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Nov 28, 2018 15:16:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Well for me living inland at over 800 feet above sea level & near a large lake that dampers tornados that get close.
No very much.

For those living less that 50 feet above see level very much.
Things will get a lot worse for many before there would be a need for me to be personally concerned.

The word seems to be t that over 40% of the people live at 50 feet or less above sea level.
One way or another almost every pays some thing towards that problem.


Why has there been no noticeable ocean level rise in so many places??

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Nov 28, 2018 15:32:40   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
MatthewlovesAyn wrote:
Amazing how many people (like Floyd) mistake anecdotal for evidential. People like Algore who claim to be doing something by "raising awareness" remind me of the snake oil salesmen of the nineteenth and early twentieth century. Their ingredients just don't work. And his 'carbon footprint' is the size of some small towns.


Have you read or seen the storms or droughts that are taking place.
Pictures are evidential.
Pictures of the damages are evidential.
Measuring sea levels & temperatures are not anecdotal.
Finding rivers of ice melt under the ice packs is evidential.

Going out side on a cold day & checking the weather is anecdotal.
Proving there are cold areas is anecdotal. & not evidential in this case.

And why is this a issue with you?

Let me just say that people like you have nothing really worth listing to.
Adding my name t what you have to say only meaning to berate me shows a lack of respect on your part.
I only wish to return that lack of respect to you & say we are now even.

Saying it is not true is not evidential.

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Nov 28, 2018 15:47:56   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Why has there been no noticeable ocean level rise in so many places??


Like in the middle of the ocean?
Maybe at low tide.
Or when you look at floating ice sheets.

Believe what ever you want.
You really have nothing to offer on this issue.
Bring up something that matters & you have some thing useful to say.

A only said on this issue I don't agree with your conclusions.

There are plenty or news cast that add to the conclusions drawn.

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Nov 28, 2018 15:58:42   #
MatthewlovesAyn Loc: Ohio
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Have you read or seen the storms or droughts that are taking place.
Pictures are evidential.
Pictures of the damages are evidential.
Measuring sea levels & temperatures are not anecdotal.
Finding rivers of ice melt under the ice packs is evidential.

Going out side on a cold day & checking the weather is anecdotal.
Proving there are cold areas is anecdotal. & not evidential in this case.

And why is this a issue with you?

Let me just say that people like you have nothing really worth listing to.
Adding my name t what you have to say only meaning to berate me shows a lack of respect on your part.
I only wish to return that lack of respect to you & say we are now even.

Saying it is not true is not evidential.
Have you read or seen the storms or droughts that ... (show quote)


Respect is something that is earned. I don't crave yours. There was 2 miles of ice over Kansas 20,000 years ago. Arboreal lands in the arctic in days of yore. C*****e c****es. I think you and your ilk want to tax production into non existence. I think you live in a cult of death. What's your goal, Floyd? To live in a cave heated with greasy candles? To take my car and my microwave? To reduce the world population to a couple hundred million? You don't think of fellow humans as assets, you think of them as flies feasting on the earth.

I believe in achievement. I believe in man as a heroic figure. I believe in mutual trade for mutual benefit. Those people that make your cars don't want to live on a poisoned planet any more than you do. If those 60,000,000 children hadn't been murdered in the last 45 years, maybe social security would be flush. I believe that the energy crisis and pollution will be solved by men of production, not whiny little b***hes like Algore and you.

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Nov 28, 2018 16:14:14   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
G****l W*****g is fact... For the last 10,000 years, our climate has been coming out of the last Ice Age... We are in a interglacial Period...

"The earth is currently in an interglacial, and the last glacial period ended about 10,000 years ago. All that remains of the continental ice sheets are the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets and smaller glaciers such as on Baffin Island."

What causes glacial–interglacial cycles? Variations in Earth's orbit through time have changed the amount of solar radiation Earth receives in each season. Interglacial periods tend to happen during times of more intense summer solar radiation in the Northern Hemisphere.

Milankovitch cycles describe the collective effects of changes in the Earth's movements on its climate over thousands of years. The term is named for Serbian geophysicist and astronomer Milutin Milanković.

Is mankinds burning of F****l F**ls contributing to G****l W*****g... Yes! The question is how much? From 97% to 3%. Best solution is try and slow down our contributing it without taking the radical stance like the Kyoto and Paris Agreements where they seem to penalize the United States while giving China and India a pass. If you are told by someone that mankind is causing the problem you are either being lied to or both of you are being conned.

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Nov 28, 2018 17:33:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Like in the middle of the ocean?
Maybe at low tide.
Or when you look at floating ice sheets.

Believe what ever you want.
You really have nothing to offer on this issue.
Bring up something that matters & you have some thing useful to say.

A only said on this issue I don't agree with your conclusions.

There are plenty or news cast that add to the conclusions drawn.


