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Sep 17, 2018 09:04:44   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
woodguru wrote:
You don't "know" there's no god, it's more like just not caring if there is or isn't, it doesn't matter when values are baked in, I'll take the purely christian values of an atheist that lives according to values of kindness and respect for other people, no matter who and what they are.

Atheists are not the only people who cherish values of kindness and respect for other people.

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Sep 17, 2018 09:59:03   #
TrueAmerican
 
Kevyn wrote:
They are just pandering to snake handlers, thinking Americans need to hold them accountable. Biblical creationism is thoroughly disproven nonsense.


Hogwash !!!!!!

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Sep 17, 2018 11:31:03   #
Kazudy
 
PeterS wrote:
In 2008 GOP p**********l candidates were asked if they believed in Darwinian Evolution two-thirds said they did. By 2016 only one Republican candidate, Jeb Bush, admitted to believing in evolution and he added the qualifier that if taught in public schools it should be taught alongside of creationism.

Now the question is: how many actually stopped believing in evolution and how many were simply trying to cover their ass amongst v**ers!

https://www.facebook.com/BigThinkScience/videos/1434061180039335/
In 2008 GOP p**********l candidates were asked if ... (show quote)


Peter, your Hero's last statement"be a beliver in your Church or your home, BUT NOT in the public life" or something to that effect. That is asking the beliver to lie. What the hell man, just because he believes as you surely proves that he is wrong about everything he said.

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Sep 17, 2018 11:37:25   #
Kazudy
 
Kevyn wrote:
They are just pandering to snake handlers, thinking Americans need to hold them accountable. Biblical creationism is thoroughly disproven nonsense.


Hay Dumbo, either the universe was created by a Creator, or NOTHING created everything out Nothing. Do yo really think nothing can create anything?

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Sep 17, 2018 11:41:06   #
Kazudy
 
lindajoy wrote:
Really?? Please enlighten us and tell us how it is disproven and by whom..

Finally, kevvy has the universal question answered..


Linda Linda Linda, remember it's Kevin, he lives in a different world then the rest of us.

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Sep 17, 2018 11:48:17   #
Kazudy
 
Kevyn wrote:
you know, the rubbish about the world being 6000 years old created in a week and man and dinosaurs walking the planet at the same time.


Kevin, there is proof that dinosaurs and humans walk at the same time at the creation museum, and Genisis 1:1 says"In the beginning God created heaven and earth"period. It does not say how long that took. Look who I'm talking to, an alien from the planet Los Locos.

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Sep 17, 2018 14:43:08   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Moses authored the Book of Genesis nearly 4000 years ago. At that time, it wasn't necessary for him to go into great detail about why, how and where in which time, space, matter and energy were created. The English t***slation of the original Hebrew is accurate as far as it goes, but a close study of the first 10 verses of Genesis, in both languages, reveals a striking sequence that has long been a point of contention among Christians, between theologians and scientists, and provides atheists with a ready weapon with which to express their contempt for all things Biblical.

Briefly,

In the 1st verse of Genesis, we see that the earth was without form, and void. (In the English t***slations, "earth" is in lower case, a subtle yet very important point. In Hebrew the word refers to matter or physical particles.) The "earth" remains "without form, and void" until we come to the 9th and 10th verses where "dry land" appeared and God called it "Earth" (Capitalized).

Since one rotation of the Earth established the 24 hour day, and the Earth did not appear as "dry land" until we get to the 9th and 10th verses of Genesis, it is impossible to determine the elapsed time between the "beginning" and the formation of the Earth, planets, and stars. Neither Biblical scholars, theologians or scientists have been able to account for that period of time. No one can say how or what time may be to an Intelligent Creator. The Bible does, on occasion, suggest that time in the eyes of God and in the lives of men are two very different things.

In Psalm 90, the only Psalm attributed to Moses, he concludes that man and God look at time from entirely different perspectives. And, in 2 Peter we see that With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

So, no doubt this debate will go on until the end of time. There is no need to get your panties in a twist over what you ignorantly perceive as "rubbish."
Moses authored the Book of Genesis nearly 4000 yea... (show quote)

Yes, the debate will go on & on. One scripture comes to mind when I read all the above comments; Mark 8:36, “ What profits a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.”

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Sep 17, 2018 15:34:46   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Before I existed I was worth nothing, no value. Since I now exist I must have some value and some purpose or task to perform that only I am capable of. This is true of everyone except libtards, as there is always an exception to the rule.

Darwin's Theory of Evolution was originally called "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Se******n, or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life". No wonder they changed the name to just Origin of Species.

This theory has now become k**l whitey, k**l b****s, k**l babies, k**l old people, k**l the Jews, k**l the Christians, k**l the Muslims,... this is taking too long, what the heck let's k**l everybody. All because peckerhead Darwin Jr. and Sr. didn't want to be called out for bad behavior so they decreed they were atheist, there is no God, and could do what they wanted and to hell on how it affected others.

If God didn't exist He would have had to be invented so we could survive as long as we have. Mankind has never created anything. We just use the resources God gifted us with. A glass test tube from sand, steel from ore, oxygen from trees, clothes from cotton, food from seeds and animals. Even your ideas and thoughts might come from outside yourself.

