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Aug 25, 2018 06:54:38   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. Here are the candidates:

1. Donald Trump 11. Carly Fiorina 21. Jim Webb
2. Hillary Clinton 12. Rick Santorum 22. Scott Walker
3. Bernie Sanders 13. Rand Paul 23. Rick Perry
4. John Kasich 14. Martin O’Malley
5. Ted Cruz 15. Mike Huckabee
6. Marco Rubio 16. George Pataki
7. Ben Carson 17. Lindsey Graham
8. Jeb Bush 18. Bobby Jindal
9. Jim Gilmore 19. Lawrence Lessig
10. Chris Christie 20. Lincoln Chafee

By Nov. 1, the candidates that were on the General E******n B****t were:

1. Donald Trump (Republican), 2. Hillary Clinton(Democrat), 3. Jill Stein(Green Party),
4. Gary Johnson (Libertarian), 5. Darrell Lane Castle(Constitutional Party), 6. Rocky De La Fuente (Reform Party)
7. Evan McMullin (Independent), 8. Gloria Estela La Riva (Party for Socialism and Liberation)

On Nov 8th, America v**ed and Donald Trump was named as the winner. Two months later, the NY Times wrote an article that started the "witch hunt" or Russian Collusion accusation. The NY Times, and the Washington Post accused Trump of Colluding with the Russians. In December, the Obama Justice department started an investigation into Russian Meddling in an American e******n. I have sufficient evidence to believe that the investigation was not only illegal but also violated President Trump's rights as a United States Citizen, as well as the Office of the President of the United States. In that same month, President Obama's White House certified the e******n results making Trump our president. Trump then fires the attorney general of the United States as one of his first actions as president, and appoints Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Meanwhile Robert Mueller begins an independent council investigation on Collusion.

As an American Citizen, and as a taxpayer, veteran of two wars, and as a concerned citizen, who is following the entire Mueller investigation, I believe that the investigation is one sided. That is the Mueller investigation or probe, chose only one candidate, from about 30 candidates who had interest in the office of President. And Trump with his tweets has not helped the situation. Like him or h**e him, I also believe that Trump has a big mouth. I am not stating feelings here, all I am reporting is the facts. But my opinion is that Trump is his own worst enemy due to his mouth.

Anyways, for a proper fair investigation to be performed, all candidates should be looked at. We know from press reports that Trump, Clinton, Jeb Bush and others had business ties towards Russia. We also know from these reports that Michael Flynn made money off of Russia, and was fired by President Trump, only when he lied to the Vice President. We also know that Trump fired Manafort, and his personal lawyer Michael Cohn. We also know that Jeb Bush originally purchased the famous "Trump" dossier. Which according to many reports was proven false. We know that Hillary Clinton purchased it from Bush.

We also know that the DNC was hacked and we know some intelligence evidence was stolen from an FBI car outside Trump tower. What the evidence was we may never know.

We also know, that the FBI under James Comey, was investigating Hillary Clinton for emails and the compromise of classified material. All the actions that were set forth by this particular investigation has led to a relentless attack on Donald Trump. This is fact not opinion.

Today, when we watch the news, especially the anchor men and women on MSNBC, we find constant attacks on Trump. To the point of possible slander.

Flynn, Manafort, Comey, Cohen, and others have proven their true colors and yes they should be punished. However, non of the charges thus far has shown that Trump was responsible for the hacking of the DNC, nor colluding with the Russians. Therefore, I am wondering if the investigative team is barking up the wrong tree.

It is possible that Hillary Clinton, or her husband Bill, were not colluding with the Russians either. But she is still suspect in my opinion. I believe there is questionable evidence against Hillary that could be strong. But there is no press coverage about that.
There is also no press coverage on the other candidates trying to sway the e******n their way, with the help of the Russians. And I believe the press is unwittingly giving the Russians way too much credit. The true charge is Russian collusion or even worse Treason. I don't think Donald Trump committed Treason, nor do I believe that Hillary attempted to commit treason. However, due to the lack of coverage, and the evidence that was uncovered by the press, Hillary Clinton is suspect. Or at the very least her campaign.

Other facts to consider is that Bill Clinton campaigned for Hillary at the v****g booth, which according to Massachusetts state law is a felony. That felony has not nor will it be investigated. Why? The Attorney General of Massachusetts, refused to enforce the law and let the Clintons go during the primary. Bernie Sanders supporters were furious. And Trump sympathize and empathize with them. As a result, Trump took on many Bernie supporters at the time.

This action stole v**es from Hillary Clinton. Loretta Lynch meets with Bill Clinton, after Comey just two weeks before the e******n, tells the press that he is reopening the email scandal case against Hillary.

