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Apr 26, 2014 23:09:02   #
betty Loc: Arizona Mountains
 
Homestead wrote:
The issues he's fighting are Constitutional issues.
Because of that, he has a shot at justice.

There are a lot of Americans that are not asleep any more and they've had enough.

FEDERAL PROPERTY
By Mary E. Webster
April 26, 2014
NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Webster/mary107.htm


Here here. This is happening ....land grabs all over the west. This is a wrong..goverment b*m push envolved with radical environments.
I have my where abouts posted...arizona. I see it not on tv

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Apr 27, 2014 02:11:25   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
permafrost wrote:
Zem, your last sentence has some T***h, but the right wing is now a small minority and losing a voice in politics that they should be working to maintain.

I am no strategist, but if the very extreme opinion could be given less coverage, things would be better on a national level. The values which now are seen as only talking points could be very popular. No one is really opposed to fiscal responsibility. Lower taxes, reduced spending, even smaller govt. These are good points for everyone. We would fight over what exactly each should be composed of, but most Americans would approve.
Zem, your last sentence has some T***h, but the ri... (show quote)


permafrost, the problem with believing in concrete values and absolutes is that one cannot drop them, as there would be nothing left of that individual but a hollow worthless shell.

Values like the marriage of one man to one woman, and the sanctity of the life of an unborn child are permanently ingrained.

As the apostle Paul said, we should please God and not man.

Unfortunately, these are the very values that the progressives and media shrilly proclaim are "extreme."

These are the values that label a person radical and far right.

So be it.

God can change the outcomes of e******ns, as the Bible says, "the prayers of the righteous availeth much."

The Almighty can, however, choose to give us what we deserve, a president who reflects the values of too many of his people...

In the present situation, we have a president whose ideology "surpasseth all understanding," including that of all thinking citizenry.

Giving up eternal values to win an e******n equates with giving up eternity for a bowl of porridge.

Pragmatism only travels so far. Eternity is a longer journey.

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Apr 27, 2014 04:37:14   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
SouthernTide wrote:
Homey,
would you take a bullet for the president of the united states?
really, the CURRENT president?
don't run from the question...

just between you and me...i would send the bullet the other way....capieche?

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Apr 27, 2014 05:53:18   #
SouthernTide
 
angery american wrote:
If your viewpoint is through independent eyes....YOU ARE BLIND AS A BAT.............And as far as wedges.....HARRY REID is The biggest WEDGE IN WASHINGTON......Everyone distanced themselves because his statement was true...It was just phrased in a way that was offensive....And like all cowards they had rather throw stones than defend an honest statement...RATEINGS>>>>


...I am happy to educate you. Bats actually are not blind. They do use echo location to fly when eyesight does not function in conditions of low light.

soooo.... if you wish to apppear educated, you may want to drop that phrase from your rhetoric...

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Apr 27, 2014 05:58:28   #
SouthernTide
 
cesspool jones wrote:
just between you and me...i would send the bullet the other way....capieche?


...yes, and there is my point. you actually advocate violence against america and humanity. You are no patriot Lee Harveyl, but should fit into the category of threats to the US...

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Apr 27, 2014 06:07:36   #
SouthernTide
 
Zemirah wrote:
permafrost, the problem with believing in concrete values and absolutes is that one cannot drop them, as there would be nothing left of that individual but a hollow worthless shell.

Values like the marriage of one man to one woman, and the sanctity of the life of an unborn child are permanently ingrained.

As the apostle Paul said, we should please God and not man.

Unfortunately, these are the very values that the progressives and media shrilly proclaim are "extreme."

These are the values that label a person radical and far right.

So be it.

God can change the outcomes of e******ns, as the Bible says, "the prayers of the righteous availeth much."

The Almighty can, however, choose to give us what we deserve, a president who reflects the values of too many of his people...

In the present situation, we have a president whose ideology "surpasseth all understanding," including that of all thinking citizenry.

Giving up eternal values to win an e******n equates with giving up eternity for a bowl of porridge.

Pragmatism only travels so far. Eternity is a longer journey.
permafrost, the problem with believing in concrete... (show quote)



I agree with Permafrost on this one. Less coverage of the extreme views. There was a point in our society where both parties worked together for the good of America. That no longer exists as the media and talking heads appear to slaughter anyone in the middle, forcing the argument between extremes.

I believe this is what is damaging our country, with the moderate voices being squelched.

Regarding the bible Z, I actually understand about core values. the t***h is that jesus was very much in the liberal camp, and if he came back today, many on the extreme right would label him as a socialist...

Does that sound like the pathway to eternity?

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Apr 27, 2014 06:11:08   #
SouthernTide
 
Homestead wrote:
The issues he's fighting are Constitutional issues.
Because of that, he has a shot at justice.

There are a lot of Americans that are not asleep any more and they've had enough.

FEDERAL PROPERTY
By Mary E. Webster
April 26, 2014
NewsWithViews.com
http://www.newswithviews.com/Webster/mary107.htm



You must have h**ed George Washington...

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Apr 27, 2014 09:57:53   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Liberal camp? I hardly believe he'd be in either camp, the k*****g of unborn children for convenience was hardly God's way.



SouthernTide wrote:
I agree with Permafrost on this one. Less coverage of the extreme views. There was a point in our society where both parties worked together for the good of America. That no longer exists as the media and talking heads appear to slaughter anyone in the middle, forcing the argument between extremes.

