Is Peter the rock on which the Church is built? Not according to God's word
Dec 6, 2018 12:05:34 #
Roes42.
Since you don't read anything I post.
Lets now go full circle on Sola Scriptura, again.
Sola Scriptura can't be found in the Bible.
Common sense, "Logic" tell's the Bible reader, e.g.
1. Jesus Christ did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
2. The 12 Apostles did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
3. The Early Church Patristic Fathers did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
4. The Pope's, the Bishop's, the Cardinals, the Priest's, the Deacons, the Friar's-Brothers, the Nun's-Sisters and nor did the Faithful Laity did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
From the Beginning of the Christian Catholic Church to the present 1,987 year old Catholic infallible biblical teachings and doctrine.
5. The Council of Nicaea AD 397 did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
Refute this Rose42
Sola Scriptura is a Man-Made doctrine invented, by Martin Luther, a heretic and dead a lying false religion and cannot be proven scripturally .
Doc110
Since you don't read anything I post.
Lets now go full circle on Sola Scriptura, again.
Sola Scriptura can't be found in the Bible.
Common sense, "Logic" tell's the Bible reader, e.g.
1. Jesus Christ did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
2. The 12 Apostles did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
3. The Early Church Patristic Fathers did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
4. The Pope's, the Bishop's, the Cardinals, the Priest's, the Deacons, the Friar's-Brothers, the Nun's-Sisters and nor did the Faithful Laity did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
From the Beginning of the Christian Catholic Church to the present 1,987 year old Catholic infallible biblical teachings and doctrine.
5. The Council of Nicaea AD 397 did not teach Sola Scripturea . . .
Refute this Rose42
Sola Scriptura is a Man-Made doctrine invented, by Martin Luther, a heretic and dead a lying false religion and cannot be proven scripturally .
Doc110
Rose42 wrote:
Catholic doctrine is irrelevant to Christianity Doc. What matters is the word of God.
Muslims and Mormons can get degrees as well though their churches are also false.
The only thing I hate is Catholic doctrine. I don't hate Catholics.
Catholic doctrine is irrelevant to Christianity Doc. What matters is the word of God.
Muslims and Mormons can get degrees as well though their churches are also false.
The only thing I hate is Catholic doctrine. I don't hate Catholics.
Dec 6, 2018 12:11:54 #
Doc110 wrote:
Roes42. br br Since you don't read anything I pos... (show quote)
Seriously Doc, do you pay attention? I did read your post. And I refuted it. Again.
Here is the proof for Sola Scriptura. Again. God's word.
If Catholics want to say we need sacred tradition in order to be properly equipped doctrinally and spiritually, then they must establish that the Bible is not sufficient for teaching, or proof, correction, and training in righteousness and doctrinal issues.
These verses are also in the Catholic version of the bible so we can prove sola scriptura with the Catholic version.
Tim. 3:16-17, "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 that the man of God may be adequate--equipped for every good work."
Psalm 19
7 The law of the Lord is perfect,
reviving the soul;
the testimony of the Lord is sure,
making wise the simple;
8 the precepts of the Lord are right,
rejoicing the heart;
the commandment of the Lord is pure,
enlightening the eyes;
9 the fear of the Lord is clean,
enduring forever;
the rules of the Lord are true,
and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold,
even much fine gold;
sweeter also than honey
and drippings of the honeycomb.
11 Moreover, by them is your servant warned;
in keeping them there is great reward.
12 Who can discern his errors?
Declare me innocent from hidden faults.
13 Keep back your servant also from presumptuous sins;
let them not have dominion over me!
Then I shall be blameless,
and innocent of great transgression.
14 Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable in your sight,
O Lord, my rock and my redeemer.
There are more but I kept them out for easier reading as these are very specific.
Dec 6, 2018 12:14:08 #
Up-Y-ur' Balmer the little Protestant cheerleader boy.
The only ignorance of yours in ignorance of the Bible.
Your Protestant religion is a dead religion, made by a man-made tool.
With Exaggeration's of your own Personal Emotional Belief's, Protestant Hypocritical Truth's, Empty religious Rhetoric. devoid of Real Factual Substance.
You spout nothingness but a hollow dead religion.