Not to mention the firing of Comey a year later. More and more facts of the actions of just these three candidates keep coming out and what is the American Public to believe.

On top of that, Donald Trump has made our economy strong again. With the economy growing at a rate faster than what anyone expected or even hoped for, is Donald Trump really doing a bad job?

One thing that is sad, is that one side of the aisle ignores the good that Trump does, while the other side celebrates his successes.

Many times on every side of the story, the comment of "Donald Trump is the most divisionist President of all time." However, he isn't. Jame Buchanan who was president before Lincoln was more divisionist. His actions led to the War among the States known as the Civil War.

I know for me personally, I am better off with Trump being president then I ever was when Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama were president. This is a fact. My life has improved exponentially. I see hope again, where there was little to no hope. And this hope is in my fellow Americans, as well as I am gaining confidence in my government under Trump. However, my confidence in Law Enforcement is not so hopeful. Jeff Sessions can put an end to all of this, and we as Americans, should move on. Will we? No.

Paul Ryan called it "Trump Derangement Syndrome". He describe it as the relentless attacks on Donald Trump as well as the obstruction against him. I do have a warning to those of you who are against Trump. And the warning is quite simple, Jesus Christ preached it, "Do on to others as you would want done on to you" I believe Donald Trump needs to embrace that statement, so should the liberals and conservatives.

I started to become immune to the complaints against Trump. It must be known that if you are in political service and in the public eye, you must protect yourself. Trump feels he doesn't need to, and spouts out on the twitter machine, causing all kinds of h**e and discontent. And no one to date, has posted nor do they know what the rule of law is, nor have they brought sufficient enough evidence to charge Trump with treason, let alone other felonies, or even misdemeanors. As the Constitution requires. Remember the Mueller investigation has a purpose which is specific, yet holds some latitude. The premise is Russian Collusion and Russian interference. It is true in my facts, that Russia attempted to sway the e******n, however, they were ineffective but their goal may not have been helping one candidate or another to win the e******n, but rather disrupt the presidency.

The latter part of my statement may well be true. I also believe that Donald Trump should fire Jeff Sessions.

Now I stated my peace and open the floor to all of you. But first answer a simple question: Can you be fair with the evidence at hand? Say you were part of a Jury with the president on trial or even as a witness. How will you view Trump? How do you view Trump? Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you believe the law applies to each of us equally, or should the law only apply to Donald Trump? These and many more questions I will ask you as you post. Please do not use feelings, because I'm on a fact finding mission. What crime did Donald Trump commit that there is this much hatred against him? Is it a broad interpretation or rather a strict interpretation of the Law?

Game on!

Reply
Aug 25, 2018 07:16:29   #
PeterS
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. Here are the candidates:

1. Donald Trump 11. Carly Fiorina 21. Jim Webb
2. Hillary Clinton 12. Rick Santorum 22. Scott Walker
3. Bernie Sanders 13. Rand Paul 23. Rick Perry
4. John Kasich 14. Martin O’Malley
5. Ted Cruz 15. Mike Huckabee
6. Marco Rubio 16. George Pataki
7. Ben Carson 17. Lindsey Graham
8. Jeb Bush 18. Bobby Jindal
9. Jim Gilmore 19. Lawrence Lessig
10. Chris Christie 20. Lincoln Chafee

By Nov. 1, the candidates that were on the General E******n B****t were:

1. Donald Trump (Republican), 2. Hillary Clinton(Democrat), 3. Jill Stein(Green Party),
4. Gary Johnson (Libertarian), 5. Darrell Lane Castle(Constitutional Party), 6. Rocky De La Fuente (Reform Party)
7. Evan McMullin (Independent), 8. Gloria Estela La Riva (Party for Socialism and Liberation)

On Nov 8th, America v**ed and Donald Trump was named as the winner. Two months later, the NY Times wrote an article that started the "witch hunt" or Russian Collusion accusation. The NY Times, and the Washington Post accused Trump of Colluding with the Russians. In December, the Obama Justice department started an investigation into Russian Meddling in an American e******n. I have sufficient evidence to believe that the investigation was not only illegal but also violated President Trump's rights as a United States Citizen, as well as the Office of the President of the United States. In that same month, President Obama's White House certified the e******n results making Trump our president. Trump then fires the attorney general of the United States as one of his first actions as president, and appoints Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Meanwhile Robert Mueller begins an independent council investigation on Collusion.

