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Oct 9, 2018 22:23:24   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Seth wrote:
Typhoons aren't fun unless you're a roller coaster fan with a death wish. When I was in the U.S. Coast Guard many decades ago, I had the pleasure of experiencing one while on a WestPac.


The sea was originally called Chaos. A typhoon fits that to a tee.

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Oct 9, 2018 22:26:00   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Peewee wrote:
Padre, you're supposed to be the head honcho in the home, did you abdicate to mob rule? Pitiful, plumb, pitiful. Just kidding, a great excuse to see the kids again and they had to beg you. Nice, ha.

Never been in a typhoon. I can live w/o that experience.

Padre, you're supposed to be the head honcho in th... (show quote)


You shame me with the T***h my friend, I chickened out.

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Oct 9, 2018 22:39:27   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
padremike wrote:
You shame me with the T***h my friend, I chickened out.


You're all safe and sound and that's the main thing. Always keep the main things, the main things.


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Oct 9, 2018 23:15:37   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
tactful wrote:
1ST - Don't shoot the messenger,Thanks!
I got this in a news feed that seemed awfully unclear so I investigated.
this is the result of said investigation:
really getting s**k of this,should have been viewed by the committee prior IMO along with the 650 law professors who signed a similar document at both Yale and Harvard ( where he taught).

ON THE BENCH
Brett Kavanaugh Cannot Have It Both Ways

As the former dean of Yale Law School, I’m shocked by the judge’s partisan turn.

By ROBERT POST

October 06, 2018


Brett Kavanaugh and I differ on most fundamental questions of constitutional law. Nevertheless, as a former dean of the institution where he received his law degree, I have withheld comment on the merits of his appointment. I am proud of the rich diversity of views that Yale Law School has produced.

Over the past decade, Kavanaugh has been a casual acquaintance. He seemed a gentle, quiet, reserved man, always solicitous of the dignity of his position as a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. It was therefore with something approaching unbelief that I heard his speech after Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony.

With calculation and sk**l, Kavanaugh stoked the fires of partisan rage and male entitlement. He had apparently concluded that the only way he could rally Republican support was by painting himself as the victim of a political hit job. He therefore offered a witches’ brew of vicious unfounded charges, alleging that Democratic members of the Senate Judicial Committee were pursuing a vendetta on behalf of the Clintons. If we expect judges to reach conclusions based solely on reliable evidence, Kavanaugh’s savage and bitter attack demonstrated exactly the opposite sensibility.

I was shell-shocked. This was not the Brett Kavanaugh I thought I knew. Having come so close to confirmation, Kavanaugh apparently cared more about his promotion than about preserving the dignity of the Supreme Court he aspired to join. Even if he sought to defend his honor as a husband and father, his unbalanced rantings about political persecution were so utterly inconsistent with the dispassionate temperament we expect from judges that one had to conclude that he had chosen ambition over professionalism.

His performance is indelibly etched in the public mind. For as long as Kavanaugh sits on the court, he will remain a symbol of partisan anger, a haunting reminder that behind the smiling face of judicial benevolence lies the force of an urgent will to power. No one who felt the force of that anger could possibly believe that Kavanaugh might actually be a detached and impartial judge. Each and every Republican who v**es for Kavanaugh, therefore, effectively announces that they care more about controlling the Supreme Court than they do about the legitimacy of the court itself. There will be hell to pay.

I was in the end prompted to write this essay because, on Thursday, Kavanaugh published a remarkable op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in which he apologized for his rash words and attempted to reclaim for himself the “independence and impartiality” so necessary for judges. But judicial temperament is not like a mask that can be put on or taken off at will. Judicial temperament is more than skin-deep. It is part of the DNA of a person, as is well illustrated by Merrick Garland, who never once descended to the partisan rancor of Kavanaugh, despite the Senate’s refusal even to dignify his nomination with a hearing.

Judge Kavanaugh cannot have it both ways. He cannot gain confirmation by unleashing partisan fury while simultaneously claiming that he possesses a judicial and impartial temperament. If Kavanaugh really cared about the integrity and independence of the Supreme Court, he would even now withdraw from consideration.

But I see no evidence that he is about to withdraw. Kavanaugh will thus join the court as the black-robed embodiment of raw partisan power inconsistent with any ideal of an impartial judiciary. As the court moves to the right to accommodate Trump’s appointments, Kavanaugh will inevitably become the focus of distrust and mobilization. His very presence will undermine the court’s claim to legitimacy; it will damage the nation’s commitment to the rule of law. It will be an American tragedy.


Robert Post is Sterling professor at Yale Law School. This article is adapted from its original version, which appeared on the blog Take Care
1ST - Don't shoot the messenger,Thanks! br I got t... (show quote)



So lets recap, since you people's bulls**t slander attacks did not work, now you want to say he does not have the temperament to be a judge, And he is also a white male which disqualifies him?