The only ignorance of yours in ignorance of the Bible.
Your Protestant religion is a dead religion, made by a man-made tool.
With Exaggeration's of your own Personal Emotional Belief's, Protestant Hypocritical Truth's, Empty religious Rhetoric. devoid of Real Factual Substance.
You spout nothingness but a hollow dead religion.
bahmer wrote:
And you and Radiance are two of the most ignorant people on OPP. Things that have been explained every which that can be thought of and you two still sit in your ignorance and deny the truth.
And you and Radiance are two of the most ignorant people on OPP. Things that have been explained every which that can be thought of and you two still sit in your ignorance and deny the truth.
Dec 6, 2018 13:56:10 #
She is a protestant hack job protestant sycophant, that spews fourth hate speech religious prejudices as you do Balmer.
You don't even know your early Church history, what the apostles taught the Early Church patristic Fathers.
You are biblically ignorant of church doctrine such as:
The Didache (Koine Greek: διδαχή), also known as “The Teaching,” or, “The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles,” is an enigmatic primitive Church document describing early Christian ethics, practices, and order.
09/19/2016 Church History: The Didache
Sal Ciresi Herald Columnist (From the issue of 8/22/02)
Historical research has spurred the discovery of many documents that are related to Christianity.
Several writings of this kind have given precious insights into the epochs before and after the founding of the Catholic Church. One particular writing, part of the Patristic corpus (i.e. writings of the Church Fathers), has shed valuable light on Catholicism:
"The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles," better known as The Didache. A Greek copy of The Didache was first discovered in 1873; a text that was part of an 11th century manuscript entitled Codex Hierosolymitanus (circa 1056).
The ecclesiastic of Nicomedia, a gentleman named Bryennios, is credited with finding this codex, published in 1883.
Since the initial discovery in the 19th century, The Didache has been found in fragments (Latin, Coptic, Ethiopic, Syriac) and in complete translation (Georgian).
Today, The Didache is readily accessible in English, and an integral part of many studies on Church history and theology.
As the case with several writings from antiquity, speculation surrounds some aspects of The Didache. The writer is unknown, as well as its place of composition. This treatise is believed to have originated from the East: candidates have been Syria, Palestine and Egypt.
Dating is less speculative: The Didache is believed to have been written between the first and second centuries.
Patristic scholars are confident that this work is one of the earliest Christian tomes of the Catholic Faith.
Later studies have shown that The Didache has been referenced in other known documents, such as the Apostolic Constitutions, a work dated to the fourth century.
More crucial than any speculation on The Didache is its substance.
The title, as indicated, reflects a summary of the doctrines of the Lord Jesus Christ that were taught by the Apostles to the world.
The Didache contains 16 chapters, which can be divided into four topical sections:
1. Oral catechesis (1-6),
2. liturgical instruction (7-10),
3. Disciplinary regulations (11-15), and
4. The doctrine of the Second Coming (16).
This work has been utilized by the Magisterium;
The Didache is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (Nos. 1331, 1403, 1696, 2271, 2760 and 2767).
It is hoped that the following brief excerpts from The Didache will encourage further study and reflection.
The Didache 1.1 is clear enough: "There are two Ways, one of Life and one of Death, and there is a great difference between the two Ways."
This implies one of the most basic (and necessary) principles of the Christian life: by Gods grace, strive to do good and avoid evil.
This fact is rooted in Sacred Scripture (cf. Dt 30:19; Mt 7:21).
The opening line in this Patristic work is refreshing, especially useful in our day, when some wish to cloak vice under the mantle of "personal freedom" or "individual rights."
Addressing the duties of parents, The Didache reads: "You shall not withhold your hand from your son or from your daughter, but you shall teach them the fear of God from their youth" (4.9).
This mandate, one of instructing children in the truths of the Catholic Faith, reiterates the common theme that the home is the "domestic Church."
The Magisterium continues this Patristic concept, stating in the1981 document Familiaris Consortio (Role of the Christian Family in the Modern World) No. 36, the special role of parents as the primary educators for their children.
"But let none eat or drink of your Eucharist," states The Didache 9.5, "except those who have been baptized in the Lords name."