On a wall in France, this was found... God is Dead, Friedrick Nietzsche... underneath it was written... Nietzsche is Dead, God.

You can be a member of Mensa, go to MIT, IQ off the charts, own Google and Amazon and still be a self-deluded fool.

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Sep 17, 2018 16:21:13   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
In 2008 GOP p**********l candidates were asked if they believed in Darwinian Evolution two-thirds said they did. By 2016 only one Republican candidate, Jeb Bush, admitted to believing in evolution and he added the qualifier that if taught in public schools it should be taught alongside of creationism.

Now the question is: how many actually stopped believing in evolution and how many were simply trying to cover their ass amongst v**ers!

https://www.facebook.com/BigThinkScience/videos/1434061180039335/
In 2008 GOP p**********l candidates were asked if ... (show quote)


I think there's MUCH more to Creation than both sides think.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:20:09   #
PeterS
 
Kazudy wrote:
Peter, your Hero's last statement"be a beliver in your Church or your home, BUT NOT in the public life" or something to that effect. That is asking the beliver to lie. What the hell man, just because he believes as you surely proves that he is wrong about everything he said.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Why don't you figure out what you are talking about and then get back with me. It's not my job to figure out what you are trying to say. It's your job to convince me that what you are saying is true therefore I should change my mind.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:24:47   #
PeterS
 
Peewee wrote:
Before I existed I was worth nothing, no value. Since I now exist I must have some value and some purpose or task to perform that only I am capable of. This is true of everyone except libtards, as there is always an exception to the rule.

Before you existed there was no value for you but value certainly existed for the rest of the world. You are making the assumption that you are everything when you aren't. Why don't you try again and then we will talk about the rest.

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Sep 17, 2018 17:58:13   #
Abel
 
Your article was very good, but I hope you just mis-wrote, and that you are aware that the Earth revolving about the Sun gives us "seasons," whereas the Earth rotating about its own axis is what gives us night and day (dark and light).

It also just might be possible that a Supreme Being, if one exists, came up with the "creation of life" design experimentally, and then this "human life" evolved into what it is today. From what I see of human life as it exists today makes me wonder if this Supreme Being didn't make some very serious mistakes in the designing of the DNA chain toward the later end of the chain, just following the monkey project and just before or during the human project. Humankind appears to have also made a great many mistakes throughout the human evolution part of the process, but fortunately we haven't become extinct over them, YET!

However, IMHO, there are some very wealthy and powerful humans who are working "progressively" and diligently toward that end, using the Sheeple as pawns who should be very careful of what they wish for in this Hellish game they are playing. Humans, guided by the Deep State Operatives of the World, intentionally cause all of our petty "unnatural" problems, and humans can "repair" our petty "unnatural" problems, not some invisible Supreme Being, but WE will be responsible for wh**ever happens to US as a species if we fail to adapt to wh**ever Mother Nature (the Natural Order of Things) gives us to work with. The Deep State, who continually "entertains" us to cover their covert activities, is no friend of our Constitution, our liberty, our freedom, our pursuit of happiness, or our USA as a Sovereign Nation! Become aware of them! Reject them!

woodguru wrote:
He took away your ability to reason so that you would believe anything, and that trait unfortunately is what rolls with political beliefs as well. If FOX and Trump say it the right blindly believes it.

There have been studies being done with what happens in the brain in people subject to beliefs (some people simply are not, it needs to be proved to them) There is a part of the brain that is used and involved in reasoning that is atrophied in a believer. The correlating studies as to why come up with several possible reasons, one being early developmental training as they are growing up. I saw a great example being used by the author of the study results. If one kid is subjected to answers about why the sun comes up in the morning, that it's because god wants us to have light so he gave us the sun. It's an answer designed to stop further curiosity and explorative thinking. Another kid who's parent answers with the technical facts such as...the earth revolves around the sun, and that's why there is dark when the side that's in the shade is on the opposite side.

The one answer is the result of a lazy brain that creates an unimaginative kid, the brain is not going to work as well as far as reasoning.

The other parent, depending on how far they are willing to go might be drawing their kid pictures, and explaining a long list of answers to questions a bright and interested kid is going to have. A kid who is encouraged to think about technical science based things is going to be using that reasoning part of their brain far more than the kid who's question was shut down with a faith based answer, where further questions are shut down with a statement that we don't question god and his power and goodness.
He took away your ability to reason so that you wo... (show quote)

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Sep 17, 2018 18:15:17   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
PeterS wrote:
Before you existed there was no value for you but value certainly existed for the rest of the world. You are making the assumption that you are everything when you aren't. Why don't you try again and then we will talk about the rest.


Do you practice misunderstanding other people or is it a gift? I was representing mankind using myself as an example. Your light bulb is burned out dude. Those mercury light bulbs are dangerous.

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Sep 17, 2018 18:52:45   #
Carol Kelly
 
padremike wrote:
Why do you believe it is necessary that they must be competing philosophies? Rene Descartes said,"I think, therefore I am." I tell you "God is, therefore I am" and He gave me the ability to think so that I can know Him.


Once again, amen.

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Sep 17, 2018 18:56:22   #
Carol Kelly
 
BigMike wrote:
I think there's MUCH more to Creation than both sides think.


You may be onto something.

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