America---Heed this statement from the Late Senator John McCain
Sep 1, 2018 09:47:52 #
Why are people on this forum so critical?
This thread is about remembering John McCain. His sacrifices and his accomplishments. I liked John McCain, even though I didn't agree with him.
Biden, Obama, hell even Bill and Hillary liked him, in addition to the Bushes. See John McCain did something that no one else did in this generation, John worked with Americans. Not Lefties or Righties, but Americans. For that I respect and honor him.
As far as Donald Trump vs. John McCain, you have to realize, I like Donald Trump too.
Donald has done things that John McCain couldn't do. Like exposing the snakes in Washington. He's breaking the establishment's monopoly.
Are We, Americans, so blinded by competition and so vengeful against one another, that we lose focus of what true freedom and the true fight for freedom is?
Have any of you been overseas where a true honest to God, dictator ruled? Did you witness Saddam Hussein's brutality? When we freed the Iraqi people, in Desert Storm and Iraqi freedom, the people took back their country. But with Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda, with ISIS destroying with the same brute force, the American freedom, in the manner of Hussein the American lives that were lost, were lost in vain.
Now that is true dictatorship. Whereas Trump is no dictator. And t***h be told, all Trump wants is to take care of America, and help the country. He is succeeding on two fronts. The economy and security. Make no mistake, just like Trump has ghosts in his closet, so does John McCain. Yet, if McCain were still alive, he would finally come to terms with Trump and may understand that Trump and McCain fight for the same cause but in very different ways. I don't think John fully understood this.
At John's request, Trump was not to go to his funeral. John didn't want Trump to acknowledge anything about him. He was that upset with the president. That is perfectly fine. However, for the press to go after Trump, for Trump respecting John's wishes is called "dirty politics" and is very unfair to John McCain and Donald Trump.
Yet the left keeps it up, with their speeches and relentless attacks on Trump. Also some of you think that's perfectly fine. But when the shoe is on the other foot, I have witnessed, that they complain, b***h, and moan about Trump and how "ruthless and vulgar" he is. Put yourself in Trumps shoes, how would you react, or overreact if it was you they had a likeness of with the severed head? On the same token, put yourself in Cindy McCain's shoes. Where her husband addresses America, and directs them with working with each other, not against them.
As far as Obamacare, John h**ed that referendum, mandate and anything that went with it. I believe he was at a loss of how to stop it. He blatantly said to me that Obama, "didn't only trample over our rights, but he down right galloped over them."
But like an establishment guy, John did nothing about it. Nor could he find support for that cause. He too was suffering with a sickness that took his life. And for the time being it was wiser to leave the law alone then to repeal it.
Did you not read John's statement at the beginning of this thread?
Why don't people search for solutions, rather then find the need to crucify their fellow American?
Now John has made some mistakes, so has anyone who's involved in the Federal and State governments. Sometimes those mistakes comes back to haunt us. But that does not change the fact that both Trump and McCain were fighting for the right. A cause bigger than ourselves. But many people turn a deaf ear.
I guess Thomas Jefferson was correct when he wrote "......and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
John wrote "We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. We weaken it when we hide behind walls, rather than tear them down, when we doubt the power of our ideals, rather than trust them to be the great force for change they have always been.
We are three-hundred-and-twenty-five million opinionated, vociferous individuals. We argue and compete and sometimes even vilify each other in our raucous public debates. But we have always had so much more in common with each other than in disagreement. If only we remember that and give each other the benefit of the presumption that we all love our country we will get through these challenging times. We will come through them stronger than before. We always do."
Yet in the heat of battle we forget the farewell of John McCain: "Do not despair of our present difficulties but believe always in the promise and greatness of America, because nothing is inevitable here. Americans never quit. We never surrender. We never hide from history. We make history."
Donald Trump is exposing the evil in Washington, just like Jimmy Stewart did in "Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Senator McCain was like Senator Payne. Here's a quote from that movie,
" I know how you feel, Jeff. Thirty years ago - I had those ideals, too. I was *you*. I had to make the decision you were asked to make today. And I c*********d - yes! So that all these years I could stay in that Senate - and serve the people in a thousand honest ways! You've got to face facts, Jeff. I've served our state well, haven't I? We have the lowest unemployment and the highest federal grants. But, well, I've had to compromise, had to play ball. You can't count on people v****g, half the time they don't v**e, anyway. That's how states and empires have been built since time began. Don't you understand? Well, Jeff, you can take my word for it, that's how things are. Now I've told you all this because - well, I've grown very fond of you - about like a son - in fact, and I don't want to see you get hurt. Now, when that deficiency bill comes up in the Senate tomorrow, you stay away from it. Don't say a word. Great powers are behind it, and they'll destroy you before you can even get started. For your own sake, Jeff, and for the sake of my friendship with your father, please, don't say a word."
Well Jefferson Smith opened his mouth, and it seems like Senator McCain was Senator Payne, and Donald Trump is Jefferson Smith.
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was written in 1939 and starred Jimmy Stewart. Yet the phrases written in that movie, are still true today.
So before you go bashing Senator McCain, or you go bashing Donald Trump, remember Mr. Smith goes to Washington!
This thread is about remembering John McCain. His sacrifices and his accomplishments. I liked John McCain, even though I didn't agree with him.
Biden, Obama, hell even Bill and Hillary liked him, in addition to the Bushes. See John McCain did something that no one else did in this generation, John worked with Americans. Not Lefties or Righties, but Americans. For that I respect and honor him.
As far as Donald Trump vs. John McCain, you have to realize, I like Donald Trump too.
