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Sep 25, 2018 09:36:28   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
If hilliar were tried today, she'd be guilty of treasons and profiting from foreign governments through her clinton foundation. The crimes were there, the courage to prosecute wasn't. And yes, I am disappointed in Trey Gowdy. He quit under pressure, unlike Jim Jordan or Donald Trump.


You are no angel, nor am I .
We draw our different conclusions on less than perfect grounds.
We disagree on issue that are & should be left as just personal issues.

But there is one way we do differ.
Your grasp of life is to support issues with political agendas.
Agendas fueled by the issues that divide us.

I am seeking ways to find agreement in what should be done to live with each other.

I am not winning the game.

Life should not be looked as winning or losing.
Winning at the expense of some ones loss is hollow.
It is through cooperation that man kind advances.

Wars only produce disaster & dismay.
Where perhaps the only gain is living for another day.

I do not wish to control your thoughts.
I as an individual feel that there is hope for man kind to live with dignity & respect for each other.
I feel that my personal view of others is one of greater & deeper respect than others.
If only by a small margin.

At a point in time when we should be reducing our divisions.
They are only becoming more diverse.

On this site we are exposing our self as individuals.
Who we are & what we have in life is only what words we put down here & now.

We come together as individuals.
Many bring issues & answers from out side this site to bolster their message.
If we wish to be looked at as individuals & retain the greatest level of individual freedom.
We have to stop listening so close to those that seek to keep us divided.

If any of us truly wish to be free as individuals we need to help others have that same freedom also.
But if we are to understand each other we need to speak from with in our self.

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Sep 25, 2018 10:10:58   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
You are no angel, nor am I .
We draw our different conclusions on less than perfect grounds.
We disagree on issue that are & should be left as just personal issues.

But there is one way we do differ.
Your grasp of life is to support issues with political agendas.
Agendas fueled by the issues that divide us.

I am seeking ways to find agreement in what should be done to live with each other.

I am not winning the game.

Life should not be looked as winning or losing.
Winning at the expense of some ones loss is hollow.
It is through cooperation that man kind advances.

Wars only produce disaster & dismay.
Where perhaps the only gain is living for another day.

I do not wish to control your thoughts.
I as an individual feel that there is hope for man kind to live with dignity & respect for each other.
I feel that my personal view of others is one of greater & deeper respect than others.
If only by a small margin.

At a point in time when we should be reducing our divisions.
They are only becoming more diverse.

On this site we are exposing our self as individuals.
Who we are & what we have in life is only what words we put down here & now.

We come together as individuals.
Many bring issues & answers from out side this site to bolster their message.
If we wish to be looked at as individuals & retain the greatest level of individual freedom.
We have to stop listening so close to those that seek to keep us divided.

If any of us truly wish to be free as individuals we need to help others have that same freedom also.
But if we are to understand each other we need to speak from with in our self.
You are no angel, nor am I . br We draw our differ... (show quote)

You're a good man. A little altruistic, but good intrinsically.
Obama pulled America so far left that Trump has no room for compromise. Any compromise is a tug to the left. Compromise can come later, when the stakes aren't pushing America into socialism.

A socialist walks into a bar. Buy everyone in the bar a drink, he says, and average it out and give them their tab.

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Sep 25, 2018 10:58:42   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You're a good man. A little altruistic, but good intrinsically.
Obama pulled America so far left that Trump has no room for compromise. Any compromise is a tug to the left. Compromise can come later, when the stakes aren't pushing America into socialism.

A socialist walks into a bar. Buy everyone in the bar a drink, he says, and average it out and give them their tab.


The way I heard that story was:
A man walks in to a bar & ask for a drink.
Then "Says when I drink every one should drink so give every one a drink."
When the tab came he said. "when I pay every one pays."
Or words to that effect.

I think you need to look at all the private companies lining up at the coffers of government looking & getting money to support their businesses.
Getting special deals & tax breaks.

I say that if you truly fear becoming a socialistic nation you take a good look at just what is happening.
Or is some socialism good & some bad?

Is there even just a little altruism in you?
I put you done as being a decent person.
But don't we all need to be a little more decent as individuals who are face with sharing in what there is?

For the most part we each just need to be a bit more accepting of each other.

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Sep 25, 2018 11:00:15   #
son of witless
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
The way I heard that story was:
A man walks in to a bar & ask for a drink.
Then "Says when I drink every one should drink so give every one a drink."
When the tab came he said. "when I pay every one pays."
Or words to that effect.

I think you need to look at all the private companies lining up at the coffers of government looking & getting money to support their businesses.
Getting special deals & tax breaks.

I say that if you truly fear becoming a socialistic nation you take a good look at just what is happening.
Or is some socialism good & some bad?

Is there even just a little altruism in you?
I put you done as being a decent person.
But don't we all need to be a little more decent as individuals who are face with sharing in what there is?

