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Dec 8, 2018 13:51:20   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
Thanks Bahmer,

You may often be a man of few words, but when you do choose to expound on a subject, it is obvious that your knowledge of the Bible, and your familiarity with it is second to none.

Your reliable presence and reassurance is a blessing to every Christian who attempts to speak God's truth on this forum.


Thanks Zemirah for the compliment I appreciate that.

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Dec 8, 2018 14:14:00   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Zemirah wrote:
Hi Jack,

It also fulfills the prophecy that false leaders, ravenous wolves would soon arise, from inside the church's own ranks, with the goal of making merchandise of the church's members.

Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.

Ravenous passions…. Their tyranny of unrealized ambitions, the pursuit of unholy desires…. Jesus saw all this while He was on the earth, and accordingly, spiritually, He forearmed His disciples: Matthew 10:16. "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves."

Jesus, Paul and Jude made it quite clear that the enemy of the gospel would come mainly via false teachers and wolves in sheep's clothing hidden among confessing believers. The main enemy of God and His work on the cross is the religious leaders that are hindering the clear gospel message of salvation by grace through faith in Jesus.

It is the way in which Roman Catholicism seeks after people to make one not a Christian, but a Christ - Eating Catholic that separates them from Christianity. It is absolutely what they teach about God and Christ and Mary that differs radically from the Bible that matters.

Instead of allowing you to come to Christ and become part of any Bible teaching body of Christ you choose, which puts you in the Church (universal), they insist you become a member of their Roman Catholic Church, with its seven sacraments, of which Jesus had never heard, and most assuredly would have condemned.

A prophecy that sadly we see coming true is 2nd Timothy 3:1-5, in which Paul lists 19 end-time attitudes that will lead to stress or perilous times for all. Verse 5 clearly warns all to turn away from people displaying such characteristics. Such behavior leads to corruption of the members and an attack against the truth.

In 2nd Timothy 3:1-5, Paul lists 19 end-time attitudes that will lead to stress or perilous times for all. Verse 5 clearly warns all to turn away from people displaying such characteristics. Such behavior leads to corruption of the members and an attack against the truth.

A church which has abandoned Scripture, to ceaselessly create their own Catechism of rules and regulations, duly recorded in the Catholic Encyclopedia, is not the true Church of Jesus Christ, nor is it a Christian Church, for rather than Christ, under the manufactured title of Pope, a mere man rules as its head.

It is God's "Scripture alone," i.e., His Holy Word, that is 1) "authorized," that is 2) "legitimate," that is 3) "historical," that is 4) "accurate," and finally, that is 5) "verifiable," and it alone which can be traced back for 2,000 years to Jesus Christ and to His Apostles.
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Amen,
And we see great upset in the Catholic church today. Even catholic blogs are questioning pope Francis, priest are leaving the church and writing articles, pinning he pope as the false Prophet. The everyday catholic members don't know what to think of the words coming out of the popes mouth, they are dumb founded.

As for the Christian church's that had questionable theology but did profess the gospel, many of these have now compromised the word of God for the liberal political correct crowds and allowing gay pastors, weddings, speaking to itching ears.

I don't think this is the falling away spoke of in the Bible. Perhaps the prequel to the falling away. I see the falling away immediately following the rapture which opens the door for the false Prophet.
Not to drift to far away from your point, have you been watching and seeing the same signals leading up to the 08-09 global economic crisis, that are happening again?
Then considering the alignment neatly in place for Psalms 81, and Ezekiel 38,39 and Damascus (leveled) never again to be inhabited, Gog Magog, the realignment of Europe (10 nation confederacy), both China and Russia quoted we are prepping our military for war [America], pope Francis has gone off the rails in statements welcoming atheist, gays into the folds, his anti-semitic stance against Israel and the Jewish people with his arms opened wide to Islam. Then looking how the previous popes plus pope Francis found pastors claiming to be Christians and having voices over multitudes (TV, radio) that would agree to having the same "Christian" beliefs as the Catholic church, all what I see as the current pope setting the stage for the curtain to open on the one world church. I have every reason to believe pope Francis the Jesuit is demon possessed, even committing miracles.

President Trump placed by God and I don't think for a minute it was to bring America back from our sunken society or God back in schools or government, rather for the benefit of Israel and helping to prepare some of the last end times puzzle pieces into place. Jerusalem as capital, stocking Israel's military, setting the stage for the seven year peace agreement, holding back the U.N., all kinda big things, but not for America instead America receives temporary blessings for blessing Israel and God restraining his judgement on America.

I could go on and on but you see where I'm headed on this thought process.

God Bless
Maranatha

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Dec 8, 2018 14:29:21   #
bahmer
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Amen,
And we see great upset in the Catholic church today. Even catholic blogs are questioning pope Francis, priest are leaving the church and writing articles, pinning he pope as the false Prophet. The everyday catholic members don't know what to think of the words coming out of the popes mouth, they are dumb founded.