WTF is wrong with you people? You destroy him, his wife, his children (and celebrate it), you give him and his family death threats, along with other political opponents and you don't expect to get a reaction? You shoot up a bunch of political opponents playing baseball. You attack a Senator in his own yard! Hahahaha. You people are going to burn!

Let me enlighten you, you people have pushed far enough! In the conservative circles I am associated with, its all I am hearing! You and your politicians will be receiving the exact same treatment you have been putting out! It will be your politicians getting harrased in the streets, it will be you being confronted for YOUR political views! This country is finished, tbere will be no reconciliation between tbe two parties. Its over! You will be harrased and if you continue with your threats, you will be beaten, as we will stand our ground against your assaults. Our calm demeanor will give way to extreme violence against you and your socialist party. We are very proficient with our weapons and we are even better hand to hand! You people want a Civil war, its pretty much at your door step after tge s**t show you people put on tbe last few weeks!

Be careful for what you wish for.

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Oct 10, 2018 00:31:08   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
vettelover wrote:
So lets recap, since you people's bulls**t slander attacks did not work, now you want to say he does not have the temperament to be a judge, And he is also a white male which disqualifies him?

WTF is wrong with you people? You destroy him, his wife, his children (and celebrate it), you give him and his family death threats, along with other political opponents and you don't expect to get a reaction? You shoot up a bunch of political opponents playing baseball. You attack a Senator in his own yard! Hahahaha. You people are going to burn!

Let me enlighten you, you people have pushed far enough! In the conservative circles I am associated with, its all I am hearing! You and your politicians will be receiving the exact same treatment you have been putting out! It will be your politicians getting harrased in the streets, it will be you being confronted for YOUR political views! This country is finished, tbere will be no reconciliation between tbe two parties. Its over! You will be harrased and if you continue with your threats, you will be beaten, as we will stand our ground against your assaults. Our calm demeanor will give way to extreme violence against you and your socialist party. We are very proficient with our weapons and we are even better hand to hand! You people want a Civil war, its pretty much at your door step after tge s**t show you people put on tbe last few weeks!

Be careful for what you wish for.
So lets recap, since you people's bulls**t slander... (show quote)


you want to recap? simply put it is over kaput,finee ' ,done( if I could undo it I would in a heartbeat but then again no I stand by my convictions).you shot the messenger and now you're spewing threats and H**e.Why? all that was done was research on an iffy article,hence the topic( read when it was started and what the first line says).it doesn't seem your calm demeanor at all!doubt you'd know calm if it bit you honestly.I've seen a lot of posts and topics along with controversial talking points that most times have a h**e theme against someone else? why all the venom and h**e?from what you've written/ posted it reminds me of folks that pull their skin so tight that their @ss winds up on their head. definition of asshat.
while you assert that the country is finished that shows that you see the cup half empty instead of full.a real good altitude to have. Not. I cater to no party left or right,when you and your ilk come knocking or what have you surprises await. I do not make threats,not my style,I do make promises however.for the record I don't normally write or include things like the definition above,also not my style.simply remember the topic was started upon a search or quest for facts and t***h,nothing more,nothing less which basically undercuts the sadness you elude to and it was.
speaking for myself and probably others while what you wrote has merit and t***h it paints an ugly picture. I especially/ We don't get what you're driving at or any reason for attacking the masses seriously. 😳 end of story.
never heard or saw any celebrating about anything that did go wrong by anyone for any reason.it is sad actually along with unbecoming.
have a groovy day 😉

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Oct 10, 2018 02:45:51   #
maximus Loc: Chattanooga, Tennessee
 
tactful wrote:
1ST - Don't shoot the messenger,Thanks!
I got this in a news feed that seemed awfully unclear so I investigated.
this is the result of said investigation:
really getting s**k of this,should have been viewed by the committee prior IMO along with the 650 law professors who signed a similar document at both Yale and Harvard ( where he taught).

ON THE BENCH
Brett Kavanaugh Cannot Have It Both Ways

As the former dean of Yale Law School, I’m shocked by the judge’s partisan turn.

By ROBERT POST

October 06, 2018


Brett Kavanaugh and I differ on most fundamental questions of constitutional law. Nevertheless, as a former dean of the institution where he received his law degree, I have withheld comment on the merits of his appointment. I am proud of the rich diversity of views that Yale Law School has produced.

Over the past decade, Kavanaugh has been a casual acquaintance. He seemed a gentle, quiet, reserved man, always solicitous of the dignity of his position as a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. It was therefore with something approaching unbelief that I heard his speech after Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony.

With calculation and sk**l, Kavanaugh stoked the fires of partisan rage and male entitlement. He had apparently concluded that the only way he could rally Republican support was by painting himself as the victim of a political hit job. He therefore offered a witches’ brew of vicious unfounded charges, alleging that Democratic members of the Senate Judicial Committee were pursuing a vendetta on behalf of the Clintons. If we expect judges to reach conclusions based solely on reliable evidence, Kavanaugh’s savage and bitter attack demonstrated exactly the opposite sensibility.