Donald has done things that John McCain couldn't do. Like exposing the snakes in Washington. He's breaking the establishment's monopoly.
Are We, Americans, so blinded by competition and so vengeful against one another, that we lose focus of what true freedom and the true fight for freedom is?
Have any of you been overseas where a true honest to God, dictator ruled? Did you witness Saddam Hussein's brutality? When we freed the Iraqi people, in Desert Storm and Iraqi freedom, the people took back their country. But with Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda, with ISIS destroying with the same brute force, the American freedom, in the manner of Hussein the American lives that were lost, were lost in vain.
Now that is true dictatorship. Whereas Trump is no dictator. And t***h be told, all Trump wants is to take care of America, and help the country. He is succeeding on two fronts. The economy and security. Make no mistake, just like Trump has ghosts in his closet, so does John McCain. Yet, if McCain were still alive, he would finally come to terms with Trump and may understand that Trump and McCain fight for the same cause but in very different ways. I don't think John fully understood this.
At John's request, Trump was not to go to his funeral. John didn't want Trump to acknowledge anything about him. He was that upset with the president. That is perfectly fine. However, for the press to go after Trump, for Trump respecting John's wishes is called "dirty politics" and is very unfair to John McCain and Donald Trump.
Yet the left keeps it up, with their speeches and relentless attacks on Trump. Also some of you think that's perfectly fine. But when the shoe is on the other foot, I have witnessed, that they complain, b***h, and moan about Trump and how "ruthless and vulgar" he is. Put yourself in Trumps shoes, how would you react, or overreact if it was you they had a likeness of with the severed head? On the same token, put yourself in Cindy McCain's shoes. Where her husband addresses America, and directs them with working with each other, not against them.
As far as Obamacare, John h**ed that referendum, mandate and anything that went with it. I believe he was at a loss of how to stop it. He blatantly said to me that Obama, "didn't only trample over our rights, but he down right galloped over them."
But like an establishment guy, John did nothing about it. Nor could he find support for that cause. He too was suffering with a sickness that took his life. And for the time being it was wiser to leave the law alone then to repeal it.
Did you not read John's statement at the beginning of this thread?
Why don't people search for solutions, rather then find the need to crucify their fellow American?
Now John has made some mistakes, so has anyone who's involved in the Federal and State governments. Sometimes those mistakes comes back to haunt us. But that does not change the fact that both Trump and McCain were fighting for the right. A cause bigger than ourselves. But many people turn a deaf ear.
I guess Thomas Jefferson was correct when he wrote "......and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
John wrote "We weaken our greatness when we confuse our patriotism with tribal rivalries that have sown resentment and hatred and violence in all the corners of the globe. We weaken it when we hide behind walls, rather than tear them down, when we doubt the power of our ideals, rather than trust them to be the great force for change they have always been.
We are three-hundred-and-twenty-five million opinionated, vociferous individuals. We argue and compete and sometimes even vilify each other in our raucous public debates. But we have always had so much more in common with each other than in disagreement. If only we remember that and give each other the benefit of the presumption that we all love our country we will get through these challenging times. We will come through them stronger than before. We always do."
Yet in the heat of battle we forget the farewell of John McCain: "Do not despair of our present difficulties but believe always in the promise and greatness of America, because nothing is inevitable here. Americans never quit. We never surrender. We never hide from history. We make history."
Donald Trump is exposing the evil in Washington, just like Jimmy Stewart did in "Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Senator McCain was like Senator Payne. Here's a quote from that movie,
" I know how you feel, Jeff. Thirty years ago - I had those ideals, too. I was *you*. I had to make the decision you were asked to make today. And I c*********d - yes! So that all these years I could stay in that Senate - and serve the people in a thousand honest ways! You've got to face facts, Jeff. I've served our state well, haven't I? We have the lowest unemployment and the highest federal grants. But, well, I've had to compromise, had to play ball. You can't count on people v****g, half the time they don't v**e, anyway. That's how states and empires have been built since time began. Don't you understand? Well, Jeff, you can take my word for it, that's how things are. Now I've told you all this because - well, I've grown very fond of you - about like a son - in fact, and I don't want to see you get hurt. Now, when that deficiency bill comes up in the Senate tomorrow, you stay away from it. Don't say a word. Great powers are behind it, and they'll destroy you before you can even get started. For your own sake, Jeff, and for the sake of my friendship with your father, please, don't say a word."
Well Jefferson Smith opened his mouth, and it seems like Senator McCain was Senator Payne, and Donald Trump is Jefferson Smith.
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington was written in 1939 and starred Jimmy Stewart. Yet the phrases written in that movie, are still true today.
So before you go bashing Senator McCain, or you go bashing Donald Trump, remember Mr. Smith goes to Washington!
Sep 1, 2018 11:02:29 #
Bad Bob
Loc: Virginia
Ranger7374 wrote:
Why are people on this forum so critical? br br T... (show quote)
"Why are people on this forum so critical?" Ignorance & h**e
Sep 2, 2018 00:07:46 #
Bad Bob wrote:
"Why are people on this forum so critical?" Ignorance & h**e
Knowledge Trumps Ignorance and Love Trumps h**e.
What's in common with both statements?
Trump..........MAGA!
Sep 6, 2018 06:08:48 #
Ranger7374 wrote:
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Ranger,
I suggest you watch this short video of what Vietnam veterans, POW's, and other politicians had to say about John McCain and his efforts to obscure the t***h about America's POW's. https://youtu.be/4hr37eE0nO8
Is this really someone you want to call a friend and patriot?
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