One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Why do Democrats and Republicans see Kavanaugh in such different ways?
Page <<first <prev 11 of 13 next> last>>
Oct 11, 2018 03:26:53   #
rumitoid
 
JoyV wrote:
Look back.

"JoyV wrote:
Except due process is not a privilege, let alone a privilege for the few. Due process is for the rich and poor, the majority and minority. For all races, g****rs, for the religious of any religion or none, for those of any political party, or any other group you might identify with. DUE PROCESS! It is a RIGHT! Not a privilege!

Singularity wrote:
Obviously you have never been poor."

Although due process is not dependent on your financial state. How good a lawyer you may have is usually related to your financial state. But due process (innocent until proven guilty) is not relegated to the rich.
Look back. br br "JoyV wrote: br Except due ... (show quote)


Of course it is and always has been for the rich. And to the White Privileged. Think Deep South circa between 1870 to 1960.

Reply
Oct 11, 2018 03:46:10   #
Idaho
 
rumitoid wrote:
Of course it is and always has been for the rich. And to the White Privileged. Think Deep South circa between 1870 to 1960.


Think the Bundy case - as a more recent example.

Great flyover country deplorable put in an invidious position by a corrupt high profile Dem politician.

Injustice plays out in many spheres, but my experience over my entire life has been that corruption sits much heavier on the side of the Dems than on the conservative side.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lV7LJzAHKKc&feature=youtu.be

Government corruption makes my blood boil - as near as I can tell, Obama’s administration was as corrupt as we have ever seen. Trump, for all his faults that are flung around by the Dems and MSM - is genuinely trying to clean up the corruption.

That’s what will bring the red tsunami in Nov.

Please Dems, keep being loud mouthed, uncivil, r**ting, protesting, showing your corruption and ‘victimhood’ for v**ers to see. Have Pelosi, Waters and Holder keep publicising the actions and philosophies that Deplorables h**e - right up until 1st week of November.

Let’s swell the height of the red wave and leave no one in any doubt the America is being put back on the right track. The Conservative track.









Reply
Oct 11, 2018 11:06:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Russia was proven, by nine US Intelligence Agencies and several foreign ones, to have helped. That is important.


Russia's meme's and bot talkers are much more effective, apparently, than the l*****ts meme's and Twitter bangers!

Reply
 
 
Oct 11, 2018 11:07:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Of course it is and always has been for the rich. And to the White Privileged. Think Deep South circa between 1870 to 1960.


So, it's been 1960 for 58 years now!

Reply
Oct 11, 2018 11:14:07   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Idaho wrote:
Think the Bundy case - as a more recent example.

Great flyover country deplorable put in an invidious position by a corrupt high profile Dem politician.

Injustice plays out in many spheres, but my experience over my entire life has been that corruption sits much heavier on the side of the Dems than on the conservative side.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lV7LJzAHKKc&feature=youtu.be

Government corruption makes my blood boil - as near as I can tell, Obama’s administration was as corrupt as we have ever seen. Trump, for all his faults that are flung around by the Dems and MSM - is genuinely trying to clean up the corruption.

That’s what will bring the red tsunami in Nov.

Please Dems, keep being loud mouthed, uncivil, r**ting, protesting, showing your corruption and ‘victimhood’ for v**ers to see. Have Pelosi, Waters and Holder keep publicising the actions and philosophies that Deplorables h**e - right up until 1st week of November.

Let’s swell the height of the red wave and leave no one in any doubt the America is being put back on the right track. The Conservative track.
Think the Bundy case - as a more recent example. b... (show quote)


These 6 Corporations Control 90% Of The Media In America;
http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

For Americans to get another perspective, and be aware of blacked out news; they must break away from the controlled "MSM".

Reply
Oct 11, 2018 11:30:24   #
son of witless
 
Singularity wrote:
I was looking for a liberal leaning examination of the issue, as you guys seem to really want to debate the topic with me taking the liberal stance. Why don't we all look at this guy's analysis and see where each our own actually differ from his and each other's?

We could go at it by maelstrom and excitedly type whole reams of responses confusedly at once, or we could try a disciplined approach of baby steps to digest it slowly.