I was shell-shocked. This was not the Brett Kavanaugh I thought I knew. Having come so close to confirmation, Kavanaugh apparently cared more about his promotion than about preserving the dignity of the Supreme Court he aspired to join. Even if he sought to defend his honor as a husband and father, his unbalanced rantings about political persecution were so utterly inconsistent with the dispassionate temperament we expect from judges that one had to conclude that he had chosen ambition over professionalism.

His performance is indelibly etched in the public mind. For as long as Kavanaugh sits on the court, he will remain a symbol of partisan anger, a haunting reminder that behind the smiling face of judicial benevolence lies the force of an urgent will to power. No one who felt the force of that anger could possibly believe that Kavanaugh might actually be a detached and impartial judge. Each and every Republican who v**es for Kavanaugh, therefore, effectively announces that they care more about controlling the Supreme Court than they do about the legitimacy of the court itself. There will be hell to pay.

I was in the end prompted to write this essay because, on Thursday, Kavanaugh published a remarkable op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in which he apologized for his rash words and attempted to reclaim for himself the “independence and impartiality” so necessary for judges. But judicial temperament is not like a mask that can be put on or taken off at will. Judicial temperament is more than skin-deep. It is part of the DNA of a person, as is well illustrated by Merrick Garland, who never once descended to the partisan rancor of Kavanaugh, despite the Senate’s refusal even to dignify his nomination with a hearing.

Judge Kavanaugh cannot have it both ways. He cannot gain confirmation by unleashing partisan fury while simultaneously claiming that he possesses a judicial and impartial temperament. If Kavanaugh really cared about the integrity and independence of the Supreme Court, he would even now withdraw from consideration.

But I see no evidence that he is about to withdraw. Kavanaugh will thus join the court as the black-robed embodiment of raw partisan power inconsistent with any ideal of an impartial judiciary. As the court moves to the right to accommodate Trump’s appointments, Kavanaugh will inevitably become the focus of distrust and mobilization. His very presence will undermine the court’s claim to legitimacy; it will damage the nation’s commitment to the rule of law. It will be an American tragedy.


Robert Post is Sterling professor at Yale Law School. This article is adapted from its original version, which appeared on the blog Take Care
1ST - Don't shoot the messenger,Thanks! br I got t... (show quote)



IT WAS A POLITICAL HIT JOB.

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Oct 10, 2018 05:17:15   #
alleycat313
 
This man has every right to his opinion, just as you or I. However, due to his experience as a lawyer, a judge, and a professor of law at one of our most prestigious university law schools, I think his opinion counts a little more than yours or mine. He has personally known Kavanaugh for years, and is in a better position to judge whether he should have been confirmed.

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Oct 10, 2018 06:31:47   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
A huge historical event just happened. America achieved the first conservative dominated Supreme Court in 50 years.

Republicans better figure out how important this was, and v**e in the November e******ns to block Democrat impeachment attempts.


Casualty Lists From the Kavanaugh Battle
By Patrick J. Buchanan
https://lewrockwell.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6ad24f4cd1574f1f7b8a0a03a&id=d1a77574cc&e=ac767b1a94

After a 50-year siege, the great strategic fortress of liberalism has fallen. With the elevation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh, the Supreme Court seems secure for constitutionalism — perhaps for decades.

The shrieks from the gallery of the Senate chamber as the v**e came in on Saturday, and the sight of that bawling mob clawing at the doors of the Supreme Court as the new justice took his oath, confirm it.

The Democratic Party has sustained a historic defeat.

And the triumph is President Trump’s.

To unite the party whose nomination he had won, Donald Trump pledged to select his high court nominees from lists prepared by such judicial conservatives as the Federalist Society. He kept his word and, in the battle for Kavanaugh, he led from the front, even mocking the credibility of the primary accuser, Christine Blasey Ford.


Trump has achieved what every GOP president has hoped to do since the summer of ’68, when a small group of GOP senators, led by Bob Griffin of Michigan, frustrated and then foiled a LBJ-Earl Warren plot to elevate LBJ crony Abe Fortas to chief justice in order to keep a future President Nixon from naming Warren’s successor.

Sharing the honors with Trump is Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Throughout 2016, McConnell took heat for refusing to hold a hearing on Barack Obama’s nominee, Judge Merrick Garland, to fill the chair of Justice Antonin Scalia, who had died earlier that year.

In 2017, McConnell used Harry Reid’s “nuclear option” to end filibusters for Supreme Court nominations, and then got Judge Neil Gorsuch confirmed 54-45.

Last week, in one of the closest and most brutal court battles in Senate history, McConnell kept his troops united, losing only Sen. Lisa Murkowski, to put Kavanaugh on the court by 50-48. McConnell will enter the history books as the Senate architect of the recapture of the Supreme Court for constitutionalism.

This was a huge victory for conservatism and for the Republican Party. And the presence on the court of octogenarian liberals Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, both appointed by Bill Clinton, suggests that McConnell may have an opportunity to ensure the endurance of his great achievement.