You are a typical l*****t; you see the damage from storms and react emotionally, not thinking. If CO2 from man is NOT the cause, then what do you want mankind to do?

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Nov 28, 2018 17:35:09   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Ferrous wrote:
G****l W*****g is fact... For the last 10,000 years, our climate has been coming out of the last Ice Age... We are in a interglacial Period...

"The earth is currently in an interglacial, and the last glacial period ended about 10,000 years ago. All that remains of the continental ice sheets are the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets and smaller glaciers such as on Baffin Island."

What causes glacial–interglacial cycles? Variations in Earth's orbit through time have changed the amount of solar radiation Earth receives in each season. Interglacial periods tend to happen during times of more intense summer solar radiation in the Northern Hemisphere.

Milankovitch cycles describe the collective effects of changes in the Earth's movements on its climate over thousands of years. The term is named for Serbian geophysicist and astronomer Milutin Milanković.

Is mankinds burning of F****l F**ls contributing to G****l W*****g... Yes! The question is how much? From 97% to 3%. Best solution is try and slow down our contributing it without taking the radical stance like the Kyoto and Paris Agreements where they seem to penalize the United States while giving China and India a pass. If you are told by someone that mankind is causing the problem you are either being lied to or both of you are being conned.
G****l W*****g is fact... For the last 10,000 year... (show quote)


Show us the proof that burning f****l f**ls is the cause of the warming.

Think. If the records show that CO2 increases after warming, then how can it be the cause????

Is this thing on???

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Nov 28, 2018 17:48:13   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Show us the proof that burning f****l f**ls is the cause of the warming.

Think. If the records show that CO2 increases after warming, then how can it be the cause????

Is this thing on???


Not the cause... I already explained we are in an Interglacial Period. Burning F****l f**ls contribute but maybe only about .000000002%. Common sense tells us to not waste our resources and to conserve our wealth. Common sense tells us to not believe what Politicians and Al Gore is telling us.

The biggest rip-off... Carbon Credits. These guys are selling tracts of forests to dimwitted liberals thinking that they can justify their flying around in their private jets and living in their energy wasting mansions.

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Nov 28, 2018 19:08:52   #
Bcon
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Why has there been no noticeable ocean level rise in so many places??


I believe there is c*****e c****e. There has been moms y changes over the eons. No one can explain factually how it is our fault because of f****l f**ls. Volcanoes put more into the atmosphere in one tear than humans do in a lifetime. Everyone to there own beliefs, but when the politicians and others who are pushing this theory have ulterior motives to change lifestyles, I have a hard time believing any of it. Al Gore flies all over in jet planes saying everyone else is at fault, while he gets rich promoting it. It is just another way g*******ts is trying to get America to pay their way. That is my belief, and you will have a hard time changing my mind. It comes right back to “follow the money,”

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Nov 28, 2018 21:42:10   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Bcon wrote:
There has been g****l w*****g and cooling ,for millenia. There is no discernible proof that it is man made. Look to who is pushing this theory, and why. Follow the money for the answer.


just for giggles,if what is posted has been around for millenia? how then do we explain deterioration of the Ozone layer and who has caused it? in ancient and prehistoric times it was a non issue just as the theory and the why as well as the money is ?nice try though. 🤔

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Nov 28, 2018 22:11:26   #
elledee
 
how bout the huge temperature swings hundreds of years ago before industry existed

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Nov 28, 2018 22:33:08   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
elledee wrote:
how bout the huge temperature swings hundreds of years ago before industry existed


this link should explain some: https://phys.org/news/2012-07-pre-industrial-emissions-temperatures.html
can only go so far with a phone.chose above link to make some sense to your query ; there were others.

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Nov 28, 2018 23:23:08   #
debeda
 
MatthewlovesAyn wrote:
I'm afraid I have a much more cynical view of g****l w*****g alarmists than you. I think they are a bunch of wealth redistributing son of a b***hes.


AGREED! Prez Trump DID EXACTLY the right thing in pulling us out of the "Paris Climate accord". You noticed no one ever called it what it was - a world welfare tax!

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Nov 28, 2018 23:26:57   #
debeda
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I also can't help but think that so many in the cable TV world like to hype up the storms to try to increase ratings.


Yeah. We recently (Monday) had a "blizzard" warning. Schools closed, day cares closed, businesses closed, the whole shebang. Couple isolated areas got 10-12 inches. Most got 3 or 4. It's northern Illinois. That's nothing. I got to work just fine in my little Ford fiesta. Cripes.

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Nov 28, 2018 23:29:00   #
debeda
 
Bcon wrote:
There has been g****l w*****g and cooling ,for millenia. There is no discernible proof that it is man made. Look to who is pushing this theory, and why. Follow the money for the answer.


AGREED. Air pollution, yes. We need to guard against that. G****l w*****g? Pfft

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