As for the Christian church's that had questionable theology but did profess the gospel, many of these have now compromised the word of God for the liberal political correct crowds and allowing gay pastors, weddings, speaking to itching ears.

I don't think this is the falling away spoke of in the Bible. Perhaps the prequel to the falling away. I see the falling away immediately following the rapture which opens the door for the false Prophet.
Not to drift to far away from your point, have you been watching and seeing the same signals leading up to the 08-09 global economic crisis, that are happening again?
Then considering the alignment neatly in place for Psalms 81, and Ezekiel 38,39 and Damascus (leveled) never again to be inhabited, Gog Magog, the realignment of Europe (10 nation confederacy), both China and Russia quoted we are prepping our military for war [America], pope Francis has gone off the rails in statements welcoming atheist, gays into the folds, his anti-semitic stance against Israel and the Jewish people with his arms opened wide to Islam. Then looking how the previous popes plus pope Francis found pastors claiming to be Christians and having voices over multitudes (TV, radio) that would agree to having the same "Christian" beliefs as the Catholic church, all what I see as the current pope setting the stage for the curtain to open on the one world church. I have every reason to believe pope Francis the Jesuit is demon possessed, even committing miracles.

President Trump placed by God and I don't think for a minute it was to bring America back from our sunken society or God back in schools or government, rather for the benefit of Israel and helping to prepare some of the last end times puzzle pieces into place. Jerusalem as capital, stocking Israel's military, setting the stage for the seven year peace agreement, holding back the U.N., all kinda big things, but not for America instead America receives temporary blessings for blessing Israel and God restraining his judgement on America.

I could go on and on but you see where I'm headed on this thought process.

God Bless
Maranatha
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Excellent post thank you for your vision and it is all coming together nicely.

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Dec 8, 2018 14:36:20   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen both you and Jack along with Rose are all so very good at these things. Ups I almost forgot TexaCan as well and your responses are all backed up by scripture as compared to what Doc110 and Radiance3 back there's up with and that is misquotes from the bible and misinterpretations as well.




Doc110 and Radiance3 are out of their league and they know it. Not because Zemirah, texaCan, rose42, you and myself are so witty, or upper handed with scripture. They are out of their league defending demonic doctrine against the Power of God's word.
Jesus Defeated satan with "it is written", he Defeated the pharisees with "it is written". Neither Satan or the pharisees were able to make a defense against the word of God.
The same has shown true neither Doc110 nor Radiance3 have been able to make a case against the word of God. They have made a case defending their church but had to use scripture out of context , but not once have they made a argument/case against "It is written" scripture proving their false teaching. As we see when presented "the word of God says" the only refute is the same cut and paste babble with nothing addressing "God's word", in fact considering the tens of thousands of words written covering many months, not a single word to counter directly and specifically "God's word" proving their false teachings. They don't realize who their up against, who their fighting.... Not me, you or the ladies.

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Dec 8, 2018 15:41:07   #
bahmer
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Doc110 and Radiance3 are out of their league and they know it. Not because Zemirah, texaCan, rose42, you and myself are so witty, or upper handed with scripture. They are out of their league defending demonic doctrine against the Power of God's word.
Jesus Defeated satan with "it is written", he Defeated the pharisees with "it is written". Neither Satan or the pharisees were able to make a defense against the word of God.
The same has shown true neither Doc110 nor Radiance3 have been able to make a case against the word of God. They have made a case defending their church but had to use scripture out of context , but not once have they made a argument/case against "It is written" scripture proving their false teaching. As we see when presented "the word of God says" the only refute is the same cut and paste babble with nothing addressing "God's word", in fact considering the tens of thousands of words written covering many months, not a single word to counter directly and specifically "God's word" proving their false teachings. They don't realize who their up against, who their fighting.... Not me, you or the ladies.
Doc110 and Radiance3 are out of their league and t... (show quote)


Amen and Amen you are spot on with that Jack all Radiance can do is name call and about the same for Doc110 they can't use the scriptures because there aren't any that supports their church's teachings. I thought that the Catholic Apologists should be working for Walt Disney for the way they create these fantasy tales to verify their teachings.

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Dec 8, 2018 16:12:55   #
Rose42
 
Good point Jack. It's not us, its God's word they can't defend against. Padre couldn't either.

What you brought up somewhere else was an excellent point - did Christ leave an incomplete church? How could a perfect God do that?

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Dec 8, 2018 18:15:10   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Zemirah wrote:
Thanks Bahmer,

You may often be a man of few words, but when you do choose to expound on a subject, it is obvious that your knowledge of the Bible, and your familiarity with it is second to none.

Your reliable presence and reassurance is a blessing to every Christian who attempts to speak God's truth on this forum.



I'LL second that, well spoken.

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Dec 8, 2018 18:20:32   #
bahmer
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
I'LL second that, well spoken.


