I Agree With A Business Owner's Right To Refuse To Cater To Gays, But Make Them Own It
Oldsalt wrote:
My business is teaching concealed carry and I refuse to teach anyone that I feel uncomfortable with. If I don’t feel that in my opinion you are a responsible person to carry a firearm, I won’t teach you. You will not get a certificate from me. I don’t care what you do behind closed doors I won’t teach you.
Fits my profile, I have over the years told dozens of people who wanted my advice as to protection guns to carry, my advice to many has been don't, you do not have what it takes to use deadly force. That has nothing to do with race or sex.
On the other hand those who had the right mentality I recommended guns specific to their circumstances. A woman I was dating in a small remote town was a bartender at the Georgetown Hotel. She had dated a biker doing prison time for k*****g someone, he got out while I was still going out with her. People that knew him said he was going to k**l her for going out with someone, told her it would be best for her and I to leave town. She wanted a gun for defense so I took her out with a Colt Python I had, she was an excellent shot and had no problem with the recoil. I told her that if she pointed it at him she better be prepared to use it without hesitation, she told me not to worry about that. This guy was 6'5" and pure bad to the bone.
He showed up at around midnight, she lived next door to the hotel in a cottage. He went to the bar looking for her, people told him she was at her house. He went to the door and pounded on it telling her to open up, he was going to k**l her. There were close to 30 witnesses standing out on the veranda watching as she opened the door. She opened it with the .357 pointed right between his eyes, he told her "b***h you don't have the balls to shoot, which was the last word out of his mouth. I had loaded it with +P Glasers, there were pieces of his brains 40 feet away. She was taken in for brief questioning and released. With so many people verifying that he was going to k**l her it was an open and shut case of self defense.
This was in about 1988, Georgetown California, I don't know if the internet picks up stories from before the age of the internet or not.
Liberty Tree wrote:
That would not work. Even if such a sign was posted activist gays would enter anyway, demand service, and then sue if they did not get it. They are determined to thrust there radical agenda upon everyone. Only Christians can be discriminates against.
In my opinion, everyone misses or ignores the basic point here. Why does anyone start a business selling a product to the public? Only possible answer is to make money, of course. Okay then, if the purpose is to make money, and all money is the same whoever spends it, why should ANY person be denied his/her right to walk into any public business and purchase the product on sale to the public. This basic point/bottom line has nothing whatsoever to do with any personal beliefs of the business owner or of the purchasing customer. It is easy to understand the anger produced in any customer who is denied his/her right to purchase a product being sold to the public for ANY reason, but especially because the business owner dislikes something about the customer. What is difficult, really impossible, to understand is the stance of the business owner. Why would he not grab any/all business possible? Selling his product to strangers is irrelevant to how those customers might live their lives, and is none of the owner's business, just as the customer buying the product is irrelevant to the owner's personal views on anything and is none of the customer's business.
A question for all of you here. Would you say that the owner of your favorite restaurant has the right to not seat and serve homosexuals in his/her restaurant because he/she has religious, or simply strong personal views, against homosexuality? How about if a homosexual person wanted to have his/her birthday dinner in the restaurant's private dining room with 25 guests? Just wondering.
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