It is evident that from the earliest days of the Catholic Church, some restrictions were in place for denying access to the Blessed Sacrament.
Even today, the Code of Canon Law still maintains certain regulations for reception of the Sacrament of the Altar.
(cf. Canons 912-919).
A deeper examination of The Didache is highly profitable for the student of history or theology.
This work of the Patristic corpus is certainly one of the most insightful writings dated near the Apostolic era.
The document touches upon faith, morals, and discipline; a pattern that would be followed by many Magisterial pronouncements throughout the ages.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04779a.htm
Yeah the "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles," better known as The Didache is a fairy tale, and fables.
To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant
Cardinal John Henry Newman, convert to Catholicism
You don't even know your early Church history, what the apostles taught the Early Church patristic Fathers.
You are biblically ignorant of church doctrine such as:
The Didache (Koine Greek: διδαχή), also known as “The Teaching,” or, “The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles,” is an enigmatic primitive Church document describing early Christian ethics, practices, and order.
09/19/2016 Church History: The Didache
Sal Ciresi Herald Columnist (From the issue of 8/22/02)
Historical research has spurred the discovery of many documents that are related to Christianity.
Several writings of this kind have given precious insights into the epochs before and after the founding of the Catholic Church. One particular writing, part of the Patristic corpus (i.e. writings of the Church Fathers), has shed valuable light on Catholicism:
"The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles," better known as The Didache. A Greek copy of The Didache was first discovered in 1873; a text that was part of an 11th century manuscript entitled Codex Hierosolymitanus (circa 1056).
The ecclesiastic of Nicomedia, a gentleman named Bryennios, is credited with finding this codex, published in 1883.
Since the initial discovery in the 19th century, The Didache has been found in fragments (Latin, Coptic, Ethiopic, Syriac) and in complete translation (Georgian).
Today, The Didache is readily accessible in English, and an integral part of many studies on Church history and theology.
As the case with several writings from antiquity, speculation surrounds some aspects of The Didache. The writer is unknown, as well as its place of composition. This treatise is believed to have originated from the East: candidates have been Syria, Palestine and Egypt.
Dating is less speculative: The Didache is believed to have been written between the first and second centuries.
Patristic scholars are confident that this work is one of the earliest Christian tomes of the Catholic Faith.
Later studies have shown that The Didache has been referenced in other known documents, such as the Apostolic Constitutions, a work dated to the fourth century.
More crucial than any speculation on The Didache is its substance.
The title, as indicated, reflects a summary of the doctrines of the Lord Jesus Christ that were taught by the Apostles to the world.
The Didache contains 16 chapters, which can be divided into four topical sections:
1. Oral catechesis (1-6),
2. liturgical instruction (7-10),
3. Disciplinary regulations (11-15), and
4. The doctrine of the Second Coming (16).
This work has been utilized by the Magisterium;
The Didache is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church (Nos. 1331, 1403, 1696, 2271, 2760 and 2767).
It is hoped that the following brief excerpts from The Didache will encourage further study and reflection.
The Didache 1.1 is clear enough: "There are two Ways, one of Life and one of Death, and there is a great difference between the two Ways."
This implies one of the most basic (and necessary) principles of the Christian life: by Gods grace, strive to do good and avoid evil.
This fact is rooted in Sacred Scripture (cf. Dt 30:19; Mt 7:21).
The opening line in this Patristic work is refreshing, especially useful in our day, when some wish to cloak vice under the mantle of "personal freedom" or "individual rights."
Addressing the duties of parents, The Didache reads: "You shall not withhold your hand from your son or from your daughter, but you shall teach them the fear of God from their youth" (4.9).
This mandate, one of instructing children in the truths of the Catholic Faith, reiterates the common theme that the home is the "domestic Church."
The Magisterium continues this Patristic concept, stating in the1981 document Familiaris Consortio (Role of the Christian Family in the Modern World) No. 36, the special role of parents as the primary educators for their children.
"But let none eat or drink of your Eucharist," states The Didache 9.5, "except those who have been baptized in the Lords name."
It is evident that from the earliest days of the Catholic Church, some restrictions were in place for denying access to the Blessed Sacrament.
