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Dec 10, 2018 20:57:32   #
Seth
 
Lonewolf wrote:
They beleve Christ was a great profit


Sure, so much so that they persecute or outright murder Christians, burn down churches and build victory mosques on the sites (they tried to build a very large victory mosque under the guise of an "Islamic center" near the World Trade Center site, but it fell through) and possession of a Bible can get you arrested or worse in some Islamic countries.

BTW I know a few Coptic Christians in New York who, if you made that same statement to them, would look at you like you have two heads.

They would say:

-- "His two heads, they are of bone!"

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Dec 10, 2018 21:20:09   #
teabag09
 
Wrong again, he was considered a MESSENGER! Mike
Lonewolf wrote:
They beleve Christ was a great profit

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Dec 10, 2018 23:00:08   #
Nickolai
 
Rose42 wrote:
I once had a very interesting conversation with an atheist about where morals came from. How do atheists and agnostics explain that one?




The question of “where morals come from” has exercised philosophers, theologians and many others for millennia. It has lately, like many other questions previously addressed only through armchair rumination, become addressable empirically, through the combined approaches of modern neuroscience, genetics, psychology, anthropology and many other disciplines. From these approaches a naturalistic framework is emerging to explain the biological origins of moral behaviour. From this perspective, morality is neither objective nor transcendent – it is the pragmatic and culture-dependent expression of a set of neural systems that have evolved to allow our navigation of complex human social systems.


Moral behaviour arose in humans as an extension of the biological systems involved in recognition and care of mates and offspring. These systems are evolutionarily ancient, encoded in our genome and hard-wired into our brains. In humans, the circuits and processes that encode the urge to care for close relatives can be co-opted and extended to induce an urge to care for others in an extended social group. These systems are coupled with the ability of humans to predict future consequences of our actions and make choices to maximise not just short-term but also long-term gain. Moral decision-making is thus informed by the biology of social attachments but is governed by the principles of decision-making more generally. These entail not so much looking for the right choice but for the optimal choice, based on satisfying a wide range of relevant constraints, and assigning different priorities to them.

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Dec 10, 2018 23:07:23   #
Nickolai
 
JoyV wrote:
The 1st Amendment does not guarantee freedom from religion. It guarantees freedom OF religion. It prohibits our government from infringing on any American's religious belief or practice UNLESS that practice advocates criminal harm to others such as rape, human sacrifice, or cannibalism; to name a few.

And by the way, the movement has moved well beyond removing Christ from Christmas. It is now about removing Christmas completely including secular expressions. Now it is Rudolf being attacked. A few years ago it was the song "White Christmas". Even "Jingle Bells" is politically incorrect.
The 1st Amendment does not guarantee freedom from ... (show quote)





Freedom of religion means just that Freedom to worship what ever god one wants to worship and freedom from religion for those who have no religion. It means Government must remain neutral in matters of religion and there is a limit just as freedom of speech is limited at yelling fire in a crowded theater. Freedom of religion does not allow for harming others in the name of ones religion

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Dec 10, 2018 23:16:26   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Nickolai wrote:
The first amendment grants the people freedom from religion and the SCOTUS as ruled as such. There is no problem with nativity scenes on your front lawn in the yard of your church or any private propriety but we are protected from religious coercion on public property as Government is prohibited from promoting a particular religion


Go back and read the first amendment. Assuming you are capable of comprehending English it states that Congress shall make no law establishing a religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. This is not freedom from religion and it has no compulsion on the people of this nation but it does compel specific behavior from Congress.

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Dec 11, 2018 00:53:37   #
kemmer
 
Bcon wrote:
Maybe they should do away with April Fools day. Everyone knows that all fools day is the holiday for atheists.

I thought Halloween was for atheists. April Fools Day is the Republican national holiday.

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Dec 11, 2018 01:58:48   #
JoyV
 
Nickolai wrote:
Freedom of religion means just that Freedom to worship what ever god one wants to worship and freedom from religion for those who have no religion. It means Government must remain neutral in matters of religion and there is a limit just as freedom of speech is limited at yelling fire in a crowded theater. Freedom of religion does not allow for harming others in the name of ones religion


The 1st amendment reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Freedom of religion means you may worship or not worship as you choose. This is a restriction on what our government may do, not a restriction on the people.

While freedom FROM religion is a restriction on the people. It demands that any religious ceremonies, symbols, or speech be restricted if another does not want to see or hear it. So it PROHIBITS the free expression of religion. This is an infringement on some peoples religion. This is against what the amendment guarantees to protect. Not restricting religion is not the same thing as imposing it either.