If several agree to use this video, and no one has strong objections to the thread topic, (why partisans have differing views on Kavenaugh) being subsumed in this activity, why not start watching it and stop at the first point with which you disagree. Then post an explanation of the u-tuber's point followed by your point(s) of disagreement and supporting opinions/evidence. Stop after one post, each, on this assignment to let others catch up, and when stuff slows down, then we can cross talk about what has come up, and if it's a workable strategy and we are having fun, we could then continue and each post the first thing we agree with the u-tube guy about.....

Shall we agree anyone can drop out or in or back in at will? Some of you guys have jobs, right?

So, the mission, if you should accept, is a several step process, and I'm pretty toasted, so I'll be sure to embarrass myself by messing up...

You guys may laugh and tease....

We will have to keep each other on track. I'll accept any chastisement good naturedly, of course, as I've got a good natural buffer going....

Laissez les bons temps rouler?


https://youtu.be/Yl1VYF0avk4
I was looking for a liberal leaning examination of... (show quote)


As I listened to this video I can see that it is merely a clever way to smear Kavanaugh with doubt. I reject your pre conditions of debate.

Reply
Oct 11, 2018 11:56:24   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
son of witless wrote:
As I listened to this video I can see that it is merely a clever way to smear Kavanaugh with doubt. I reject your pre conditions of debate.


I got through just a bit of this. It sounds reasonable but only because it sounds reasonable. And now he faces charges of judicial misconduct based upon what some see a behavior beneath a "judge" during the hearing. Preposterous. People see judges as being such upright and calm individuals and yet, having been in many a court room I can say, without question, judges only present this as a pretense. The SCOTUS judges have a job which is way different than other judges. It's an intellectual position based upon interpreting the constitution as it relates to the cases before them. I saw nothing about Kavanaugh during the hearing that was "beneath" a judge; rather, I saw a human being being subjected to outrageous accusations, nothing short of criminal accusations, defending his honor. Lets be hones, had he remained calm, the criticism would have been his lack of emotion or his seeming ambivalence to the "charges;" that he would have been much more angry had he actually not been "guilty" of the accusations.

There was not a shred of democratic honesty in that hearing, not one shred. And now they continue. I continue to believe that his was a defining moment for the democrats. They will pay dearly for it in November, I think!

Reply
 
 
Oct 11, 2018 12:30:05   #
JoyV
 
rumitoid wrote:
Of course it is and always has been for the rich. And to the White Privileged. Think Deep South circa between 1870 to 1960.


Yup. Those Democrats had the south sown up tight back then.
"The Solid South or Southern bloc was the e*******l v****g bloc of the states of the Southern United States for issues that were regarded as particularly important to the interests of Democrats in the southern states. The Southern bloc existed especially between the end of Reconstruction in 1877 and the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964. During this period, the Democratic Party controlled state legislatures; most local and state officeholders in the South were Democrats, as were federal politicians elected from these states. Southern Democrats disenfranchised b****s in every state of the former Confederacy at the turn of the 20th century. This resulted essentially in a one-party system, in which a candidate's victory in Democratic primary e******ns was tantamount to e******n to the office itself. White primaries were another means that the Democrats used to consolidate their political power, excluding b****s from v****g in primaries.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_South

Never could understand why the majority of b****s joined the party of the s***e owners and Jim Crow.

Reply
Oct 11, 2018 12:31:23   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I got through just a bit of this. It sounds reasonable but only because it sounds reasonable. And now he faces charges of judicial misconduct based upon what some see a behavior beneath a "judge" during the hearing. Preposterous. People see judges as being such upright and calm individuals and yet, having been in many a court room I can say, without question, judges only present this as a pretense. The SCOTUS judges have a job which is way different than other judges. It's an intellectual position based upon interpreting the constitution as it relates to the cases before them. I saw nothing about Kavanaugh during the hearing that was "beneath" a judge; rather, I saw a human being being subjected to outrageous accusations, nothing short of criminal accusations, defending his honor. Lets be hones, had he remained calm, the criticism would have been his lack of emotion or his seeming ambivalence to the "charges;" that he would have been much more angry had he actually not been "guilty" of the accusations.