Even today, the Code of Canon Law still maintains certain regulations for reception of the Sacrament of the Altar.
(cf. Canons 912-919).
A deeper examination of The Didache is highly profitable for the student of history or theology.
This work of the Patristic corpus is certainly one of the most insightful writings dated near the Apostolic era.
The document touches upon faith, morals, and discipline; a pattern that would be followed by many Magisterial pronouncements throughout the ages.
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04779a.htm
Yeah the "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles," better known as The Didache is a fairy tale, and fables.
To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant
Cardinal John Henry Newman, convert to Catholicism
bahmer wrote:
Amen and Amen very well stated there Rose42 thanks for the rebuttal the Roman Catholic Church reads like a fairy tale it is all made up of fables from the upper echelon of the Roman Catholic Church all lies to confuse the parishioners.
It is not found in the bible and is therefore false teaching.
Amen and Amen very well stated there Rose42 thanks for the rebuttal the Roman Catholic Church reads like a fairy tale it is all made up of fables from the upper echelon of the Roman Catholic Church all lies to confuse the parishioners.
It is not found in the bible and is therefore false teaching.
Dec 6, 2018 14:09:39 #
Doc110 wrote:
Yeah the "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles," better known as The Didache is a fairy tale, and fables.
Yeah the "The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles," better known as The Didache is a fairy tale, and fables.
What it isn't is inspired which is why its not in the Bible. One thing is for certain, you won't get the truth from the Catholic church.
The Didache is also called the "Teaching of the Twelve Apostles." It was possibly written around 65 - 80 A.D. and is supposed to be what the twelve apostles taught to the Gentiles concerning life and death, church order, fasting, baptism, prayer, etc. There is debate as to its authenticity. The work is cited by Eusebius who lived from 260 - 341 and Athanasius 293-373. It seems to be referenced by Origen who lived from 185-254. In the Didache, 16:2-3 is quoted in the Epistle of Barnabas in 4:9, or vice versa.1 The Epistle of Barnabas was written in 130-131 A.D. The Didache is not inspired, but is valuable as an early church document.
https://carm.org/didache
Quote:
To be deep in history is to cease being Protestant
Cardinal John Henry Newman, convert to Catholicism
Cardinal John Henry Newman, convert to Catholicism
That is a profoundly silly statement.
Dec 6, 2018 14:21:17 #
Rose42
Prove to me Jesus Christ taught Sola Scripture. His Actual words . . .
stop lying Rose42, Spare the OPP religious readers more of you're . . . Regurgitated Dendrite scriptural compost opinions. . . . . .
The 12 Apostles actual words . . . on Sola Scripture
The Early Church Fathers actual words . . . on Sola Scripture
Your way out of your protestant biblical league . . .
What now URL Link to a web site that can't prove Sola scriptura.
Typical Protestant biblical altruism.
And now you want to base Man-Made Martin Luther Protestant doctrine, Sola scriptura on Psalm 19 passage to confer what Luther wrote.
What a hoot Rose42
Psalm 19 passage, The Law of the Lord Is Perfect
And what Law did Martin Luther write.
Because God did not write Sola scriptura in this passage of Pasalm 19.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+19&version=ESV
Nor did Jesus write Sola Scriptura in 1 Timothy 3:14-16
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+3%3A14-17&version=ESV
The Mystery of Godliness
14 I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these things to you so that,
15 if I delay, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth.
16 Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness:
He[a] was manifested in the flesh,
vindicated[b] by the Spirit,[c]
seen by angels,
proclaimed among the nations,
believed on in the world,
taken up in glory.
Please stop pulling on my leg . . . . awat a literal biblical fabrication on Your part.
You are a laughing stock Protestant that farts and you think it's a rose smell.
Sola Scriptura is the Literal interpretation Protestant theology-doctrine.
It does not exist in the Bible, try a few more biblical literal translations.
It is made from a dead Protestant religion that is Man-Made.
You look ridiculous and implying this falsehood.
If it ain't in the Bible then it is an apostasy and a heretical doctrine.
Prove to me Jesus Christ taught Sola Scripture. His Actual words . . .
You Can't . . . end of subject . . .
