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Sep 4, 2018 13:52:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
padremike wrote:
You've read a summation on his opinions of p**********l powers and come to your own conclusions I gather? Would you care to share them with us?


You first padre!

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Sep 4, 2018 13:53:52   #
woodguru
 
padremike wrote:
You've read a summation on his opinions of p**********l powers and come to your own conclusions I gather? Would you care to share them with us?


His opinion states that he does not feel that the POTUS should be subjected to rules of law applicable to other men. His attitude is that any legal issues arising can wait until he is no longer president.

Kavanaugh is a joke as the last word on the constitution, it would mean no more than it did to Scalise

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Sep 4, 2018 13:58:39   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
His opinion states that he does not feel that the POTUS should be subjected to rules of law applicable to other men. His attitude is that any legal issues arising can wait until he is no longer president.

Kavanaugh is a joke as the last word on the constitution, it would mean no more than it did to Scalise


Incorrect. His opinion is that presidents should not be indicted and that perhaps they cannot; he said it hasn't been decided. He supports impeachment, however, as the way to confront a president while in office.

You can read about it woody.

http://www.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaugh-opinions-on-impeachment-and-indictment-2018-7

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Sep 4, 2018 14:11:21   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
padremike wrote:
Are you stating something as fact that is merely your opinion?


Fact? LOL.

You've confused for with someone else

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Sep 4, 2018 14:14:26   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Super Dave wrote:
Fact? LOL.

You've confused for with someone else


Flake is being flakey again!!!!

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Sep 4, 2018 14:20:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
His opinion states that he does not feel that the POTUS should be subjected to rules of law applicable to other men. His attitude is that any legal issues arising can wait until he is no longer president.

Kavanaugh is a joke as the last word on the constitution, it would mean no more than it did to Scalise


This is a real sticking point with my liberal friends. They seem to not understand the difference between indictment and impeachment, although I'd imagine both are just as distracting. His opinion that Clinton could have spent more time working to get Osama Bin Laden had he not been dealing with so much legal stuff is odd.

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Sep 4, 2018 14:26:42   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
His opinion states that he does not feel that the POTUS should be subjected to rules of law applicable to other men. His attitude is that any legal issues arising can wait until he is no longer president.

Kavanaugh is a joke as the last word on the constitution, it would mean no more than it did to Scalise
That is not Kavanaugh's opinion, it is a constitutional principle that, on two occasions, led the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel to determine that a sitting president cannot be indicted for a crime. The POTUS IS NOT a private citizen, the only means to remove a POTUS from office is Impeachment, which is a political process, not a legal one.

The OLC reasoned that:

The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.

Dept of Justice OLC Memorandum

There is no doubt that the democrat frenzy during this confirmation hearing is just one more l*****t schizoid freak show. Kavanaugh will be the next associate Justice on the Supreme Court.

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Sep 4, 2018 14:31:23   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
That is not Kavanaugh's opinion, it is a constitutional principle that, on two occasions, led the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel to determine that a sitting president cannot be indicted for a crime. The POTUS IS NOT a private citizen, the only means to remove a POTUS from office is Impeachment, which is a political process, not a legal one.

The OLC reasoned that:

The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.

There is no doubt that the democrat frenzy during this confirmation hearing is just one more l*****t schizoid freak show. Kavanaugh will be the next associate Justice on the Supreme Court.
That is not Kavanaugh's opinion, it is a constitut... (show quote)


Have you noticed that Blumenthal's face looks like a rat???

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Sep 4, 2018 14:32:49   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
woodguru wrote:
Why won't republicans simply follow the normal rules that apply to confirmations? Every case Obama's nominees ever sat on was scrutinized for bias and adherence to the law.

Kavanaugh has written rulings that show he is unfit to be a member of SCOTUS, his anti a******n position just last year was overturned in an appeals court.


What exactly was Kavanaugh's "anti a******n" position that was overturned? I'm unfamiliar with your statement. My own position, if you are interested, is that the number of unborn children "ripped out of the wombs of mothers"** thus far in America is sixty million. That number is basically the same number of military and civilians combined which were k**led during World War II in both the European and Pacific Theatres. To my unsophisticated mind that would make Hitler's holocaust appear that he was a mere amateur compared to the Democratic Party and those few Republicans standing in support. But that just my own observation.

** I use the term "ripped out of the wombs of mothers in America" to compare and contrast with the Democrat talking point that i*****l a***n children were "ripped out of the arms" of their mothers by ICE instead of being temporarily separated.