For the most part we each just need to be a bit more accepting of each other.
The way I heard that story was: br A man walks in ... (show quote)


You mean like Solyndra under Obama ?

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Sep 25, 2018 11:11:52   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You're a good man. A little altruistic, but good intrinsically.
Obama pulled America so far left that Trump has no room for compromise. Any compromise is a tug to the left. Compromise can come later, when the stakes aren't pushing America into socialism.

A socialist walks into a bar. Buy everyone in the bar a drink, he says, and average it out and give them their tab.


The real issue is between people like you & I.
We need to be who we want to be.
We just need to leave each other with room to live.

You & I as individuals need to leave each other that room.
We do not need to let others decide for us how we need to get a long with each other.

We will always look at life a bit different from each other.
We can only live with individual freedoms if we are both able to live as individuals.
Each of us becomes a balance on what each of us is.
Life is a constant give & take. That must always balance out.

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Sep 25, 2018 11:13:36   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
son of witless wrote:
You mean like Solyndra under Obama ?


If the shoe fits put it on.

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Sep 25, 2018 14:20:52   #
truthiness
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
If hilliar were tried today, she'd be guilty of treasons and profiting from foreign governments through her clinton foundation. The crimes were there, the courage to prosecute wasn't. And yes, I am disappointed in Trey Gowdy. He quit under pressure, unlike Jim Jordan or Donald Trump.

...
Well, Mikey, the repubs were and still are in power. Don't they have any prosecutors? We know they won't get any prosecutors from the addled repub members of the Senate Judicial Committee who are afraid to ask questions of the woman they want grilled. But if the party in power can't prosecute, the first thing to think is---there must not be enough there to do the job. General Felon (Lock-her Up) Lynch is going to prison (maybe) and lots of his alt-right cronies (and you) wanted her prosecuted. If the crimes are so obvious and there is so much evidence, why can't the party in power pull it off?
Hey, Mikey, don't be so hard on the Dropout. His committee (his majority) spent millions and gave it the old college try. He gives up in hopes of becoming a federal judge just like his addled senate colleague from Utah. Dropout can't afford another embarrassing loss, so he goes back home with his tail between his legs---just as Hatch does.
To reiterate: where is the evidence to convict Clinton? And if it is there, why isn't the party in power with its hand-picked (by the orangeman himself) republicans in charge of the DOJ and the FBI as well as the House and Senate (ruled by repubs) able to convict her? Looks to me like there isn't any evidence (which you will not identify except with broad generalizations) or her accusers are incompetent. The Dropout's performance is a case in point.
The issue of fear has not surfaced, so let's bring it up here---maybe her accusers are afraid of her? So, Mikey, here is your opportunity to start down that rat hole---the great Clinton k*****g machine. You can go back to an earlier thread to find Pennylinn's long list of potential corpses. Let's see where that goes: are the powerful, old, addled white guys of the republican in-charge Senate Judicial Committee trembling in fear of their lives?

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Sep 25, 2018 17:52:40   #
Mikeyavelli
 
t***hiness wrote:
...
Well, Mikey, the repubs were and still are in power. Don't they have any prosecutors? We know they won't get any prosecutors from the addled repub members of the Senate Judicial Committee who are afraid to ask questions of the woman they want grilled. But if the party in power can't prosecute, the first thing to think is---there must not be enough there to do the job. General Felon (Lock-her Up) Lynch is going to prison (maybe) and lots of his alt-right cronies (and you) wanted her prosecuted. If the crimes are so obvious and there is so much evidence, why can't the party in power pull it off?
Hey, Mikey, don't be so hard on the Dropout. His committee (his majority) spent millions and gave it the old college try. He gives up in hopes of becoming a federal judge just like his addled senate colleague from Utah. Dropout can't afford another embarrassing loss, so he goes back home with his tail between his legs---just as Hatch does.
To reiterate: where is the evidence to convict Clinton? And if it is there, why isn't the party in power with its hand-picked (by the orangeman himself) republicans in charge of the DOJ and the FBI as well as the House and Senate (ruled by repubs) able to convict her? Looks to me like there isn't any evidence (which you will not identify except with broad generalizations) or her accusers are incompetent. The Dropout's performance is a case in point.
The issue of fear has not surfaced, so let's bring it up here---maybe her accusers are afraid of her? So, Mikey, here is your opportunity to start down that rat hole---the great Clinton k*****g machine. You can go back to an earlier thread to find Pennylinn's long list of potential corpses. Let's see where that goes: are the powerful, old, addled white guys of the republican in-charge Senate Judicial Committee trembling in fear of their lives?
... br Well, Mikey, the repubs were and still are ... (show quote)

During any hilliar investigation obama was President and the deep state was in charge, and they still are. Enough of them are left coiled in corners ready to strike at Trump and hide anything incriminating for obama or hilliar or any other cabal member. Loretta Lynch wasn't going to prosecute hilliar, she was complicit, an old time Clinton lawyer who got rewarded for her loyalty, both to obama and especially hilliar and Bill.
Hilliar ran her own government through her own servers and the pay to play schemes run through the Clinton Foundation. She destroyed evidence, lots of evidence. America convicted her. We're not stupid.
Obama too, he was cut in on hilliar's deals, Comey too. Obama didn't leave the Whitehouse rich because of his puerile book sales.
All guilty. And when the swamp drains, hilliar will be locked up!