I am not a Christian, nor religious. I was born in an American Indian pagan household, but most might label me atheist. But I am appalled by the attacks on religious freedom in the name of freedom. I am a veteran and volunteered to fight and even die to protect the United States Constitution and ALL the freedoms and rights it guarantees.

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Dec 11, 2018 03:06:24   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Kevyn, how do you feel about frescoes of Lady Justice, with or without blindfolds, being displayed in just about every court house in the country? FYI, it is directly derived from the polytheistic paganism of ancient Rome. So, in order to not be viewed as simply an i***tic l*****t automaton, you MUST say you are against it.

And further Kevyn, who says that a nativity scene must be viewed as a tribute to the birth of Jesus of Nazareth? In fact, the overwhelming number of births throughout the world are likely in similar and many in identical circumstances. In fact, Kevyn you, yourself, may have been born (assuming you were born of a woman, at all) in similar circumstances. Many children are born in a car, on the way to a hospital, in case you are not aware of this reality. Thus, a nativity scene may be viewed as a tribute to all of humanity.

If you do respond Kevyn, spare us please your banal, sophomoric platitudes. This nation was founded upon principles of a Judeo-Christian understanding of our rights. Address please, the ideas, for once.

Oh, and I almost forgot fair Kevyn. Jesus was the most important person in the history of Western Civilization. I think for that, he deserves recognition. Unless you dare challenge my hypothesis, which you cna't. So if anyone deserves recognition, such as George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Benjamin Franklin, Abraham Lincoln, your venerated FRD, why exclude Jesus?

Kevyn can't refute this but given is history of shrinking from my past challenges, he may try but will not be able to deny receiving this, since I am sending a copy directly to him.
Kevyn, how do you feel about frescoes of Lady Just... (show quote)
And there sits Moses and the Ten Commandments on the The South Wall Frieze of the Supreme Court building.

Lord Jesus has had more impact on the human race than any other man in history. 2000 years worth of impact that t***sformed whole nations and societies. The Bible itself is the best selling book in history, it has out sold the second best book by 5 times. No other book on earth has endured 2000 years of active readership, no other book has been studied and researched and followed than has the Bible, no other book in history has amassed the volume of scholarship as has the Bible.

Only two nations on earth were founded by men of deep faith in our Judeo-Christian God, Yahweh, and the principles embedded in the foundation of those nations were based on the Word of God.

Declarations of our Founding Fathers and Early Statesmen on Jesus, Christianity, and the Bible

The devil's scribes and l*****t hypocrites may wail and gnash their teeth until hell thaws out, but they can never overcome the power of Lord Jesus. Romans 8: 31.

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Dec 11, 2018 07:54:44   #
Bcon
 
kemmer wrote:
I thought Halloween was for atheists. April Fools Day is the Republican national holiday.


As usual, you are completely misinformed. But I would expect nothing less from you as I have read your other ridiculous posts. Have a Merry Christmas and a great new year.a

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Dec 11, 2018 09:35:40   #
Lonewolf
 
And we have bombed people and supplied bombs to others to bomb even more people millions k**led and tens of millions forced from their homes!
And we can always talk of the 12 million Native Americans k**led in your christian genocide to steal this country from them!!!!



Seth wrote:
Sure, so much so that they persecute or outright murder Christians, burn down churches and build victory mosques on the sites (they tried to build a very large victory mosque under the guise of an "Islamic center" near the World Trade Center site, but it fell through) and possession of a Bible can get you arrested or worse in some Islamic countries.

BTW I know a few Coptic Christians in New York who, if you made that same statement to them, would look at you like you have two heads.

They would say:

-- "His two heads, they are of bone!"
Sure, so much so that they persecute or outright m... (show quote)

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Dec 11, 2018 10:05:24   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
...Lord Jesus has had more impact on the human race than any other man in history..

Lord Buddha didn't do so bad either. Neither did Mohammad.

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Dec 11, 2018 10:39:05   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
kemmer wrote:
Lord Buddha didn't do so bad either. Neither did Mohammad.



Yes, Mohammad was a wonderful person. why don't you read Spencers latest book on Jihad, to learn the t***h, maybe younmight learn something of the t***h, you fool.

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Dec 11, 2018 10:52:39   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
I thought Halloween was for atheists. April Fools Day is the Republican national holiday.

For recognizing Democrats!

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Dec 11, 2018 10:58:53   #
kemmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Yes, Mohammad was a wonderful person. why don't you read Spencers latest book on Jihad, to learn the t***h, maybe younmight learn something of the t***h, you fool.

Why don't YOU learn what the word 'jihad' really means.

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Dec 11, 2018 10:59:01   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
mwdegutis wrote:
For recognizing Democrats!


Look for 'April Fools Day' to become every day of the year when democrats take control of the House in January. It will be an ugly time for the Republic.

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