Crazy government regs and perhaps a way out of them (Page 3): I heard an interesting twist on the Cloward and Pivin approach they have been using against us for decades. "Just for...

BearK Loc: TN

[quote=Patty]I heard an interesting twist on the Cloward and Pivin approach they have been using against us for decades.

"Just for giggles, try this on for size and fit. Every conservative in the country immediately changes their withholding status to the maximum number of dependants allowable. That simply means less withholding tax and more cash in your pocket as long as you stay on the maximum number of dependants. (Dont spend the extra money youll need it later.)

I thought of sending for a SS# for my dog (he's big enough to count as a person) but I figured I may not get away with it like the IRS agents do & then get a bonus besides.

beammeupscotty Loc: 31°07'50.8"N 87°27'00.8"W

Patty wrote:

I heard an interesting twist on the Cloward and Pivin approach they have been using against us for decades.

"Just for giggles, try this on for size and fit. Every conservative in the country immediately changes their withholding status to the maximum number of dependants allowable. That simply means less withholding tax and more cash in your pocket as long as you stay on the maximum number of dependants. (Dont spend the extra money youll need it later.)

The resultant impact on Federal and State cash flow would be immediate and dramatic. A political and a financial crisis all rolled into one! An overloading of the system by way of a legal option! Tax collections would plummet, state governments would cry foul and aim their anger at a tone deaf, free spending Washington; what to do? The problem for the politicos is vexing as its perfectly legal to change your dependant status and manage the amount of withholding taken from your pay check.

The message delivery is simple, get off the current path, stop the deficit spending, reduce the budget, shrink the scope of government intervention and support a strong dollar policy or we stay right where we are, all 50 million of us claiming 8 dependants each and taking care of the cash ourselves.

Ah, just another exercise in Astroturf they will say. Get off it youll have to pay your taxes eventually yea, not so fast, Homer!

Stage two: on March 15th we all file for extensions on our 2010 taxes. 50 million requests for extensions! Still not getting the message?

Stage three: we wait for the IRS to catch up, send us those nasty letters and then we all ask for tax court hearings, yup, all 50 million of us. Under normal circumstances it can take 8 months to schedule a tax court hearing. 50 million tax court submissions might just, wait for it .overload the system. It could, literally, be years before the tax court even processed the requests let alone schedule the hearings. Spoken from experience! Can you hear me now?

Cloward & Pivin were, for a time at least, highly successful and their strategies are applied to this day by organizations such as ACORN, Rainbow Push Coalition, Labor Unions and others. Perhaps we should attempt to emulate that success in a different direction!"

Read more at http://www.youdecidepolitics.com/2010/04/10/cloward-and-pivin-for-conservatives/#eGt0D6RJvYiqJ2pY.99

I heard an interesting twist on the Cloward and Pi... (show quote)

That might work if everyone got w2s.....i'm self-employed, if i do work for a contractor, they send a 1099. I have to pay the irs quarterly. No way to change dependent status.....glad to see people coming up with new ideas though....keep working on it...we'll come up with something

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Alicia Loc: NYC

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Perhaps you didn't read my reply to Patty. That will give you a more complete story.

Too often the lower classes are "stuck" on the idea of buying garbage which, at one time was cheaper. It no longer is so now it is time for the lower classes - and everyone else - to become inventive. I have learned how to make meals that don't cost more than $1.50. There's a lot that can be done. I can roast 1-1/2 chcken legs, cut them up and saute them with onion and curry powder (or wh**ever spice you like), add water to create a sauce and mix it with brown rice, and make that last for 7 meals. You can add beans and make it go further. (I still attempt to keep the cost under $1.00 just for the helovit. But then, I'm creative as well as frugal.

docwill

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Perhaps you didn't read my reply to Patty. That will give you a more complete story.

Too often the lower classes are "stuck" on the idea of buying garbage which, at one time was cheaper. It no longer is so now it is time for the lower classes - and everyone else - to become inventive. [/quote]

Sure, kudos. And we still have the overworked parent(s) and single folks paying the politically inflated gas and utilities prices which in turn inflate rents and car repairs and etc. for which thoughtful, healthy, alternative recipes are not available.

Alicia Loc: NYC

docwill wrote:

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Perhaps you didn't read my reply to Patty. That will give you a more complete story.

Too often the lower classes are "stuck" on the idea of buying garbage which, at one time was cheaper. It no longer is so now it is time for the lower classes - and everyone else - to become inventive.

Sure, kudos. And we still have the overworked parent(s) and single folks paying the politically inflated gas and utilities prices which in turn inflate rents and car repairs and etc. for which thoughtful, healthy, alternative recipes are not available.[/quote]
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Oh, those recipes are still existing. It just takes a little creativity plus the will. Look, I've been in a position where each month I had to beg charities to pay my utility bill. That was embarassing. So glad I've passed that but not by much. I also have an auto (not a late one, sadly) which I have to keep up. You'd be amazed at the talents of young people in your neighborhood who can work on your auto for a fraction of what it would cost you at a garage.

If you're not living in the boondocks, you are probably within walking distance from a supermarket. Try giving your legs some exercise. You'd be amazed on how much gas you will save in addition to making you healthier.