Poor Doc110 is going through all kinds of gyrations and trying his level best to shoe horn in Mariology into the bible and make it fit even if he has to drive into the bible with a hammer and nail it in place somehow. It must be so hard to prove these pagan practices that are not in the bible with biblical truth that is not there. He again reminds me of an out of shape retired Marine trying to fit in his dress blues the he outgrew years ago and now there is this reunion and he wants to look sharp but can't admit he is an old fat man now.

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Dec 8, 2018 18:31:04   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Rose42 wrote:
Good point Jack. It's not us, its God's word they can't defend against. Padre couldn't either.

What you brought up somewhere else was an excellent point - did Christ leave an incomplete church? How could a perfect God do that?



When defending the word of God against dark powers, encouraging one another is within scripture. Confirming we are on track and contributing additional verses or points. Our joy in receiving encouragement is in gratefulness of the work God has done in us, and Glory to God that reveals light through his Word.
I'm humble and grateful, blessed that God has brought us together in one spirit, one truth having the same teacher to be in his Service.

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Dec 8, 2018 18:31:57   #
Rose42
 
bahmer wrote:
Poor Doc110 is going through all kinds of gyrations and trying his level best to shoe horn in Mariology into the bible and make it fit even if he has to drive into the bible with a hammer and nail it in place somehow. It must be so hard to prove these pagan practices that are not in the bible with biblical truth that is not there. He again reminds me of an out of shape retired Marine trying to fit in his dress blues the he outgrew years ago and now there is this reunion and he wants to look sharp but can't admit he is an old fat man now.
Poor Doc110 is going through all kinds of gyration... (show quote)


Great analogy. It takes very little in comparison to prove Doc wrong. All of his posts are in vain. I am saddened though that there is so much garbage written about Mary. I'm glad she can't she it. She'd be horrified.

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Dec 8, 2018 18:33:57   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
Great analogy. It takes very little in comparison to prove Doc wrong. All of his posts are in vain. I am saddened though that there is so much garbage written about Mary. I'm glad she can't she it. She'd be horrified.


Amen and Amen

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Dec 8, 2018 18:44:07   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
bahmer wrote:
Poor Doc110 is going through all kinds of gyrations and trying his level best to shoe horn in Mariology into the bible and make it fit even if he has to drive into the bible with a hammer and nail it in place somehow. It must be so hard to prove these pagan practices that are not in the bible with biblical truth that is not there. He again reminds me of an out of shape retired Marine trying to fit in his dress blues the he outgrew years ago and now there is this reunion and he wants to look sharp but can't admit he is an old fat man now.
Poor Doc110 is going through all kinds of gyration... (show quote)



Reminds me of a kid when I was in either the second or third grade. Poor kid had burdens I can only guess, but we're of the worst kind.
This kid had the worst temper of anyone ever in my life. His face would turn the brightest red, his fist would clench, then you knew the unhinged explosion was coming.
Hands waving, screaming, stomping feet in an anger and flurry that was frightening. He was eventually removed from school. Doc110 no longer able to hammer out on his keyboard a lengthy demeaning insult, a long false refute and then to gloat would disable the ability to reply. Now that administration has removed the ability to disable someone, I see that kid, the same kid exploding in absolute flurry of rage and anger.

God Bless

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Dec 8, 2018 18:47:09   #
bahmer
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Reminds me of a kid when I was in either the second or third grade. Poor kid had burdens I can only guess, but we're of the worst kind.
This kid had the worst temper of anyone ever in my life. His face would turn the brightest red, his fist would clench, then you knew the unhinged explosion was coming.
Hands waving, screaming, stomping feet in an anger and flurry that was frightening. He was eventually removed from school. Doc110 no longer able to hammer out on his keyboard a lengthy demeaning insult, a long false refute and then to gloat would disable the ability to reply. Now that administration has removed the ability to disable someone, I see that kid, the same kid exploding in absolute flurry of rage and anger.

God Bless
Reminds me of a kid when I was in either the secon... (show quote)


How true and it is a shame.

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Dec 8, 2018 20:52:31   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Lack of self control in a child, IMHO, exhibited in lying, threatening,
wild gesturing, in most instances is a display of a lack of proper parenting.

In an adult, however, unless there is a medical condition,
I see no excuse for a lack of the most basic moral behavior,
as has been demonstrated in extraordinary flights of fancy
directed at forum members whose background is unknown to them.

If taught nothing in proper behavior at home, most of us adapt
in a hurry when faced with studying and maintaining a required GPA
at a University, or holding on to a 1st employment,
even if only a stepping stone.

That was decades ago for most of those on this forum, and for those
who have, to this day, never mastered the basics of Behavior 101,
their life has been too easy, i.e., without challenges.

It has been my experience that the Holy Spirit, when an existent part
of someone's life, has, at the bare minimum, the ability to present that
person as civilized, if they are willing to comply.

In the life of someone who deifies Mary, to the exclusion of Jesus Christ, the source of
any spiritual influence does not reside in God's Word. How could it?



bahmer wrote:
How true and it is a shame.

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