The ferocity and ugliness of the attacks on Kavanaugh united Republicans to stand as one against what a savage Senate minority was trying to do to k**l the nomination. And at battle’s end, the GOP is more energized than it has been all year for this fall’s e******n.

How united is the GOP? Conservatives are hailing the contributions of Sens. Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins, who delivered a masterful summation of the Kavanaugh case Saturday afternoon.

For the Democratic Party, the Kavanaugh battle was the Little Bighorn, as seen from General Custer’s point of view.

Unable to derail the judge during the regular confirmation process, they lay in the weeds until it was over, and then sandbagged the judge by leaking to The Washington Post a confidential letter Dr. Ford did not want released.

They thus forced a public hearing of charges of attempted rape against a nominee, demanded the FBI investigate all charges of sexual misconduct when Kavanaugh was a teenager, and ended up losing anyway.

Then the Dems watched protesters dishonor the Senate in which they serve by screaming from the gallery. It was among the lowest moments in the modern history of the Senate, and it was the Democratic minority that took it down to that depth.

Understandably, they are a bitter lot today.


And the #MeToo movement has been set back. For many of its champions were, in Kavanaugh’s case, demanding a suspension of the principle of “innocent until proven guilty,” and calling for the judge’s rejection in disgrace, based solely on their belief in a wholly uncorroborated 36-year-old story.

So where are we going now?

While Republicans are united and celebrating a great victory, the left and its media auxiliary are seething with rage and doubly determined to deliver payback in the e******ns four weeks away, where Democrats could pick up the two dozen seats needed to recapture the House.

Should they do so, however, they will face two years of frustration and failure. For the enactment of any major element of their liberal agenda — a $15 minimum wage, “Medicare-for-all” — would die in a Republican Senate, or in the Oval Office where it would face an inevitable veto by Trump.

So, what does 2019 look like, if Democrats capture the House?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi. A House Judiciary Committee headed by New York’s Jerrold Nadler who is already howling for impeachment hearings on both Kavanaugh and Trump.

And, by spring, a host of p**********l candidates, none of whom looks terribly formidable, led by Cory (“I am Spartacus”) Booker, trooping through Iowa and New Hampshire, trashing President Trump (and each other), and offering themselves as the answer to America’s problems.

Bring it on!



tactful wrote:
1ST - Don't shoot the messenger,Thanks!
I got this in a news feed that seemed awfully unclear so I investigated.
this is the result of said investigation:
really getting s**k of this,should have been viewed by the committee prior IMO along with the 650 law professors who signed a similar document at both Yale and Harvard ( where he taught).

ON THE BENCH
Brett Kavanaugh Cannot Have It Both Ways

As the former dean of Yale Law School, I’m shocked by the judge’s partisan turn.

By ROBERT POST

October 06, 2018


Brett Kavanaugh and I differ on most fundamental questions of constitutional law. Nevertheless, as a former dean of the institution where he received his law degree, I have withheld comment on the merits of his appointment. I am proud of the rich diversity of views that Yale Law School has produced.

Over the past decade, Kavanaugh has been a casual acquaintance. He seemed a gentle, quiet, reserved man, always solicitous of the dignity of his position as a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. It was therefore with something approaching unbelief that I heard his speech after Christine Blasey Ford’s testimony.

With calculation and sk**l, Kavanaugh stoked the fires of partisan rage and male entitlement. He had apparently concluded that the only way he could rally Republican support was by painting himself as the victim of a political hit job. He therefore offered a witches’ brew of vicious unfounded charges, alleging that Democratic members of the Senate Judicial Committee were pursuing a vendetta on behalf of the Clintons. If we expect judges to reach conclusions based solely on reliable evidence, Kavanaugh’s savage and bitter attack demonstrated exactly the opposite sensibility.

I was shell-shocked. This was not the Brett Kavanaugh I thought I knew. Having come so close to confirmation, Kavanaugh apparently cared more about his promotion than about preserving the dignity of the Supreme Court he aspired to join. Even if he sought to defend his honor as a husband and father, his unbalanced rantings about political persecution were so utterly inconsistent with the dispassionate temperament we expect from judges that one had to conclude that he had chosen ambition over professionalism.

His performance is indelibly etched in the public mind. For as long as Kavanaugh sits on the court, he will remain a symbol of partisan anger, a haunting reminder that behind the smiling face of judicial benevolence lies the force of an urgent will to power. No one who felt the force of that anger could possibly believe that Kavanaugh might actually be a detached and impartial judge. Each and every Republican who v**es for Kavanaugh, therefore, effectively announces that they care more about controlling the Supreme Court than they do about the legitimacy of the court itself. There will be hell to pay.

