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Aug 27, 2018 13:00:39   #
Airforceone
 
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me



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Aug 27, 2018 13:16:48   #
Lonewolf
 
what do you expect from capt bone spurs





Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me

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Aug 27, 2018 13:17:43   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Just another unless excuse, so McCain's your buddy now?




Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me

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Aug 27, 2018 13:21:26   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me


That is a lie!!

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Aug 27, 2018 13:36:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me

You've been sick for a long time. You're just having another conniption episode. Don't worry, this fit will pass and you can get ready for the next one.

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Aug 27, 2018 13:39:30   #
bahmer
 
bmac32 wrote:
Just another unless excuse, so McCain's your buddy now?


I remember when McCain ran for president that many of his POW buddies did not share glowing reports of him. In fact if I remember correctly they had labeled John McCain as songbird McCain. Also as the way that he conducted himself as a supposed republican he was far from that as well he would have made a better democrat than a republican and for that he had no traction when he ran for president with Sarah Palin she was the main draw not him.

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Aug 27, 2018 14:20:04   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me



It was, Stormy Daniels as the hype, now it's a "man" of questionable character...

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Aug 27, 2018 14:25:04   #
JoyV
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me


WE don't know if he ordered the rule laid out in the constitution to be followed, or simply did NOT order it to be set aside as has been done in the past. But in any case, when is it a crime to NOT show honor to a t*****r to our constitution? He gave condolences to the family but never made it a secret how he felt about Sen. John McCain.

The United States Constitution stipulates that the f**g over the White House be flown at half mast starting at the time of death of a Congressman and for one full day after. While the f**g over Congress be flown until the burial. Presidents in the past have ordered the white House f**g to be flown longer than the Constitution calls for.

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Aug 27, 2018 14:27:41   #
JoyV
 
bahmer wrote:
I remember when McCain ran for president that many of his POW buddies did not share glowing reports of him. In fact if I remember correctly they had labeled John McCain as songbird McCain. Also as the way that he conducted himself as a supposed republican he was far from that as well he would have made a better democrat than a republican and for that he had no traction when he ran for president with Sarah Palin she was the main draw not him.


AS a veteran, I concur with his fellow POW companions, and consider him to be a betrayer of America.

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Aug 27, 2018 14:47:09   #
woodguru
 
bahmer wrote:
I remember when McCain ran for president that many of his POW buddies did not share glowing reports of him. In fact if I remember correctly they had labeled John McCain as songbird McCain. Also as the way that he conducted himself as a supposed republican he was far from that as well he would have made a better democrat than a republican and for that he had no traction when he ran for president with Sarah Palin she was the main draw not him.


Half mast is half mast for anyone in government. I'm wondering if this is even true, Trump couldn't possibly be this stupid...not even Trump

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Aug 27, 2018 14:49:16   #
woodguru
 
JoyV wrote:
AS a veteran, I concur with his fellow POW companions, and consider him to be a betrayer of America.


Regardless, f**gs would be flown at half mast for any senate or house member that dies, there is no decision as to who gets it and who doesn't...

Heck, the f**g would even be flown at half mast if Trump were to die

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Aug 27, 2018 14:50:47   #
woodguru
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me


Does that check out that he really did that?

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Aug 27, 2018 14:55:16   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
JoyV wrote:
AS a veteran, I concur with his fellow POW companions, and consider him to be a betrayer of America.

From a 'Nam Vet...with respect to all of his political critics (of which I am one), I will post the following statements regarding John McCain.

http://www.historynet.com/bud-day-vietnam-war-pow-hero.htm (go down to where MOH winner Colonel Day spoke of his time with John McCain)

Also, from (Viet) NAM-POWs President Mike McGrath

"I thought you needed to see a message that I sent to some folks who were establishing web pages with completely false stories which had been submitted to them as true stories. They agreed to stop after learning that they had received bogus information.

NAM-POW names of: Jerry Driscoll, Larry Carrigan, and A.J. Myers have been connected, falsely, with the below stories. If any of you see these false stories passed around the net from group to group, please send a copy of this message to the sender and try to get this nonsense and slander of McCain, Driscoll, Carrigan, and A.J stopped.

Next, the false stories of John McCain's conduct. Again, there are false stories floating around the net about McCain. He was never missing from our group for six months.

He never co-operated with the enemy.

We have dozens of us who lived with and around John for his entire time (10-26-67 to 14 March 73). Larry Carrigan, for one, lived with or near both John and Ted Guy. Larry says Ted would never make the statements which are being attributed to him ...and Ted can't set the record straight because he is dead.

We have dozens of roommates who will vouch for the loyalty and courage and conduct of John McCain.

Here is a more accurate story: John had both arms and at least one leg badly hurt on ejection. He was bayoneted near the groin by a soldier as they were pulling him from the lake. After three days of interrogations and no cooperation, he was near death. They found out his father was Admiral McCain. They stopped the interrogations, gave him medical care, brought in a French reporter (with camera), and let him make a statement to his family that he was alive and would recover and come home.