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Sep 4, 2018 14:37:29   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
padremike wrote:
What exactly was Kavanaugh's "anti a******n" position that was overturned? I'm unfamiliar with your statement. My own position, if you are interested, is that the number of unborn children "ripped out of the wombs of mothers"** thus far in America is sixty million. That number is basically the same number of military and civilians combined which were k**led during World War II in both the European and Pacific Theatres. To my unsophisticated mind that would make Hitler's holocaust appear that he was a mere amateur compared to the Democratic Party and those few Republicans standing in support. But that just my own observation.

** I use the term "ripped out of the wombs of mothers in America" to compare and contrast with the Democrat talking point that i*****l a***n children were "ripped out of the arms" of their mothers by ICE instead of being temporarily separated.
What exactly was Kavanaugh's "anti a******n&q... (show quote)



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Sep 4, 2018 15:40:04   #
acknowledgeurma
 
JFlorio wrote:
You are the most uninformed poster on OPP and that's saying something. They have 300 actual opinions on cases from Kavanaugh. More than any of the other justices in recent memory. It's his opinions on case law that are relevant and is he qualified? Of course he is. More documents from him than any other nominee. If you were hones (oxymoron; liberal and honest) you would admit that this is all show. Everyone has made up their minds whether one more document is given or a million. This is all theater.
You are the most uninformed poster on OPP and that... (show quote)

Whereas you are one of the most informed of posters on OPP - in the techniques of rhetoric. Your sk**l in deploying ad hominem arguments, your sk**l in stuffing straw into old clothes,... Ah, truly impressive.

You characterize me as "liberal". I understand you use it as an epithet of calumny. As such, you have no use for (dare I say knowledge of?) its common meaning. But let me refresh our readers' understanding.

Googling liberal:
adjective 1. open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values.
noun 1. a person of liberal views.

You characterize the combination of liberal and honest as oxymoron.

Googling honest:
adjective 1. free of deceit and unt***hfulness; sincere.
* morally correct or virtuous.
* fairly earned, especially through hard work.
* (of an action) blameless or well intentioned even if unsuccessful or misguided.
* simple, unpretentious, and unsophisticated.

Perhaps because I am "the most uninformed poster on OPP", looking over the various combinations of these definitions, I can find no contradiction. Could you elucidate? Oh wait, I forget, you are not making a logical argument (am I using ad hominem argument, accusing you of illogic?).

I would agree that the Senate hearings are a show, perhaps even "all theater". It is not clear that all the Senators have made up their minds, some have already stated how they will v**e, some (both Republican and Democratic) have not. When you call these proceedings a "show", It seems apparent that you intend it as criticism. I see it as an opportunity to "show" us the information on which this important decision will be made. Given this, it seems as if the Republicans want to limit the information, whereas to Democrats want more information.

Sen. Klobuchar: Wow!
Sen. Sasse: Wow!
Sen. Coons: Wow!
Sen. Flake: Folksy, but unclear what point he wants to push, if any.
Sen. Blumenthal: Subtle...
Sen. Kennedy: He seems to be repeating Sen. Sasse's point, but more folksy. He's still talking...

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Sep 4, 2018 15:42:21   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
JFlorio wrote:
The sad part. Democrats on the committee and the democrat senators at large have already made up their minds. This is all for show.


As Senator Cruz said, the Dems on the committee have already said they will v**e No and all of those on the floor have said the same thing.

My wife keeps running through the house carrying on about how many words they haven't read, yet. I have to keep telling her that they won't be reading any of those things but may make their staffs read for them and then report what they read.

I thought Cruz delivered his speech better than those of either party.

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Sep 4, 2018 15:45:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
oldroy wrote:
As Senator Cruz said, the Dems on the committee have already said they will v**e No and all of those on the floor have said the same thing.

My wife keeps running through the house carrying on about how many words they haven't read, yet. I have to keep telling her that they won't be reading any of those things but may make their staffs read for them and then report what they read.

I thought Cruz delivered his speech better than those of either party.


They won't read anything. It's decided, all because Trump nominated him. Period. End of story.

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Sep 4, 2018 15:47:11   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Trump picked him only because he thinks that when one of the court cases agents him gets to the high court he will save him! The American people remember that republicans wouldn't
Even consider Obama's nominie! And we will see you at the poles!


Do you intend to invite us to the light poles for something or are you talking about the polls where we go to v**e? Is there a chance that you think the Dems are carrying on much different than the good guys did at the hearing you are talking about? Do you really think that the GOPs are acting much different than the Dims did when they were the minority and lost the Obama appointment.

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Sep 4, 2018 15:50:55   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
With access to only a manicured 10% of Kavanaugh's record, it would be difficult to have anything other than an uninformed opinion; the Democrats are merely asking for a more complete access to Kavanaugh's record. For some reason, the Republicans are suppressing this access.


Where did you come up with that 10% number? That sounds like something from the al Times of New York or the WAPO.

In case you don't know all the Dems are doing is try to hold things back a bit before the bitter end slaps them.

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