I was in the end prompted to write this essay because, on Thursday, Kavanaugh published a remarkable op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in which he apologized for his rash words and attempted to reclaim for himself the “independence and impartiality” so necessary for judges. But judicial temperament is not like a mask that can be put on or taken off at will. Judicial temperament is more than skin-deep. It is part of the DNA of a person, as is well illustrated by Merrick Garland, who never once descended to the partisan rancor of Kavanaugh, despite the Senate’s refusal even to dignify his nomination with a hearing.

Judge Kavanaugh cannot have it both ways. He cannot gain confirmation by unleashing partisan fury while simultaneously claiming that he possesses a judicial and impartial temperament. If Kavanaugh really cared about the integrity and independence of the Supreme Court, he would even now withdraw from consideration.

But I see no evidence that he is about to withdraw. Kavanaugh will thus join the court as the black-robed embodiment of raw partisan power inconsistent with any ideal of an impartial judiciary. As the court moves to the right to accommodate Trump’s appointments, Kavanaugh will inevitably become the focus of distrust and mobilization. His very presence will undermine the court’s claim to legitimacy; it will damage the nation’s commitment to the rule of law. It will be an American tragedy.


Robert Post is Sterling professor at Yale Law School. This article is adapted from its original version, which appeared on the blog Take Care
1ST - Don't shoot the messenger,Thanks! br I got t... (show quote)

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Oct 10, 2018 06:43:05   #
Seth
 
eagleye13 wrote:
A huge historical event just happened. America achieved the first conservative dominated Supreme Court in 50 years.

Republicans better figure out how important this was, and v**e in the November e******ns to block Democrat impeachment attempts.


Casualty Lists From the Kavanaugh Battle
By Patrick J. Buchanan
https://lewrockwell.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6ad24f4cd1574f1f7b8a0a03a&id=d1a77574cc&e=ac767b1a94

After a 50-year siege, the great strategic fortress of liberalism has fallen. With the elevation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh, the Supreme Court seems secure for constitutionalism — perhaps for decades.

The shrieks from the gallery of the Senate chamber as the v**e came in on Saturday, and the sight of that bawling mob clawing at the doors of the Supreme Court as the new justice took his oath, confirm it.

The Democratic Party has sustained a historic defeat.

And the triumph is President Trump’s.

To unite the party whose nomination he had won, Donald Trump pledged to select his high court nominees from lists prepared by such judicial conservatives as the Federalist Society. He kept his word and, in the battle for Kavanaugh, he led from the front, even mocking the credibility of the primary accuser, Christine Blasey Ford.


Trump has achieved what every GOP president has hoped to do since the summer of ’68, when a small group of GOP senators, led by Bob Griffin of Michigan, frustrated and then foiled a LBJ-Earl Warren plot to elevate LBJ crony Abe Fortas to chief justice in order to keep a future President Nixon from naming Warren’s successor.

Sharing the honors with Trump is Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Throughout 2016, McConnell took heat for refusing to hold a hearing on Barack Obama’s nominee, Judge Merrick Garland, to fill the chair of Justice Antonin Scalia, who had died earlier that year.

In 2017, McConnell used Harry Reid’s “nuclear option” to end filibusters for Supreme Court nominations, and then got Judge Neil Gorsuch confirmed 54-45.

Last week, in one of the closest and most brutal court battles in Senate history, McConnell kept his troops united, losing only Sen. Lisa Murkowski, to put Kavanaugh on the court by 50-48. McConnell will enter the history books as the Senate architect of the recapture of the Supreme Court for constitutionalism.

This was a huge victory for conservatism and for the Republican Party. And the presence on the court of octogenarian liberals Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, both appointed by Bill Clinton, suggests that McConnell may have an opportunity to ensure the endurance of his great achievement.


The ferocity and ugliness of the attacks on Kavanaugh united Republicans to stand as one against what a savage Senate minority was trying to do to k**l the nomination. And at battle’s end, the GOP is more energized than it has been all year for this fall’s e******n.

How united is the GOP? Conservatives are hailing the contributions of Sens. Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins, who delivered a masterful summation of the Kavanaugh case Saturday afternoon.

For the Democratic Party, the Kavanaugh battle was the Little Bighorn, as seen from General Custer’s point of view.

Unable to derail the judge during the regular confirmation process, they lay in the weeds until it was over, and then sandbagged the judge by leaking to The Washington Post a confidential letter Dr. Ford did not want released.

They thus forced a public hearing of charges of attempted rape against a nominee, demanded the FBI investigate all charges of sexual misconduct when Kavanaugh was a teenager, and ended up losing anyway.

Then the Dems watched protesters dishonor the Senate in which they serve by screaming from the gallery. It was among the lowest moments in the modern history of the Senate, and it was the Democratic minority that took it down to that depth.

Understandably, they are a bitter lot today.


And the #MeToo movement has been set back. For many of its champions were, in Kavanaugh’s case, demanding a suspension of the principle of “innocent until proven guilty,” and calling for the judge’s rejection in disgrace, based solely on their belief in a wholly uncorroborated 36-year-old story.

So where are we going now?