After laying off the rough stuff, and trying to get John to cooperate by the "good guy" treatment for a couple of weeks, they got pissed off that he would not give information or cooperate. So, they threw him in a cell with Bud Day (MOH recipient) and Maj Norris Overly. McCain was in danger of dying from maltreatment. Maj Overly had to nurse both men back to health.

From that point on, McCain resisted just as hard as any other POW. He went through the same interrogations and treatment. His roommates can testify to his valor and patriotism.

In short, I think that the slanderous reports by faceless people (and some are attributed to Ted Guy...which I doubt are true) are from the bunch who are really pissed off that McCain made a political decision to back Clinton when Clinton decided it was time for "normalization" of diplomatic and trade relations, and it was time to have Ambassadorial level representation. To many, that made John a t*****r.

To most, it was just a political reality. It opened the door to better cooperation for a host of areas, including a full accounting of the POW/MIA issue (which is still an ongoing issue today. We have 2,060 yet to account for).

If you want to get the straight story on McCain's conduct, please contact his roommates. Start with the Honorable Orson Swindle at OrsonIII@aol.com. Thanks for helping shut down these phony stories. Again, you can copy this paragraph if it will help."

Mike McGrath, (Viet) NAM-POW's President

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Aug 27, 2018 15:11:25   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
slatten49 wrote:
.historynet.com/bud-day-vietnam-war-pow-hero.htm

From a 'Nam Vet...with respect to all of his political critics (of which I am one), I will post the following statements regarding John McCain.

From (Viet) NAM-POWs President Mike McGrath

"I thought you needed to see a message that I sent to some folks who were establishing web pages with completely false stories which had been submitted to them as true stories. They agreed to stop after learning that they had received bogus information.

NAM-POW names of: Jerry Driscoll, Larry Carrigan, and A.J. Myers have been connected, falsely, with the below stories. If any of you see these false stories passed around the net from group to group, please send a copy of this message to the sender and try to get this nonsense and slander of McCain, Driscoll, Carrigan, and A.J stopped.

Next, the false stories of John McCain's conduct. Again, there are false stories floating around the net about McCain. He was never missing from our group for six months.

He never co-operated with the enemy.

We have dozens of us who lived with and around John for his entire time (10-26-67 to 14 March 73). Larry Carrigan, for one, lived with or near both John and Ted Guy. Larry says Ted would never make the statements which are being attributed to him ...and Ted can't set the record straight because he is dead.

We have dozens of roommates who will vouch for the loyalty and courage and conduct of John McCain.

Here is a more accurate story: John had both arms and at least one leg badly hurt on ejection. He was bayoneted near the groin by a soldier as they were pulling him from the lake. After three days of interrogations and no cooperation, he was near death. They found out his father was Admiral McCain. They stopped the interrogations, gave him medical care, brought in a French reporter (with camera), and let him make a statement to his family that he was alive and would recover and come home.

After laying off the rough stuff, and trying to get John to cooperate by the "good guy" treatment for a couple of weeks, they got pissed off that he would not give information or cooperate. So, they threw him in a cell with Bud Day (MOH recipient) and Maj Norris Overly. McCain was in danger of dying from maltreatment. Maj Overly had to nurse both men back to health.

From that point on, McCain resisted just as hard as any other POW. He went through the same interrogations and treatment. His roommates can testify to his valor and patriotism.

In short, I think that the slanderous reports by faceless people (and some are attributed to Ted Guy...which I doubt are true) are from the bunch who are really pissed off that McCain made a political decision to back Clinton when Clinton decided it was time for "normalization" of diplomatic and trade relations, and it was time to have Ambassadorial level representation. To many, that made John a t*****r.

To most, it was just a political reality. It opened the door to better cooperation for a host of areas, including a full accounting of the POW/MIA issue (which is still an ongoing issue today. We have 2,060 yet to account for).

If you want to get the straight story on McCain's conduct, please contact his roommates. Start with the Honorable Orson Swindle at OrsonIII@aol.com. Thanks for helping shut down these phony stories. Again, you can copy this paragraph if it will help."

Mike McGrath, (Viet) NAM-POW's President
.historynet.com/bud-day-vietnam-war-pow-hero.htm b... (show quote)

"from the bunch who are really pissed off that McCain made a political decision to back Clinton when Clinton decided it was time for "normalization" of diplomatic and trade relations, and it was time to have Ambassadorial level representation."

I do not take issue with McCain's service as a Navy pilot and his suffering in the Hanoi Hilton. I do not see him as a t*****r. But as a politician, he was a misguided fool.

He backed the worst POTUS candidate in American history? In God's name why??? As SecState, she certainly showed us how well she "normalized" diplomatic and trade relations and what she thought of "Ambassadorial representation."

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Aug 27, 2018 15:31:11   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
There is a rule for flying the f**g, when, where, and for how long, and for whom..... it is specific on the duration.." The f**g shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The f**g shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection—

This is located in 4 U.S. Code § 7 - Position and manner of display.

The f**g over the Capitol was flown for the prescribed time line.

Airforceone wrote:
Trump ordered the White House f**g which was at half mast in a tribute to John McCain and then he ordered it to full . What John McCain did for this country and then think about that d********g piece of garbage in the White House has done for this country and this fool would not put our f**g h*****g over the White House at half mast.

Wow it sickens me

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