PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Perhaps my nose is larger than yours.

Ve'hoe

And yet,,, you are one of "those" white men.. are you not. You have said you were a psychologist (or some variant) and that you took "not one dime of insurance money" so you must have been quite successful and now well off,, interesting to note however, that though you tout affordable care for the downtrodden, po-folks,, your services would not and were not available to the scum without their own money, were they?

How do you explain your dichotomy of actions and morals??


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Dennis Prager wants Americans to continue to be gullible.
He would like our youth to ignore the fact that history was written by the winners.

This past weekend I was at the California Railroad Museum. In it, there is a giant painting of the "Silver Spike Ceremony". This was the event that honored the placing of the silver rail spike to commemorate the completion of the t***scontinental railroad, in Utah. It's the very spot where the Union Pacific and Central Pacific railroads met.

The painting portrays wealthy white men in their sartorial splendor at the gathering. Next to the painting is a real photograph of the event. It shows tattered and dirty white men. Their are no minorities. Next to the photo are the stories of those folks who were told to scram before the picture was taken......the Chinese who labored long and hard, in the face of danger, to complete the project.

The museum makes a point of noting the sanitized rich white version of history.

I'm sure Praeger would be pissed to know that liberals again let the "cat out of the bag".

I'm with Bill Maher. Americans need to be less gullible and more cynical. :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:[/quote]

Comment Loc: California

Seems to me, a better choice is suicide and leave us be.

Ve'hoe

As well as cynicism, that has replaced hope in the form of god,,, not too hard to understand liberals, see themselves as "gods" to be worshipped and h**e everything that detracts from them......

VMWH

"VM, you are measuring the activities of mankind of 250 yrs ago with the values of today. "

No, you are acting as if it was 250 years ago and I am measuring the values of OUR nation, not all mankind. The theory is that s***ery ended 150 years ago here, and the reality is that it was immediately followed by Jim Crow laws, frequent lynchings and segregation. That did not end on paper until 50 years ago, and it, in reality, has not yet ended.
And g****r discrimination 46 years ago had me having to seek my husband's stepfather's consent to open a charge account, because my husband was overseas and I "no longer belonged to my own father" even, but to my husband's family now. And that took place with a store based in "radical" .San Francisco So until it does end, live with resentment of white guys that white guys created.

VMWH

thank you.

Brian Devon

[quote=Ve'hoe]And yet,,, you are one of "those" white men.. are you not. You have said you were a psychologist (or some variant) and that you took "not one dime of insurance money" so you must have been quite successful and now well off,, interesting to note however, that though you tout affordable care for the downtrodden, po-folks,, your services would not and were not available to the scum without their own money, were they?

How do you explain your dichotomy of actions and morals??




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I was a social worker. I am not wealthy. My salary came from donations to private social service agencies, usually on behalf of the poor. If private fees were paid, they were on a sliding scale, based on ability to pay. Being on salary those fees were not paid directly to me.

I have never owned a luxury car, boat, or second home.

How do I justify my political positions while being white? Like most liberals I do not believe people should be discriminated against because of their race, g****r, or ancestral origin. I was not raised that this is always a dog-eat-dog tooth & fang world where it must be k**l or be k**led. I think humans were granted intellect to be able to seek non-violent ways of sharing resources and power.

Ve'hoe

And yet, you don't, your liberal ideology destroys cities, wrecks families, and oppresses my entire people!!

While you maintain that you have ZERO connection to the policies that do so!!

YOU ARE the problem, it is NOT someone else... why can you not see, that the people YOU v**ed in, were the ones murdering that mans cattle in Nevada, and using highpowered long range scoped rifles to take another groups of peoples lands??? And if they resisted, the same govt would have k**led them..

You are not innocent, you are the one who v**ed these people into power, and have said, that you would do so again.


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Brian Devon

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VMWH,
Astute observations. Kudos.

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Ve'hoe

"The Good Ole Days" that the Democrats want to bring back... While Obama pays the female staffers in the white house 77% of what the males get!?!

Man those dems are slick!!!
How do they get away with pointing their fat fingers at others????

Brian Devon

Vehoe,

You seem to be in conflict with everyone and everything. It would probably be best to seek some counseling or join some kind of support group. I suspect you sustained psychological or physical injury in the middle east and struggle daily to rationalize your losses rather than ever confront the men that put you in that k**l-or-be-k**led situation. We are not your enemy.

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

So, if one disagrees with you, they require counseling or need to join some support group? I suggest YOU seek counseling or join a support group, like "recovering libtards." What a crock of left-wing psychobabble!

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

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Ve'hoe

No, Brian, I really have not,,,It really makes you feel safer to try to pigeon-hole me doesn't it? I fly in the face of all the liberal tenets you hold dear, dont I?