While Republicans are united and celebrating a great victory, the left and its media auxiliary are seething with rage and doubly determined to deliver payback in the e******ns four weeks away, where Democrats could pick up the two dozen seats needed to recapture the House.

Should they do so, however, they will face two years of frustration and failure. For the enactment of any major element of their liberal agenda — a $15 minimum wage, “Medicare-for-all” — would die in a Republican Senate, or in the Oval Office where it would face an inevitable veto by Trump.

So, what does 2019 look like, if Democrats capture the House?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi. A House Judiciary Committee headed by New York’s Jerrold Nadler who is already howling for impeachment hearings on both Kavanaugh and Trump.

And, by spring, a host of p**********l candidates, none of whom looks terribly formidable, led by Cory (“I am Spartacus”) Booker, trooping through Iowa and New Hampshire, trashing President Trump (and each other), and offering themselves as the answer to America’s problems.

Bring it on!
A huge historical event just happened. America ach... (show quote)


Here, here!



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Oct 10, 2018 07:01:53   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
eagleye13 wrote:
A huge historical event just happened. America achieved the first conservative dominated Supreme Court in 50 years.

Republicans better figure out how important this was, and v**e in the November e******ns to block Democrat impeachment attempts.


Casualty Lists From the Kavanaugh Battle
By Patrick J. Buchanan
https://lewrockwell.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6ad24f4cd1574f1f7b8a0a03a&id=d1a77574cc&e=ac767b1a94

After a 50-year siege, the great strategic fortress of liberalism has fallen. With the elevation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh, the Supreme Court seems secure for constitutionalism — perhaps for decades.

The shrieks from the gallery of the Senate chamber as the v**e came in on Saturday, and the sight of that bawling mob clawing at the doors of the Supreme Court as the new justice took his oath, confirm it.

The Democratic Party has sustained a historic defeat.

And the triumph is President Trump’s.

To unite the party whose nomination he had won, Donald Trump pledged to select his high court nominees from lists prepared by such judicial conservatives as the Federalist Society. He kept his word and, in the battle for Kavanaugh, he led from the front, even mocking the credibility of the primary accuser, Christine Blasey Ford.


Trump has achieved what every GOP president has hoped to do since the summer of ’68, when a small group of GOP senators, led by Bob Griffin of Michigan, frustrated and then foiled a LBJ-Earl Warren plot to elevate LBJ crony Abe Fortas to chief justice in order to keep a future President Nixon from naming Warren’s successor.

Sharing the honors with Trump is Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Throughout 2016, McConnell took heat for refusing to hold a hearing on Barack Obama’s nominee, Judge Merrick Garland, to fill the chair of Justice Antonin Scalia, who had died earlier that year.

In 2017, McConnell used Harry Reid’s “nuclear option” to end filibusters for Supreme Court nominations, and then got Judge Neil Gorsuch confirmed 54-45.

Last week, in one of the closest and most brutal court battles in Senate history, McConnell kept his troops united, losing only Sen. Lisa Murkowski, to put Kavanaugh on the court by 50-48. McConnell will enter the history books as the Senate architect of the recapture of the Supreme Court for constitutionalism.

This was a huge victory for conservatism and for the Republican Party. And the presence on the court of octogenarian liberals Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, both appointed by Bill Clinton, suggests that McConnell may have an opportunity to ensure the endurance of his great achievement.


The ferocity and ugliness of the attacks on Kavanaugh united Republicans to stand as one against what a savage Senate minority was trying to do to k**l the nomination. And at battle’s end, the GOP is more energized than it has been all year for this fall’s e******n.

How united is the GOP? Conservatives are hailing the contributions of Sens. Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins, who delivered a masterful summation of the Kavanaugh case Saturday afternoon.

For the Democratic Party, the Kavanaugh battle was the Little Bighorn, as seen from General Custer’s point of view.

Unable to derail the judge during the regular confirmation process, they lay in the weeds until it was over, and then sandbagged the judge by leaking to The Washington Post a confidential letter Dr. Ford did not want released.

They thus forced a public hearing of charges of attempted rape against a nominee, demanded the FBI investigate all charges of sexual misconduct when Kavanaugh was a teenager, and ended up losing anyway.

Then the Dems watched protesters dishonor the Senate in which they serve by screaming from the gallery. It was among the lowest moments in the modern history of the Senate, and it was the Democratic minority that took it down to that depth.

Understandably, they are a bitter lot today.


And the #MeToo movement has been set back. For many of its champions were, in Kavanaugh’s case, demanding a suspension of the principle of “innocent until proven guilty,” and calling for the judge’s rejection in disgrace, based solely on their belief in a wholly uncorroborated 36-year-old story.

So where are we going now?

While Republicans are united and celebrating a great victory, the left and its media auxiliary are seething with rage and doubly determined to deliver payback in the e******ns four weeks away, where Democrats could pick up the two dozen seats needed to recapture the House.