Sola scriptura is totally debunked
Doc110
Prove to me Jesus Christ taught Sola Scripture. His Actual words . . .
stop lying Rose42, Spare the OPP religious readers more of you're . . . Regurgitated Dendrite scriptural compost opinions. . . . . .
The 12 Apostles actual words . . . on Sola Scripture
The Early Church Fathers actual words . . . on Sola Scripture
Your way out of your protestant biblical league . . .
What now URL Link to a web site that can't prove Sola scriptura.
Typical Protestant biblical altruism.
And now you want to base Man-Made Martin Luther Protestant doctrine, Sola scriptura on Psalm 19 passage to confer what Luther wrote.
What a hoot Rose42
Psalm 19 passage, The Law of the Lord Is Perfect
And what Law did Martin Luther write.
Because God did not write Sola scriptura in this passage of Pasalm 19.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+19&version=ESV
Nor did Jesus write Sola Scriptura in 1 Timothy 3:14-16
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+3%3A14-17&version=ESV
The Mystery of Godliness
14 I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these things to you so that,
15 if I delay, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth.
16 Great indeed, we confess, is the mystery of godliness:
He[a] was manifested in the flesh,
vindicated[b] by the Spirit,[c]
seen by angels,
proclaimed among the nations,
believed on in the world,
taken up in glory.
Please stop pulling on my leg . . . . awat a literal biblical fabrication on Your part.
You are a laughing stock Protestant that farts and you think it's a rose smell.
Sola Scriptura is the Literal interpretation Protestant theology-doctrine.
It does not exist in the Bible, try a few more biblical literal translations.
It is made from a dead Protestant religion that is Man-Made.
You look ridiculous and implying this falsehood.
If it ain't in the Bible then it is an apostasy and a heretical doctrine.
Prove to me Jesus Christ taught Sola Scripture. His Actual words . . .
You Can't . . . end of subject . . .
Sola scriptura is totally debunked
Doc110
Rose42 wrote:
br br Seriously Doc, do you pay attention? I di... (show quote)
Dec 6, 2018 14:36:10 #
Rose42
More Protestant Straw-Man skepticism
Ohhhh please, suck it up, you are out classed and out gunned.
All you can do is to lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, and fabricate Protestant nonsense.
All you do is spew compost lie's, you never respond with URL-links and no facts, no Facts, no FACTs.
You only provide Supposition's, Innuendo's, Exaggeration's of your own Personal Emotional Belief's, Hypocritical Truth's, Empty Rhetoric devoid of Real Factual Substance and full of Regurgitated Dendrite Compost protestant Opinions.
Facts Rose 42, actual facts and not a Strawman Conjecture.
All you can do is to lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, and fabricate Protestant nonsense.
To be deep in History is to cease being Protestant.
Cardinal John Henry Newman, Former Episcopal Bishop and convert to Catholicism.
Ignore the historical facts and evidence of the Early Catholic Christian Church all you want.
What portion protestant lies of the intestinal tissue walls, did you pull this one out of the rectum ?
You're on a fabricated compost roll now.
. . . facts, Facts, FACTs, and URL link websites rose . . .
Nothing holds up in this court of truths and laws.
More Protestant Straw-Man skepticism
Ohhhh please, suck it up, you are out classed and out gunned.
All you can do is to lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, and fabricate Protestant nonsense.
All you do is spew compost lie's, you never respond with URL-links and no facts, no Facts, no FACTs.
You only provide Supposition's, Innuendo's, Exaggeration's of your own Personal Emotional Belief's, Hypocritical Truth's, Empty Rhetoric devoid of Real Factual Substance and full of Regurgitated Dendrite Compost protestant Opinions.
Facts Rose 42, actual facts and not a Strawman Conjecture.
All you can do is to lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, and fabricate Protestant nonsense.
To be deep in History is to cease being Protestant.
Cardinal John Henry Newman, Former Episcopal Bishop and convert to Catholicism.
Ignore the historical facts and evidence of the Early Catholic Christian Church all you want.
What portion protestant lies of the intestinal tissue walls, did you pull this one out of the rectum ?
You're on a fabricated compost roll now.
. . . facts, Facts, FACTs, and URL link websites rose . . .