I have lived on this reservation, with a defeated people for 20 some years, being bathed in this "White man is evil" race baiting crap, and how the democrats will "SAVE" us because they are the "GOOD GUYS." I h**ed the white man and things "HE" had done to us. I h**ed conservatives, and the white-mans Jesus/Religion for the oppression, r****m, and death they caused, the murders of millions in Vietnam and elsewhere. Then I went into college and became a liberal, and I believed I was more intelligent and more able to discern "rights" for the individual than they were, because in college, they made me smarter, than the "unwashed." I then went into the world, with the Marine Corps, I saw other cultures, I saw homogenous cultures, in the islands of the south pacific, and Africa.

There I saw un-sophisticated people, untainted by the white man. And,,,, they were r****t without Jesus/and Conservatives, cruel, murderous, petty, and mean... no different than anyone, anywhere, it was a lie, that the "white man" created r****m, murder and oppression. Not in any country, did I see, where a Black, Muslim, or oriental majority, FOUGHT to free another race of people, not one.


In disasters, the ONLY people who came to the rescue, were the Americans, and primarily the American Military, mostly white (but that doesnt matter particularly). The State Department people I met, were vile and contemptuous, and I made the connection with those back on the reservation with the govt employees of the BIA, FBI, and HHS that I had met, they were liberals, and they h**ed the people they were there working purportedly for. And I began to make the association with the "control" of peoples. But!! they also "required" that those people stay in the situation they were in, so that the liberal could maintain his job.


It was not the conservatives. People were not "dumb" and did not "require" the assistance of liberals to live. And that the reality was, that the entire farce was perpetrated for power and control.


I got out of the marines for about 12 years and got a medical degree. Even then, I would have liberal bureaucrats talk down to me, as if I might "get" what they were saying, if they talked slower, or refer to me as "chief". They were democrats, and extremely liberal, and they h**ed us. It was in their best interests to "keep" us down, through poverty, through squalor, through welfare, drugs, etc. And whether they intended that or not, that was what the prison they built provided. It did not provide the "way out" it provided the way to stay in.


I turned to the Christian religion, actually through the local "shaman/Medicine man" oddly enough, and began to actually study the religion and juxtapose it to Islam/Buddism/and atheism. Once again, it was not the religion, it was the people,,, aided considerably be a violently lying press and an obsessed anti-christian radical left.


The only way out of the predicament is to work hard, be free, and have a chance at studying, learning, and achieving. There really is not an "Evil White Male" keeping anyone down. The whole idea is a trap and a cop out. Each person "CAN" make it, but "Equal opportunity" does not mean equal outcome. You get what little "decent" treatment you get from individuals, mostly Christians, I have been to Islamic Countries who do not oppress others, they just cut off their heads. Islam is the male dominated society on the planet, not Christianity. The Jews are not the evil ones. And in the USA YOU DO HAVE a chance to succeed.



Everything, that the current liberal govt has based its platform on, is a lie. They push a******n, drug use, and poverty. And due to the debauchery of man (dog eat dog) as you call it, they find a welcome audience.


If liberalism was the answer, it has had ample time for success. As the reservations were opened the Indians situation got better, as we made money, we improved. What you do for yourself is what counts, a govt always has to "Keep" you to keep their jobs, therefore there is no incentive for you to succeed, and to be sure, the war on poverty has failed. Drug use is rampant, millions of a******ns a year, even women in the Obama white house are paid less than men!!!! (IN YOUR HEROES WHITE HOUSE) and you wont call a spade a spade, why is that?


It is you who lives the lie, others have their eyes open. People are people, there are none that are worse or better than others. Governments oppress, regardless of their original intent. They begin to take and need a class of "serfs" to justify their positions.



I have not been "easy" on my people either, I h**e that whiny "The White man keeps me down " Crap,, because he doesn't. I found that the Christian religion was correct, I found white/black/and all color men and women who were good shared the same values and most of them reside in the USA.

Liberalism, demands that "WE" obey the rule of law!! But they dont when fighting DOMA, when overturning Prop 8 the will of the people, when the DOJ is running guns into mexico and agents get k**led liberals dont care, when the borders are unprotected they dont care, when your president lies, it is OK, when your president gets us in wars in Egypt lybia syria, and africa, it is OK!!

But when it comes time to force Christians to fund a******ns, or send Armed thugs to take peoples land in Nevada, or excuse the money laundering of hilary clinton, then thwe "law isnt that important"


I quite living the lie of the left, I woke up. The Govt control of the Indians is more devastating than any of the wars. Liberalism is dying, c*******m doesnt work, so the left goes n**i and is considering getting us into ukraine.


It is you who really needs psychological help, if you sit still and watch the liberty of others snuffed out.

vernon

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