Should they do so, however, they will face two years of frustration and failure. For the enactment of any major element of their liberal agenda — a $15 minimum wage, “Medicare-for-all” — would die in a Republican Senate, or in the Oval Office where it would face an inevitable veto by Trump.

So, what does 2019 look like, if Democrats capture the House?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi. A House Judiciary Committee headed by New York’s Jerrold Nadler who is already howling for impeachment hearings on both Kavanaugh and Trump.

And, by spring, a host of p**********l candidates, none of whom looks terribly formidable, led by Cory (“I am Spartacus”) Booker, trooping through Iowa and New Hampshire, trashing President Trump (and each other), and offering themselves as the answer to America’s problems.

Bring it on!
A huge historical event just happened. America ach... (show quote)




Darn tootin brother!

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Oct 10, 2018 07:10:42   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
alleycat313 wrote:
This man has every right to his opinion, just as you or I. However, due to his experience as a lawyer, a judge, and a professor of law at one of our most prestigious university law schools, I think his opinion counts a little more than yours or mine. He has personally known Kavanaugh for years, and is in a better position to judge whether he should have been confirmed.

Welcome, Alleycat313, to OPP. Prepare for feedback, as the going can get rough on this forum. Enjoy your stay. We look forward to your contributions to discussions.

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Oct 10, 2018 07:23:42   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
alleycat313 wrote:
This man has every right to his opinion, just as you or I. However, due to his experience as a lawyer, a judge, and a professor of law at one of our most prestigious university law schools, I think his opinion counts a little more than yours or mine. He has personally known Kavanaugh for years, and is in a better position to judge whether he should have been confirmed.


Right on. alleycat.
Welcome aboard. Every one gets their say here.

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Oct 10, 2018 08:51:25   #
vettelover Loc: Richmond Va
 
tactful wrote:
you want to recap? simply put it is over kaput,finee ' ,done( if I could undo it I would in a heartbeat but then again no I stand by my convictions).you shot the messenger and now you're spewing threats and H**e.Why? all that was done was research on an iffy article,hence the topic( read when it was started and what the first line says).it doesn't seem your calm demeanor at all!doubt you'd know calm if it bit you honestly.I've seen a lot of posts and topics along with controversial talking points that most times have a h**e theme against someone else? why all the venom and h**e?from what you've written/ posted it reminds me of folks that pull their skin so tight that their @ss winds up on their head. definition of asshat.
while you assert that the country is finished that shows that you see the cup half empty instead of full.a real good altitude to have. Not. I cater to no party left or right,when you and your ilk come knocking or what have you surprises await. I do not make threats,not my style,I do make promises however.for the record I don't normally write or include things like the definition above,also not my style.simply remember the topic was started upon a search or quest for facts and t***h,nothing more,nothing less which basically undercuts the sadness you elude to and it was.
speaking for myself and probably others while what you wrote has merit and t***h it paints an ugly picture. I especially/ We don't get what you're driving at or any reason for attacking the masses seriously. 😳 end of story.
never heard or saw any celebrating about anything that did go wrong by anyone for any reason.it is sad actually along with unbecoming.
have a groovy day 😉
you want to recap? simply put it is over kaput,fin... (show quote)


You are naive. We have been pushed, shoved, threatened, ridiculed and endlessly lied too. Ask Senator Rand Paul's wife who sleeps with a gun next to her bed due to deadly threats against her and her children ALL DAY, EVERY DAY! Ask her if she thinks the fcking cup is half full! Her husband was seriously beaten by a tolerant l*****t h**er.

You betcha I have had enough. We dont want to live in your fcking world anymore than you want to live in our traditional world.

What should really scare you about your little liberal puff piece is the fact 600 plus young brainwashed Yale law professionals have no interest in protecting due process! Our lawyers today are being taught to protect the l*****t ideology and not the Bill of Rights. That should scare you!

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Oct 10, 2018 09:09:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
vettelover wrote:
You are naive. We have been pushed, shoved, threatened, ridiculed and endlessly lied too. Ask Senator Rand Paul's wife who sleeps with a gun next to her bed due to deadly threats against her and her children ALL DAY, EVERY DAY! Ask her if she thinks the fcking cup is half full! Her husband was seriously beaten by a tolerant l*****t h**er.

You betcha I have had enough. We dont want to live in your fcking world anymore than you want to live in our traditional world.

What should really scare you about your little liberal puff piece is the fact 600 plus young brainwashed Yale law professionals have no interest in protecting due process! Our lawyers today are being taught to protect the l*****t ideology and not the Bill of Rights. That should scare you!
You are naive. We have been pushed, shoved, threa... (show quote)


"You betcha I have had enough. We dont want to live in your fcking world anymore than you want to live in our traditional world.

What should really scare you about your little liberal puff piece is the fact 600 plus young brainwashed Yale law professionals have no interest in protecting due process! Our lawyers today are being taught to protect the l*****t ideology and not the Bill of Rights. That should scare you! - vettelover

A huge historical event just happened. America achieved the first conservative dominated Supreme Court in 50 years.