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Sep 25, 2018 19:48:59   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Michael Avenatti Locks Account After Admitting Kavanaugh Accuser Might Not Come Forward
https://republicbroadcasting.org/news/michael-avenatti-locks-account-after-admitting-kavanaugh-accuser-might-not-come-forward/
Attorney Michael Avenatti said his client might now not come forward against Brett Kavanaugh, and then locked his Twitter public profile from view

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Sep 26, 2018 11:28:09   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
During any hilliar investigation obama was President and the deep state was in charge, and they still are. Enough of them are left coiled in corners ready to strike at Trump and hide anything incriminating for obama or hilliar or any other cabal member. Loretta Lynch wasn't going to prosecute hilliar, she was complicit, an old time Clinton lawyer who got rewarded for her loyalty, both to obama and especially hilliar and Bill.
Hilliar ran her own government through her own servers and the pay to play schemes run through the Clinton Foundation. She destroyed evidence, lots of evidence. America convicted her. We're not stupid.
Obama too, he was cut in on hilliar's deals, Comey too. Obama didn't leave the Whitehouse rich because of his puerile book sales.
All guilty. And when the swamp drains, hilliar will be locked up!
During any hilliar investigation obama was Preside... (show quote)


Just keep up your campaign against those democrats you feel need to be in jail.
If there is a true issue here I am all for taking what ever time & recourses needed to please you.
Before you start the action need to advance your quest how far back should we go in punishing prior criminals.

In the mean time I say we need to look at the issues facing us to day to have the same level of attention applied on the actions of Trump.
It is only just that the American people have those with the best interest of the public in charge.
Or is trump to get a get out of jail free card?

As a some what concerned individual I have seen actions by both political parties as not having the best interests of the public in mind.
It is my conclusion that the actions of the right are harsher on the general Public than the actions of the left.

I am in agreement that there is a middle ground between the 2 basic ideals need to be retained.
It is in keeping things in the right balance that is important.
The differences in the extremes of the 2 are each under attack.
While a more balance role is needed.
A view that each of as individuals can live with.

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Sep 26, 2018 13:58:15   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Just keep up your campaign against those democrats you feel need to be in jail.
If there is a true issue here I am all for taking what ever time & recourses needed to please you.
Before you start the action need to advance your quest how far back should we go in punishing prior criminals.

In the mean time I say we need to look at the issues facing us to day to have the same level of attention applied on the actions of Trump.
It is only just that the American people have those with the best interest of the public in charge.
Or is trump to get a get out of jail free card?

As a some what concerned individual I have seen actions by both political parties as not having the best interests of the public in mind.
It is my conclusion that the actions of the right are harsher on the general Public than the actions of the left.

I am in agreement that there is a middle ground between the 2 basic ideals need to be retained.
It is in keeping things in the right balance that is important.
The differences in the extremes of the 2 are each under attack.
While a more balance role is needed.
A view that each of as individuals can live with.
Just keep up your campaign against those democrats... (show quote)


You're probably what everyone hoped I would be, a left leaning moderate.
But, to their disappointment, I've never been moderate about anything, and I am an immoderate deplorable Trump supporter. I don't have the interest of the poor at heart, that's not what government should do, I have America's interest at heart, leave charity to the locals and health care to the doctors.
America First, first in military might, and first in economic growth.
The rest will take care of itself without the government.

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Sep 26, 2018 23:36:28   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
You're probably what everyone hoped I would be, a left leaning moderate.
But, to their disappointment, I've never been moderate about anything, and I am an immoderate deplorable Trump supporter. I don't have the interest of the poor at heart, that's not what government should do, I have America's interest at heart, leave charity to the locals and health care to the doctors.
America First, first in military might, and first in economic growth.
The rest will take care of itself without the government.
You're probably what everyone hoped I would be, a... (show quote)


Sad to say that 's the plan.

Only the rest don't play by the same rules of your plan.
Plus there are more of them than those like you.

You have something to lose.
They don't. They have much to gain.
You don't have enough money to pay some one to die for you.
If one of them dies There may be 2 or more to replace each on of them.

You need some one to fight for you.
They will bring the fight to you.
They are not afraid of dying.

Me! Well I hope to be able to duck & run.
I have the ducking down okay.
The running will be a problem

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