Nothing holds up in this court of truths and laws.
Rose42 wrote:
That is a profoundly silly statement.
That is a profoundly silly statement.
Dec 6, 2018 14:37:27 #
Doc110 wrote:
Rose42
Prove to me Jesus Christ taught Sola Scripture. His Actual words . . .
Prove to me Jesus Christ taught Sola Scripture. His Actual words . . .
I quoted God's word which you apparently don't really believe.
Quote:
Psalm 19 passage, The Law of the Lord Is Perfect
And what Law did Martin Luther write.
Because God did not write Sola scriptura in this passage of Pasalm 19.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+19&version=ESV
And what Law did Martin Luther write.
Because God did not write Sola scriptura in this passage of Pasalm 19.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+19&version=ESV
You don't know your Bible Doc. You tell me what it "really" means because according to you God is lying to us in Psalm 19.
Quote:
Nor did Jesus write Sola Scriptura in 1 Timothy 3:14-16
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+3%3A14-17&version=ESV
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+3%3A14-17&version=ESV
Here you are again calling God a liar.
Quote:
Prove to me Jesus Christ taught Sola Scripture. His Actual words . . .
You Can't . . . end of subject . . .
Sola scriptura is totally debunked
Doc110
You Can't . . . end of subject . . .
Sola scriptura is totally debunked
Doc110
Done. It's in the Bible and you can't disprove it. Calling people names doesn't give you credibility, just the opposite in fact. Satan is crafty but God's word defeats him.
Dec 6, 2018 14:49:36 #
Really, . . . . show us all in the Bible where Jesus taught and instructed Sola Scriptura ?
Prove it from the 4 Gospels Jesu's words ?
1. Matthew ?
2. Mark ?
3. Luke ? and
4. John?
Better yet, How about Act's of the Apostles ?
I don't believe your Red-Herring protestant fallacies.
You are a simpleton ignorant prodigious moroon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
I just did, I disproved Sola Scriptura.
Because Jesus never taught or instructed Sola Scriptura, because the Bible was-not written and or codified by the Catholic Church until AD 397 at the Council of Nicaea.
How is that Protestant biblical scriptural thin ice . . . going ?
Prove it from the 4 Gospels Jesu's words ?
1. Matthew ?
2. Mark ?
3. Luke ? and
4. John?
Better yet, How about Act's of the Apostles ?
I don't believe your Red-Herring protestant fallacies.
You are a simpleton ignorant prodigious moroon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYFq7ZJg4c
I just did, I disproved Sola Scriptura.
Because Jesus never taught or instructed Sola Scriptura, because the Bible was-not written and or codified by the Catholic Church until AD 397 at the Council of Nicaea.
How is that Protestant biblical scriptural thin ice . . . going ?
Rose42 wrote:
Done. It's in the Bible and you can't disprove it.
Calling people names doesn't give you credibility, just the opposite in fact. Satan is crafty but God's word defeats him.
Done. It's in the Bible and you can't disprove it.
Calling people names doesn't give you credibility, just the opposite in fact. Satan is crafty but God's word defeats him.
Dec 6, 2018 14:52:36 #
Yeah rose, Your form of satan's biblical hell is very reassuring.
Can I escort you to the Pit and help throw you in, Helllllllllllllll hope it's warm enough for you.
Can I escort you to the Pit and help throw you in, Helllllllllllllll hope it's warm enough for you.
Rose42 wrote:
Done. It's in the Bible and you can't disprove it. Calling people names doesn't give you credibility, just the opposite in fact.
Satan is crafty but God's word defeats him.
Done. It's in the Bible and you can't disprove it. Calling people names doesn't give you credibility, just the opposite in fact.
Satan is crafty but God's word defeats him.
Dec 6, 2018 14:56:39 #
Doc110 wrote:
Really, . . . . show us all in the Bible where J... (show quote)
Are not God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all one? Do you deny this? Is not the Bible the inspired word of God as it tells us? Yet you believe God is lying to us in His word and vainly use man's word to refute it. Faced with God's truth you deny it.
The Catholic church had nothing to do with the protestant Bible or with Christianity. You believe a history made up by your church.