As an American Citizen, and as a taxpayer, veteran of two wars, and as a concerned citizen, who is following the entire Mueller investigation, I believe that the investigation is one sided. That is the Mueller investigation or probe, chose only one candidate, from about 30 candidates who had interest in the office of President. And Trump with his tweets has not helped the situation. Like him or h**e him, I also believe that Trump has a big mouth. I am not stating feelings here, all I am reporting is the facts. But my opinion is that Trump is his own worst enemy due to his mouth.

Anyways, for a proper fair investigation to be performed, all candidates should be looked at. We know from press reports that Trump, Clinton, Jeb Bush and others had business ties towards Russia. We also know from these reports that Michael Flynn made money off of Russia, and was fired by President Trump, only when he lied to the Vice President. We also know that Trump fired Manafort, and his personal lawyer Michael Cohn. We also know that Jeb Bush originally purchased the famous "Trump" dossier. Which according to many reports was proven false. We know that Hillary Clinton purchased it from Bush.

We also know that the DNC was hacked and we know some intelligence evidence was stolen from an FBI car outside Trump tower. What the evidence was we may never know.

We also know, that the FBI under James Comey, was investigating Hillary Clinton for emails and the compromise of classified material. All the actions that were set forth by this particular investigation has led to a relentless attack on Donald Trump. This is fact not opinion.

Today, when we watch the news, especially the anchor men and women on MSNBC, we find constant attacks on Trump. To the point of possible slander.

Flynn, Manafort, Comey, Cohen, and others have proven their true colors and yes they should be punished. However, non of the charges thus far has shown that Trump was responsible for the hacking of the DNC, nor colluding with the Russians. Therefore, I am wondering if the investigative team is barking up the wrong tree.

It is possible that Hillary Clinton, or her husband Bill, were not colluding with the Russians either. But she is still suspect in my opinion. I believe there is questionable evidence against Hillary that could be strong. But there is no press coverage about that.
There is also no press coverage on the other candidates trying to sway the e******n their way, with the help of the Russians. And I believe the press is unwittingly giving the Russians way too much credit. The true charge is Russian collusion or even worse Treason. I don't think Donald Trump committed Treason, nor do I believe that Hillary attempted to commit treason. However, due to the lack of coverage, and the evidence that was uncovered by the press, Hillary Clinton is suspect. Or at the very least her campaign.

Other facts to consider is that Bill Clinton campaigned for Hillary at the v****g booth, which according to Massachusetts state law is a felony. That felony has not nor will it be investigated. Why? The Attorney General of Massachusetts, refused to enforce the law and let the Clintons go during the primary. Bernie Sanders supporters were furious. And Trump sympathize and empathize with them. As a result, Trump took on many Bernie supporters at the time.

This action stole v**es from Hillary Clinton. Loretta Lynch meets with Bill Clinton, after Comey just two weeks before the e******n, tells the press that he is reopening the email scandal case against Hillary.

Not to mention the firing of Comey a year later. More and more facts of the actions of just these three candidates keep coming out and what is the American Public to believe.

On top of that, Donald Trump has made our economy strong again. With the economy growing at a rate faster than what anyone expected or even hoped for, is Donald Trump really doing a bad job?

One thing that is sad, is that one side of the aisle ignores the good that Trump does, while the other side celebrates his successes.

Many times on every side of the story, the comment of "Donald Trump is the most divisionist President of all time." However, he isn't. Jame Buchanan who was president before Lincoln was more divisionist. His actions led to the War among the States known as the Civil War.

I know for me personally, I am better off with Trump being president then I ever was when Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama were president. This is a fact. My life has improved exponentially. I see hope again, where there was little to no hope. And this hope is in my fellow Americans, as well as I am gaining confidence in my government under Trump. However, my confidence in Law Enforcement is not so hopeful. Jeff Sessions can put an end to all of this, and we as Americans, should move on. Will we? No.

Paul Ryan called it "Trump Derangement Syndrome". He describe it as the relentless attacks on Donald Trump as well as the obstruction against him. I do have a warning to those of you who are against Trump. And the warning is quite simple, Jesus Christ preached it, "Do on to others as you would want done on to you" I believe Donald Trump needs to embrace that statement, so should the liberals and conservatives.

I started to become immune to the complaints against Trump. It must be known that if you are in political service and in the public eye, you must protect yourself. Trump feels he doesn't need to, and spouts out on the twitter machine, causing all kinds of h**e and discontent. And no one to date, has posted nor do they know what the rule of law is, nor have they brought sufficient enough evidence to charge Trump with treason, let alone other felonies, or even misdemeanors. As the Constitution requires. Remember the Mueller investigation has a purpose which is specific, yet holds some latitude. The premise is Russian Collusion and Russian interference. It is true in my facts, that Russia attempted to sway the e******n, however, they were ineffective but their goal may not have been helping one candidate or another to win the e******n, but rather disrupt the presidency.

