"Popery is contrary to Christ’s gospel" (Page 2): "I want to address the protestant phobia against Tradition based on their misunderstanding of Scripture. I asked yesterday how often...

Rose42

"I want to address the protestant phobia against Tradition based on their misunderstanding of Scripture. I asked yesterday how often "it is written" to keep to the Traditions and to remember who your teachers (the Apostles) were. The reply said, "none." But that's not true. I believe protestant eyes may sometimes glaze over anything that contradicts their beliefs."

I have just not posted the answer yet.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Rose42 wrote:

"I want to address the protestant phobia against Tradition based on their misunderstanding of Scripture. I asked yesterday how often "it is written" to keep to the Traditions and to remember who your teachers (the Apostles) were. The reply said, "none." But that's not true. I believe protestant eyes may sometimes glaze over anything that contradicts their beliefs."

I have just not posted the answer yet.

Yea......right! Then what did I just answer?

Radiance3

Rose42 wrote:

Are you saying God lied to us when He tells us His... (show quote)

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You are twisting the word of God. It is difficult of less brainer to explain. Here is a very clear explanation.

Christ commanded that his Gospel, His Scriptures, will be handled and passed to His Church the Catholic Universal Church. Christ AUTHORIZED His Church to keep, to teach, to preach, and to continue His Gospel for His people. NO other outlets are allowed to handle this. His commandments are FINAL. No one could change to bypass that.

But your Sola Scriptura without AUTHORITY from God, deceptively used it to preach, and to teach to the people deceptively.

Most of the Protestant Pastors used the Sola Scriptures for merchandise selling to the deceived and misled people. Christ did not like that. Protestants are violating the most important power and order of God.

Conclusion: All Protestants using the Sola to teach and preach are illegally violating the laws of God. Do you understand that? Do you want to justify your illegal acts against God?

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

OK everybody! Time for an attitude check. Is everyone's little fun meter pegging all the way over to the right side. If not, breathe in, breathe out. Repeat!

bahmer

padremike wrote:

OK everybody! Time for an attitude check. Is everyone's little fun meter pegging all the way over to the right side. If not, breathe in, breathe out. Repeat!

My biggest concern is if anyone who is not a christian were to visit any of these sights they would receive a really tilted look at Christianity what it is and what it means and what is the truth. Most would laugh us off and go on their way in the ways of the world and laugh at us. It has been bothering me since yesterday and i think that maybe we should either tone it down some or use the PM to discuss loudly with each other. All though I do really appreciate reading the responses that both sides provide so I am in some kind of quandary over this. While I disagree with Doc110 and Radiance3 as well as padremike which is the more civil of the three I do appreciate his responses. I really agree with Jack, Rose42. Texacan and of course very partial to Zemirah. OK carry one everyone.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

bahmer wrote:

My biggest concern is if anyone who is not a chris... (show quote)

I'm really relieved that heretics can bond together in peace. Don't get too upset at the banter because it's a step above burning one another at the stake like a steak. (That was an intentional play on words FYI)

bahmer

padremike wrote:

I'm really relieved that heretics can bond together in peace. Don't get too upset at the banter because it's a step above burning one another at the stake like a steak. (That was an intentional play on words FYI)

I'm glad that you told me otherwise I might have missed it.

Radiance3

bahmer wrote:

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bahmer quote:
I really agree with Jack, Rose42. Texacan and of course very partial to Zemirah. OK carry one everyone"

That is a good bundle of Solas Scriptura faith believers. However, they are not within the compound of God's authority. So they all belong outside the fence.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

bahmer wrote:

I'm glad that you told me otherwise I might have missed it.

You're just like me, an olde phart, who is about as sharp as a marble - so I know you would not have missed it!

Radiance3

bahmer wrote:

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bahmer, you can disagree all you want, you can memorize all the Sola Scriptures, but still that does not give you the Authority to teach and to preach what you've read.

The teachings of Christ His Gospel, was passed on to the Catholic Church with full authority to keep, to teach, to preach, and to continue with full authority from Christ. This has been consistently obeyed by the Catholic Church for almost 2000 years.
of God's teachings.

Follow the protocol, and hierarchy of God's command in order to be effective within the frameworks of Christ's Gospel.

That is why no matter how Protestants shout and announce the Scriptures, but without following the protocol that God commands, your are still outside the compound.

bahmer

Radiance3 wrote:

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And who taught you about this protocol is this something you learned in catechism class or where did you learn of it.

Radiance3

bahmer wrote:

And who taught you about this protocol is this something you learned in catechism class or where did you learn of it.

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bahmer, I think you are so dumb to understand what protocol is. To simplify for your low brainer, a protocol is the official procedure or system of rules governing affairs .

And this is about the affairs governing God's law and order. God ordered that the Catholic Church has the sole authority to teach, preach, keep, proclaim his teachings. No other outlet must interfere except the Holy Catholic Church which Christ authorized.

This is the protocol here. Follow first God's mandate that only the Catholic Church has the right to preach, to teach, to keep, and to proclaim God's teachings. Unless you follow that, and jumped into other areas away from that authority, your actions are deemed illegal and unenforceable.

Don't be confused. I'm talking here within the context of law and order. But similarly God's command must be the primary authority to be followed in His Gospel.

bahmer

Radiance3 wrote:

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Where is that mandate at Radiance3 is it in the Bible or is it an oral tradition or some other tradition just where is that mandate at I would love to see it and read it myself if that is not to much to ask?

Radiance3

bahmer wrote:

Where is that mandate at Radiance3 is it in the Bible or is it an oral tradition or some other tradition just where is that mandate at I would love to see it and read it myself if that is not to much to ask?

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Okay, bahmer for your sake. let me repeat that Matthew 16:18.

Matthew 16:18
And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

That Christ built His Church thru Peter who was fully authorized to continue. From Christ to Peter, from Peter to the Apostles, and Saints, and Peter brought that authority and set up Christ Church in Rome. With Peter as the 1st Pope, he delegated various authorities to the successors Pope, Cardinals and Bishops, and down the line.

That is why the Catholic Church has all the Scriptures, Sacred Traditions used by the Apostles, and then created that authoritative power of the Magisterium to cover up many areas of the Apostles teachings not embedded in the Gospel. The Magisterium was authorized to make policies and procedures for the Catholic Church. And this was allowed by Christ thru Saint Peter. E.g. the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

bahmer

Radiance3 wrote:

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You are going to stick to this even though it has been explained to you that the rock in that statement is now peter it is Jesus Christ and on Jesus Christ the church is to be built and not on peter. Did a priest tell that to you? or was an even higher up like a cardinal or bishop or maybe even the pope himself? It has been explained that there were two different rocks in that passage one rock was a small skipping rock and that was Peter and the second rock was an immovable mountainside and that rock was Jesus Christ. That second rock which is Jesus is the rock that Jesus built his church on not the little skipping rock that would skip across the water with which was Peter.