Dec 6, 2018 15:14:01 #
No Rose, I know my Bible and Catholic faith.
And I'm judging you a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . .
I don't have to answer you straw-man lying fallacies . . . taunts and biblical fabrications.
1. Sola scriptura, is not the inspired word of God.
2. Sola scriptura was Man-Made theology doctrine made up by Martin Luther.
That you and others on the OPP religious forum, are sowing Protestants-satan's heretical Christian discontent.
3. Luther developed his man-made religious doctrine and taught Man-Made Sola-Scriptura.
So Protestant's they could be their own little pope's, to be a self-serving independent interpreter of the Bible and now we have 30,000 plus Protestant denominations and divisional sects...
Look where you Protestants have strayed into satan's biblical pit of false religious discontent. Your, BLIND AND CAN-NOT SEE GODS TRUTH . . .
4. Sola Scriptura is not found in the inspired word of God.
5. Jesus Christ didn't teach Sola Scriptura and Jesus never instructed Sola Scriptura in the New Testament Bible.
6. You can't prove Jesus Taught instructed or spoke sola Scriptura.
That makes you a Protestant lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier,
Rose you are protestant delusional ....
I Just proved your straw-man sola Scriptura is a fallacy.
And I'm judging you a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . .
I don't have to answer you straw-man lying fallacies . . . taunts and biblical fabrications.
1. Sola scriptura, is not the inspired word of God.
2. Sola scriptura was Man-Made theology doctrine made up by Martin Luther.
That you and others on the OPP religious forum, are sowing Protestants-satan's heretical Christian discontent.
3. Luther developed his man-made religious doctrine and taught Man-Made Sola-Scriptura.
So Protestant's they could be their own little pope's, to be a self-serving independent interpreter of the Bible and now we have 30,000 plus Protestant denominations and divisional sects...
Look where you Protestants have strayed into satan's biblical pit of false religious discontent. Your, BLIND AND CAN-NOT SEE GODS TRUTH . . .
4. Sola Scriptura is not found in the inspired word of God.
5. Jesus Christ didn't teach Sola Scriptura and Jesus never instructed Sola Scriptura in the New Testament Bible.
6. You can't prove Jesus Taught instructed or spoke sola Scriptura.
That makes you a Protestant lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier, lier,
Rose you are protestant delusional ....
I Just proved your straw-man sola Scriptura is a fallacy.
Rose42 wrote:
Are not God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all one? Do you deny this?
Is not the Bible the inspired word of God as it tells us?
Yet you believe God is lying to us in His word and vainly use man's word to refute it.
Faced with God's truth you deny it.
The Catholic church had nothing to do with the protestant Bible or with Christianity. You believe a history made up by your church.
Are not God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all one? Do you deny this?
Is not the Bible the inspired word of God as it tells us?
Yet you believe God is lying to us in His word and vainly use man's word to refute it.
Faced with God's truth you deny it.
The Catholic church had nothing to do with the protestant Bible or with Christianity. You believe a history made up by your church.
Dec 6, 2018 15:52:42 #
Rose you are very good at twisting biblical words around.
Who taught you to be this deceitful . . .
1. The Catholic Church had everything to to with the New Testament Bible. This is just another twisted fabricated Protestant false altruism's.
2. The Bible was Codified in AD 397, . . . everything was written in the Greek. Are you this historical ignorant and a Protestant simpleton . . .
3. The Bible has been translated in the Early Church fathers Greek and Ancient mediaeval Catholic Church never had a problem translating the Bible this is a myth.
Saint Jerome translated the latin Vulgate in the 5th century was consistent with Church teaching.
4. Not until the Gutenberg Press in 1439 and the 1444 1449 first movable type printing workshop.
5. We able to see different versions of the vernacular bible, until then all bibles were handwritten bibles and were not cost effective, and most people could not read and write before that time period.
So Yes, the Bible was in the Written Greek of the day... and has everything to do with Christianity.
The Catholic Church Written and Oral Traditions and teaching arm of the Magisterium have everything to do with Church History.
Really rose42 you are really ignorant and religiously twisted, why do you lie and fabricate these anti-Catholic mistruths.
These are all Venial sins, and it is going very badly for you . . .
