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Oct 9, 2018 13:57:13   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
Comment wrote:
Just another liberal prof. shooting his mouth off. FRACK his liberal position. I do not agree with his vision. Period


that's your perspective and prerogative in this still Free country of ours even though it is likely undocumented or not easily proven.can respect what you think and/ or believe no matter the perspective as long as it's honest. šŸ˜Š

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Oct 9, 2018 14:02:44   #
TrueAmerican
 
tactful wrote:
1ST - Don't shoot the messenger,Thanks!
I got this in a news feed that seemed awfully unclear so I investigated.
this is the result of said investigation:
really getting s**k of this,should have been viewed by the committee prior IMO along with the 650 law professors who signed a similar document at both Yale and Harvard ( where he taught).

ON THE BENCH
Brett Kavanaugh Cannot Have It Both Ways

As the former dean of Yale Law School, Iā€™m shocked by the judgeā€™s partisan turn.

By ROBERT POST

October 06, 2018


Brett Kavanaugh and I differ on most fundamental questions of constitutional law. Nevertheless, as a former dean of the institution where he received his law degree, I have withheld comment on the merits of his appointment. I am proud of the rich diversity of views that Yale Law School has produced.

Over the past decade, Kavanaugh has been a casual acquaintance. He seemed a gentle, quiet, reserved man, always solicitous of the dignity of his position as a judge on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. It was therefore with something approaching unbelief that I heard his speech after Christine Blasey Fordā€™s testimony.

With calculation and sk**l, Kavanaugh stoked the fires of partisan rage and male entitlement. He had apparently concluded that the only way he could rally Republican support was by painting himself as the victim of a political hit job. He therefore offered a witchesā€™ brew of vicious unfounded charges, alleging that Democratic members of the Senate Judicial Committee were pursuing a vendetta on behalf of the Clintons. If we expect judges to reach conclusions based solely on reliable evidence, Kavanaughā€™s savage and bitter attack demonstrated exactly the opposite sensibility.

I was shell-shocked. This was not the Brett Kavanaugh I thought I knew. Having come so close to confirmation, Kavanaugh apparently cared more about his promotion than about preserving the dignity of the Supreme Court he aspired to join. Even if he sought to defend his honor as a husband and father, his unbalanced rantings about political persecution were so utterly inconsistent with the dispassionate temperament we expect from judges that one had to conclude that he had chosen ambition over professionalism.

His performance is indelibly etched in the public mind. For as long as Kavanaugh sits on the court, he will remain a symbol of partisan anger, a haunting reminder that behind the smiling face of judicial benevolence lies the force of an urgent will to power. No one who felt the force of that anger could possibly believe that Kavanaugh might actually be a detached and impartial judge. Each and every Republican who v**es for Kavanaugh, therefore, effectively announces that they care more about controlling the Supreme Court than they do about the legitimacy of the court itself. There will be hell to pay.

I was in the end prompted to write this essay because, on Thursday, Kavanaugh published a remarkable op-ed in the Wall Street Journal in which he apologized for his rash words and attempted to reclaim for himself the ā€œindependence and impartialityā€ so necessary for judges. But judicial temperament is not like a mask that can be put on or taken off at will. Judicial temperament is more than skin-deep. It is part of the DNA of a person, as is well illustrated by Merrick Garland, who never once descended to the partisan rancor of Kavanaugh, despite the Senateā€™s refusal even to dignify his nomination with a hearing.

Judge Kavanaugh cannot have it both ways. He cannot gain confirmation by unleashing partisan fury while simultaneously claiming that he possesses a judicial and impartial temperament. If Kavanaugh really cared about the integrity and independence of the Supreme Court, he would even now withdraw from consideration.

But I see no evidence that he is about to withdraw. Kavanaugh will thus join the court as the black-robed embodiment of raw partisan power inconsistent with any ideal of an impartial judiciary. As the court moves to the right to accommodate Trumpā€™s appointments, Kavanaugh will inevitably become the focus of distrust and mobilization. His very presence will undermine the courtā€™s claim to legitimacy; it will damage the nationā€™s commitment to the rule of law. It will be an American tragedy.


Robert Post is Sterling professor at Yale Law School. This article is adapted from its original version, which appeared on the blog Take Care
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Suck it up buttercup ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!

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Oct 9, 2018 14:05:18   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Peewee wrote:
Somebody needs to update Wikipedia then, it said 27, not 40. I would tend to agree that increasing the number lessens the honor, it's like congress v****g themselves a pay raise.

The weather here is the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Professor

An excerpt from Wikipedia, just a moment ago, on the history of Yale's Sterling professorships: "In 1958, the Yale Corporation capped the number of simultaneous appointments at 27, but further endowment growth allowed this number to expand to 40 by 2011."

There's always tomorrow, Peewee...and, tomorrow promises to be a wonderful day, weather-wise.

BTW, is O'Brian's still operating on The River-Walk and are the floors still covered in peanut shells

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Oct 9, 2018 14:06:38   #
elledee
 
eloquent,articulate dignified...absolute academia spin..... thus said the barking moon bat lib-prog

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Oct 9, 2018 14:07:03   #
TrueAmerican
 
tactful wrote:
huh? a former dean is motive for not speaking out?so called fluff has merit as do all the Law professors.
one would think at least in my opinion they all can't be wrong on many points made throughout what 650 of them signed that should have been seen at some point before.