There was not a shred of democratic honesty in that hearing, not one shred. And now they continue. I continue to believe that his was a defining moment for the democrats. They will pay dearly for it in November, I think!
I got through just a bit of this. It sounds reaso... (show quote)


"There was not a shred of democratic honesty in that hearing, not one shred. And now they continue. I continue to believe that his was a defining moment for the democrats. They will pay dearly for it in November, I think!" - nwtk2007


The Democrats should pay BIG time.

Reply
Oct 11, 2018 17:58:45   #
son of witless
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I got through just a bit of this. It sounds reasonable but only because it sounds reasonable. And now he faces charges of judicial misconduct based upon what some see a behavior beneath a "judge" during the hearing. Preposterous. People see judges as being such upright and calm individuals and yet, having been in many a court room I can say, without question, judges only present this as a pretense. The SCOTUS judges have a job which is way different than other judges. It's an intellectual position based upon interpreting the constitution as it relates to the cases before them. I saw nothing about Kavanaugh during the hearing that was "beneath" a judge; rather, I saw a human being being subjected to outrageous accusations, nothing short of criminal accusations, defending his honor. Lets be hones, had he remained calm, the criticism would have been his lack of emotion or his seeming ambivalence to the "charges;" that he would have been much more angry had he actually not been "guilty" of the accusations.

There was not a shred of democratic honesty in that hearing, not one shred. And now they continue. I continue to believe that his was a defining moment for the democrats. They will pay dearly for it in November, I think!
I got through just a bit of this. It sounds reaso... (show quote)


This was a debate trap. The anti Kavanaugh troops want to set the rules of debate so they cannot lose.

Reply
Oct 18, 2018 13:04:16   #
Singularity
 
son of witless wrote:
This was a debate trap. The anti Kavanaugh troops want to set the rules of debate so they cannot lose.


Well, this is awkward. You guys seemed eager to debate l*****t talking points, appearing to attribute me as the origin of said notions?! I chose the guy with left leaning claims so you could refute those left leaning notions you disagree with.

That process is, technically, a debate. I offered a suggestion for fairly presenting each other's views and objections.

All of a sudden now, you won't be trapped into debate, you say.

Well, then.

Okay.

Bye.

Reply
 
 
Oct 18, 2018 13:38:06   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Idaho wrote:
SO THAT EXPLAINS IT! City dwellers are inherently likely to have more mental illness than fly-over Deplorables. I knew there must be a more logical explanation behind the pattern on this map!


https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/10/11/t1-59420-17_4bfc_933b_a613b45e0fce.jpg

Reply
Oct 18, 2018 14:03:55   #
Singularity
 
eagleye13 wrote:
https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2018/10/11/t1-59420-17_4bfc_933b_a613b45e0fce.jpg

Figure 1. Any mental illness in the past year among people aged 18 or older, by state: percentages, annual averages

Source: SAMHSA, Center for Behavioral Health Statistics and Quality, National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), 2012 to 2014.

Regional Estimates of Any Mental Illness

https://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/report_3189/ShortReport-3189.html



Reply
Oct 18, 2018 14:11:36   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Singularity wrote:
Figure 1. Any mental illness in the past year among people aged 18 or older, by state: percentages, annual averages

Source: SAMHSA, Center for Behavioral Health Statistics and Quality, National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), 2012 to 2014.

Regional Estimates of Any Mental Illness

https://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/report_3189/ShortReport-3189.html


your point, Singularity?
What state/institution do you reside in?

Reply
Oct 18, 2018 14:40:47   #
Singularity
 
eagleye13 wrote:
your point, Singularity?
What state/institution do you reside in?

First, elucidate what point you intended for that rudy, cartoonized version of the USA to make?

That "City dwellers are inherently (more) likely to have more mental illness than fly-over Deplorables." ?!?

My figure is the actual, nearly present day depiction of incidence of mental illness per geographic regions in the USA.

Compare and contrast and draw your own conclusions.

My point: Actual empiric research is better than cartoons pulled from the internet's ass or unwarranted conclusions drawn from very old preliminary research on animal behaviors in an unnatural laboratory environment, extrapolated to human society.

I reside at home, with family, in a flyover state capital city. I used to publish bio info with my avatar along with my own face, but I have been "in hiding" due to certain OPP member's past behaviors, which I found disconcerting and unsettling.

Reply
Page <<first <prev 11 of 13 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.