What would've happened had I froze when the NVA 1st arrived? What would've happened had I not known how to use my .45 and the M-16? What would've happened had I not known to run in a zig-zag pattern to the choppers? What would've happened had I not known how to land using my chute? What would've happened had I not had the survival training and the advanced weapons training? Most likely, I'd been dead a long time, now, and we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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I am through farting around with you. I don't care what kind of training you had or who brainwashed you into believing that civilian teachers can't teach people to handle a gun. There are too many that have succeeded in both teaching and learning that throws your "theory" out the window. Go peddle your BS to someone else that might believe your fabricated war stories because I do not.

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