That's OK 51 senators said he was to be appointed and HE WAS end of story, as I said before suck it up butter cup !!!!!!

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Oct 9, 2018 14:10:10   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
That's OK 51 senators said he was to be appointed and HE WAS end of story, as I said before suck it up butter cup !!!!!!

Actually, the v**e was 50-48, with two abstaining...one due to his daughter's wedding. Also, V.P. Pence wasn't required to v**e.

But, as you wrote, he was appointed.

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Oct 9, 2018 14:14:39   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
slatten49 wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Professor

An excerpt from Wikipedia, just a moment ago, on the history of Yale's Sterling professorships: "In 1958, the Yale Corporation capped the number of simultaneous appointments at 27, but further endowment growth allowed this number to expand to 40 by 2011."

There's always tomorrow, Peewee...and, tomorrow promises to be a wonderful day, weather-wise.

BTW, is O'Brian's still operating on The River-Walk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterling_Professor b... (show quote)


I haven't been down there in years. But it was in @2000. Why, you hungry for peanuts, beer or both?

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Oct 9, 2018 14:22:50   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Peewee wrote:
I haven't been down there in years. But it was in @2000. Why, you hungry for peanuts, beer or both?

Just waxing nostalgiac, as I haven't been to San Antonio for a real visit in years. I did, however, attend my granddaughter Brittney's graduation from U.T. San Antonio just last December. Her degree is in criminology and she wants to work for the F.B.I.'s Behavioral Analysis Unit. She has always enjoyed watching 'Criminal Minds.'

Although I'm not a beer-drinker, I do love peanuts. I can't recall the quality of any food they served when last there. The nearby Alamo remains one of my all-time favorite places to visit. I get caught up in the history of the siege and battle.

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Oct 9, 2018 14:28:30   #
maryla
 
The comment is common knowledge....you're being a bit rough!
tactful wrote:
you know this how?can anyone prove that statement/ comment?
it's absurd,jumping to conclusions like assumptions is bad exercise.
believe what you will,without proof it is pointless much like the comment. šŸ˜‰

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Oct 9, 2018 14:32:41   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
That's OK 51 senators said he was to be appointed and HE WAS end of story, as I said before suck it up butter cup !!!!!!


another country heard from so to speak.its not ok although appointed the SCOTUS will never be seen the same way again. that is end of story.I am not a buttercup by any stretch of the imagination nor is name calling or labels my forte.it's childish at best with a somewhat healthy dose or insanity at worst.
have a nice day. šŸ‘‹šŸ»šŸ‘‹šŸ»

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Oct 9, 2018 14:35:20   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Peewee wrote:
I was being cute, I had already looked it up. Kavanaugh graduated cum laude, which is above average but lower than Magna and Summa. Wal-Mart cake bakers think it means something dirty.

I think earning a cum laude diploma is harder than a faculty member being given an academic rank by other faculty members. It might just mean they are well liked, fit the social scene better, or brought in more money from the alumni. I mean is there a test, is there a measurable formal criterion to earn Sterling Professor at Yale.

I do know that Yale limits the number of Sterling professors to 27 and each get 4,000.00 extra if they get selected. They still must interact/teach students but I'm not sure if that means regular students or grad students. I do know that Yale was started and funded by Christians like most of the Ivy schools and all have drifted from their origins and today tilt left like you tend to do when you are being serious. In it's beginning its main goal was teaching for careers in religion and politics and in that order.

Anything else you want to educate me on? I have Google also you know.

dam Peewee
are you tellin me that people besides me have google??
boy that's a blow

I was being cute, I had already looked it up. Kava... (show quote)



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Oct 9, 2018 14:35:42   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
tactful wrote:
noted! however he is just voicing what hundreds of Law professors thought and signed off on from both Yale and Harvard that got as much interest as the so called feebee ( FBI) investigation.
everybody Needs to walk in someone else's shoes before opening their mouth. Moi included.
Hundreds of law professors. Now there's a quorum I'm just dying to have tell me how I should live my life.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-law-professors-trump-scalia-supreme-court-conservative-perspec-1118-md-20161117-story.html
If you don't want to read the article, here's a telling paragraph: "To a hammer everything looks like a nail, and to a law professor everything is a problem in jurisprudence. Accordingly, it's my guess that the legal academy, over the past 80 years or so, began to wander too far from common sense, or, to be more precise, to depart from the essentials of the rule of law. Law professors forgot the most important notion that undergirds our legal system Ć¢Ā€Ā” the basic principle endorsed by the framers, that ours is a government of laws, not men (or women)."



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Oct 9, 2018 14:37:29   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
badbobby wrote:

I'll try agin
Peewee are you tellin me that others (besides me and you) have google?
dam
that's a blow


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Oct 9, 2018 14:43:58   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
badbobby wrote:
I'll try agin
Peewee are you tellin me that others (besides me and you) have google?
dam
that's a blow



ROFLMAO
yeah BB many others have google and still more have other search engines. šŸ˜Š

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Oct 9, 2018 14:45:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
badbobby wrote:
I'll try agin
Peewee are you tellin me that others (besides me and you) have google?
dam
that's a blow


Like many before you have done, BB, you inadvertently inserted your reply within the previous poster's comment.

After you've been on the forum a while, you'll get the hang of it.

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