Republicans better figure out how important this was, and v**e in the November e******ns to block Democrat impeachment attempts.

This article by Pat Buchanan hits on many important points and should be shared by all conservatives.

Casualty Lists From the Kavanaugh Battle
By Patrick J. Buchanan
https://lewrockwell.us7.list-manage.com/track/click?u=6ad24f4cd1574f1f7b8a0a03a&id=d1a77574cc&e=ac767b1a94

After a 50-year siege, the great strategic fortress of liberalism has fallen. With the elevation of Judge Brett Kavanaugh, the Supreme Court seems secure for constitutionalism — perhaps for decades.

The shrieks from the gallery of the Senate chamber as the v**e came in on Saturday, and the sight of that bawling mob clawing at the doors of the Supreme Court as the new justice took his oath, confirm it.

The Democratic Party has sustained a historic defeat.

And the triumph is President Trump’s.

To unite the party whose nomination he had won, Donald Trump pledged to select his high court nominees from lists prepared by such judicial conservatives as the Federalist Society. He kept his word and, in the battle for Kavanaugh, he led from the front, even mocking the credibility of the primary accuser, Christine Blasey Ford.


Trump has achieved what every GOP president has hoped to do since the summer of ’68, when a small group of GOP senators, led by Bob Griffin of Michigan, frustrated and then foiled a LBJ-Earl Warren plot to elevate LBJ crony Abe Fortas to chief justice in order to keep a future President Nixon from naming Warren’s successor.

Sharing the honors with Trump is Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Throughout 2016, McConnell took heat for refusing to hold a hearing on Barack Obama’s nominee, Judge Merrick Garland, to fill the chair of Justice Antonin Scalia, who had died earlier that year.

In 2017, McConnell used Harry Reid’s “nuclear option” to end filibusters for Supreme Court nominations, and then got Judge Neil Gorsuch confirmed 54-45.

Last week, in one of the closest and most brutal court battles in Senate history, McConnell kept his troops united, losing only Sen. Lisa Murkowski, to put Kavanaugh on the court by 50-48. McConnell will enter the history books as the Senate architect of the recapture of the Supreme Court for constitutionalism.

This was a huge victory for conservatism and for the Republican Party. And the presence on the court of octogenarian liberals Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, both appointed by Bill Clinton, suggests that McConnell may have an opportunity to ensure the endurance of his great achievement.


The ferocity and ugliness of the attacks on Kavanaugh united Republicans to stand as one against what a savage Senate minority was trying to do to k**l the nomination. And at battle’s end, the GOP is more energized than it has been all year for this fall’s e******n.

How united is the GOP? Conservatives are hailing the contributions of Sens. Jeff Flake, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins, who delivered a masterful summation of the Kavanaugh case Saturday afternoon.

For the Democratic Party, the Kavanaugh battle was the Little Bighorn, as seen from General Custer’s point of view.

Unable to derail the judge during the regular confirmation process, they lay in the weeds until it was over, and then sandbagged the judge by leaking to The Washington Post a confidential letter Dr. Ford did not want released.

They thus forced a public hearing of charges of attempted rape against a nominee, demanded the FBI investigate all charges of sexual misconduct when Kavanaugh was a teenager, and ended up losing anyway.

Then the Dems watched protesters dishonor the Senate in which they serve by screaming from the gallery. It was among the lowest moments in the modern history of the Senate, and it was the Democratic minority that took it down to that depth.

Understandably, they are a bitter lot today.


And the #MeToo movement has been set back. For many of its champions were, in Kavanaugh’s case, demanding a suspension of the principle of “innocent until proven guilty,” and calling for the judge’s rejection in disgrace, based solely on their belief in a wholly uncorroborated 36-year-old story.

So where are we going now?

While Republicans are united and celebrating a great victory, the left and its media auxiliary are seething with rage and doubly determined to deliver payback in the e******ns four weeks away, where Democrats could pick up the two dozen seats needed to recapture the House.

Should they do so, however, they will face two years of frustration and failure. For the enactment of any major element of their liberal agenda — a $15 minimum wage, “Medicare-for-all” — would die in a Republican Senate, or in the Oval Office where it would face an inevitable veto by Trump.

So, what does 2019 look like, if Democrats capture the House?

Speaker Nancy Pelosi. A House Judiciary Committee headed by New York’s Jerrold Nadler who is already howling for impeachment hearings on both Kavanaugh and Trump.

And, by spring, a host of p**********l candidates, none of whom looks terribly formidable, led by Cory (“I am Spartacus”) Booker, trooping through Iowa and New Hampshire, trashing President Trump (and each other), and offering themselves as the answer to America’s problems.

Bring it on!

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Oct 10, 2018 11:36:02   #
Carol Kelly
 
Gatsby wrote:
Until professor Post has "walked a mile" in Justice Kavanaugh's shoes, he should sit down, shut his mouth, and open his mind!


Ditto!!

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