Hell and the damnation of teaching false biblical doctrine is very damming, especially on the OPP religious Forum . . . .
Who taught you to be this deceitful . . .
1. The Catholic Church had everything to to with the New Testament Bible. This is just another twisted fabricated Protestant false altruism's.
2. The Bible was Codified in AD 397, . . . everything was written in the Greek. Are you this historical ignorant and a Protestant simpleton . . .
3. The Bible has been translated in the Early Church fathers Greek and Ancient mediaeval Catholic Church never had a problem translating the Bible this is a myth.
Saint Jerome translated the latin Vulgate in the 5th century was consistent with Church teaching.
4. Not until the Gutenberg Press in 1439 and the 1444 1449 first movable type printing workshop.
5. We able to see different versions of the vernacular bible, until then all bibles were handwritten bibles and were not cost effective, and most people could not read and write before that time period.
So Yes, the Bible was in the Written Greek of the day... and has everything to do with Christianity.
The Catholic Church Written and Oral Traditions and teaching arm of the Magisterium have everything to do with Church History.
Really rose42 you are really ignorant and religiously twisted, why do you lie and fabricate these anti-Catholic mistruths.
These are all Venial sins, and it is going very badly for you . . .
Hell and the damnation of teaching false biblical doctrine is very damming, especially on the OPP religious Forum . . . .
Rose42 wrote:
Are not God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all one? Do you deny this?
Is not the Bible the inspired word of God as it tells us?
Yet you believe God is lying to us in His word and vainly use man's word to refute it.
Faced with God's truth you deny it.
The Catholic church had nothing to do with the protestant Bible or with Christianity.
You believe a history made up by your church.
Are not God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit all one? Do you deny this?
Is not the Bible the inspired word of God as it tells us?
Yet you believe God is lying to us in His word and vainly use man's word to refute it.
Faced with God's truth you deny it.
The Catholic church had nothing to do with the protestant Bible or with Christianity.
You believe a history made up by your church.
Dec 6, 2018 15:53:23 #
Doc110 wrote:
No Rose, I know my Bible and Catholic faith.
You know Catholicism, not the Bible.
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And I'm judging you a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . . . . a heretical apostate Protestant lier . .
Go right ahead. It means nothing.
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1. Sola scriptura, is not the inspired word of God.
The concept comes from the word of God. Deny it and you deny God's word
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2. Sola scriptura was Man-Made theology doctrine made up by Martin Luther.
Nope. It's Biblically based.
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That you and others on the OPP religious forum, are sowing Protestants-satan's heretical Christian discontent.
We are pointing out false doctrine in the Catholic church and that the Catholic church is not Christian.
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3. Luther developed his man-made religious doctrine and taught Man-Made Sola-Scriptura.
Sola Scriptura is no more man made than the Trinity is man made. Neither term is in the Bible yet both are Biblical.
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So Protestant's they could be their own little pope's, to be a self-serving independent interpreter of the Bible and now we have 30,000 plus Protestant denominations and divisional sects...
Divisional? No. You're big on unity but there is unity of belief among most protestants. Catholicism claims their unity is needed but as pointed out before, Muslims and Mormons also have unity and they are wrong too.
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Look where you Protestants have strayed into satan's biblical pit of false religious discontent. Your, BLIND AND CAN-NOT SEE GODS TRUTH . . .
What discontent? We see God's truth. Many false Catholic doctrines have been exposed on this forum by multiple people and with solid Biblical references.
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4. Sola Scriptura is not found in the inspired word of God.
5. Jesus Christ didn't teach Sola Scriptura and Jesus never instructed Sola Scriptura in the New Testament Bible.
5. Jesus Christ didn't teach Sola Scriptura and Jesus never instructed Sola Scriptura in the New Testament Bible.
You've been shown the verses that prove scripture is sufficient numerous times and you still deny God's inerrant word. That's on no one but you.
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6. You can't prove Jesus Taught instructed or spoke sola Scriptura.
You can't prove scripture isn't sufficient. Scripture itself says it is.
Dec 6, 2018 15:55:43 #
Rose42 wrote:
You can't prove scripture isn't sufficient. Scripture itself says it is.
Amen and Amen
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