I believe this is what is damaging our country, with the moderate voices being squelched.

Regarding the bible Z, I actually understand about core values. the t***h is that jesus was very much in the liberal camp, and if he came back today, many on the extreme right would label him as a socialist...

Does that sound like the pathway to eternity?
I agree with Permafrost on this one. Less coverag... (show quote)

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Apr 27, 2014 10:10:30   #
vernon
 
BoJester wrote:
Good points, and the answer is a resounding yes.




bo after all this carring on about bundy and the republicans just what do you have to say about the big demorat sterling and.now sterling said cant be misconstrued he is a r****t.now let me hear a rant about the r****t demorats, you know the party that invented r****m,or are you going to just make excuses for them.

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Apr 28, 2014 01:46:06   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
SouthernTide wrote:
I agree with Permafrost on this one. Less coverage of the extreme views. There was a point in our society where both parties worked together for the good of America. That no longer exists as the media and talking heads appear to slaughter anyone in the middle, forcing the argument between extremes.

I believe this is what is damaging our country, with the moderate voices being squelched.

Regarding the bible Z, I actually understand about core values. the t***h is that jesus was very much in the liberal camp, and if he came back today, many on the extreme right would label him as a socialist...

Does that sound like the pathway to eternity?
I agree with Permafrost on this one. Less coverag... (show quote)


No, Southern, it sounds like "another gospel," different from the one and only taught by Jesus Christ.

Christians are instructed to defend the one original gospel: "Contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints..." Jude 1:3

The alliances you make on earth and the question of with whom you choose to align yourself is a moot point to me.

Galatians 1:6, 8-10: "I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel;

"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!

"As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

"For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ."

Please quote the Bible addresses: chapter and verse that demonstrate Jesus' "liberalism."

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Apr 28, 2014 03:39:58   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
emarine wrote:
T***hfully no.... our system was never perfect and will never be perfect.... a constitutional republic is an experiment not tried before, it is ever evolving.... for the right to claim we have chaos is a poor excuse for not getting your way, like it or not we share this country with many others who have wants and needs that may differ from yours, The claim to " take our country back" is one of the most foolish, selfish, self centered comments to date, you are trying to take back something you never had, As an American citizen all you have is the right to obey the laws of this land... Other wise you can leave and go some where better or prison , you are free to choose what you want to do, everything else you obey the law and pay your way.
T***hfully no.... our system was never perfect and... (show quote)


emarine, "We the People" own this land. The government is our government. We do not belong to the government.

The land I own has been in my family since the 1850s. I am an individual, as is each American citizen, not to be herded or stampeded into going anywhere, and through God's grace, I have always "paid my way."

Cliven Bundy, as did his ancestors before him, did everything in his power to obey the "laws" of this land.

If obeying the law was the issue at stake, where are the fifty one (51) other ranchers who were unable to contest the government's heavy hand, and were forced to leave the area?

This was and is the government's plan for Cliven Bundy.

The mistake the elitist progressives have made is in foolishly believing they can "evolve" the Constitution of the United States to a wiser, more high minded place than our founding fathers, by forcing their will upon the American people as though they are like sheep.

As an American, I, as do my fellow citizens, have a right to have my opinion and preferences considered before my Congress changes or establishes any new law, and not by jamming unwanted and unnecessary laws through by slight of hand in the dark of the night.

Those progressives, both Democrat and Republican, who arrogantly and mistakenly believe themselves to be worthy of ruling over the so called "common men" within our nation, have brought upon us all utter chaos, through a utopian inability to see themselves as they are, and the world as it is.

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Apr 29, 2014 08:31:52   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
It really doesn't matter if you are black, white, brown, red, yellow, or baby pig pink - get over it! Our government is deliberately trying to divide us. I believe their intent is to start a race war, declare martial law, disarm everyone (they're working on that one hard) ---AND THEN make all of us their s***es.

If you trust our government you have got to be dumber than a doorknob. It's BOTH parties, they are in bed together, both working at 'divide and conquer.' The powers behind them (the big banks and bankers) have all the money they want - it has now risen to ultimate power, they want to own everything - including YOU.

The moderate Democrats and more Libertarian Republicans should start a party - I do believe that group still cares about America as a country. The rest of them - are crooks and thieves, they make the felons in prison look like saints. This last group will do all they can to discredit the others.

Before cutting the 'don't ask, don't tell' and allowing women to be part of a fighting unit, our military did a good job at having different ethnicities work well together. That is something we had better start applying in our general communities. Before you accuse me of being a chauvinist, let me tell you I am a woman - one with common sense. It's time to cut the biased rhetoric and work at finding common ground with common sense.

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Apr 29, 2014 11:53:02   #
vernon
 
SouthernTide wrote:
...yes, and there is my point. you actually advocate violence against america and humanity. You are no patriot Lee Harveyl, but should fit into the category of threats to the US...



you were certanily trying that but you failed.just what is wrong with you people ?

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Apr 29, 2014 11:57:04   #
vernon
 
Homestead wrote:
"Who would I take a bullet for?"

Most people would say, their mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter or best friend.

I suspect that your the type that would not only not jump to protect the innocent life of another, but, would throw your own mother in the path of a bullet to say your own life.

Your mind can't be changed, because, your an ignorant fool that lacks reasoning, common sense and intellectual honesty.



permafrost your problem was you watched bundy say something ,but you didnt listen to what he said.and this is just the way the left works they take a word out of a paragraph and run with it.

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