The latter part of my statement may well be true. I also believe that Donald Trump should fire Jeff Sessions.

Now I stated my peace and open the floor to all of you. But first answer a simple question: Can you be fair with the evidence at hand? Say you were part of a Jury with the president on trial or even as a witness. How will you view Trump? How do you view Trump? Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you believe the law applies to each of us equally, or should the law only apply to Donald Trump? These and many more questions I will ask you as you post. Please do not use feelings, because I'm on a fact finding mission. What crime did Donald Trump commit that there is this much hatred against him? Is it a broad interpretation or rather a strict interpretation of the Law?

Game on!
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. He... (show quote)

Ranger we don't know what Mueller has and without his hand everything else is just speculation. I'll wait until Mueller gives his rendering and then I will be as objective as the evidence bares. As for firing Sessions you ask that we obey the rule of law and be objective so what has Sessions done that would merit being fired?

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Aug 25, 2018 08:13:32   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. Here are the candidates:

1. Donald Trump 11. Carly Fiorina 21. Jim Webb
2. Hillary Clinton 12. Rick Santorum 22. Scott Walker
3. Bernie Sanders 13. Rand Paul 23. Rick Perry
4. John Kasich 14. Martin O’Malley
5. Ted Cruz 15. Mike Huckabee
6. Marco Rubio 16. George Pataki
7. Ben Carson 17. Lindsey Graham
8. Jeb Bush 18. Bobby Jindal
9. Jim Gilmore 19. Lawrence Lessig
10. Chris Christie 20. Lincoln Chafee

By Nov. 1, the candidates that were on the General E******n B****t were:

1. Donald Trump (Republican), 2. Hillary Clinton(Democrat), 3. Jill Stein(Green Party),
4. Gary Johnson (Libertarian), 5. Darrell Lane Castle(Constitutional Party), 6. Rocky De La Fuente (Reform Party)
7. Evan McMullin (Independent), 8. Gloria Estela La Riva (Party for Socialism and Liberation)

On Nov 8th, America v**ed and Donald Trump was named as the winner. Two months later, the NY Times wrote an article that started the "witch hunt" or Russian Collusion accusation. The NY Times, and the Washington Post accused Trump of Colluding with the Russians. In December, the Obama Justice department started an investigation into Russian Meddling in an American e******n. I have sufficient evidence to believe that the investigation was not only illegal but also violated President Trump's rights as a United States Citizen, as well as the Office of the President of the United States. In that same month, President Obama's White House certified the e******n results making Trump our president. Trump then fires the attorney general of the United States as one of his first actions as president, and appoints Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Meanwhile Robert Mueller begins an independent council investigation on Collusion.

As an American Citizen, and as a taxpayer, veteran of two wars, and as a concerned citizen, who is following the entire Mueller investigation, I believe that the investigation is one sided. That is the Mueller investigation or probe, chose only one candidate, from about 30 candidates who had interest in the office of President. And Trump with his tweets has not helped the situation. Like him or h**e him, I also believe that Trump has a big mouth. I am not stating feelings here, all I am reporting is the facts. But my opinion is that Trump is his own worst enemy due to his mouth.

Anyways, for a proper fair investigation to be performed, all candidates should be looked at. We know from press reports that Trump, Clinton, Jeb Bush and others had business ties towards Russia. We also know from these reports that Michael Flynn made money off of Russia, and was fired by President Trump, only when he lied to the Vice President. We also know that Trump fired Manafort, and his personal lawyer Michael Cohn. We also know that Jeb Bush originally purchased the famous "Trump" dossier. Which according to many reports was proven false. We know that Hillary Clinton purchased it from Bush.

We also know that the DNC was hacked and we know some intelligence evidence was stolen from an FBI car outside Trump tower. What the evidence was we may never know.

We also know, that the FBI under James Comey, was investigating Hillary Clinton for emails and the compromise of classified material. All the actions that were set forth by this particular investigation has led to a relentless attack on Donald Trump. This is fact not opinion.

Today, when we watch the news, especially the anchor men and women on MSNBC, we find constant attacks on Trump. To the point of possible slander.

Flynn, Manafort, Comey, Cohen, and others have proven their true colors and yes they should be punished. However, non of the charges thus far has shown that Trump was responsible for the hacking of the DNC, nor colluding with the Russians. Therefore, I am wondering if the investigative team is barking up the wrong tree.

It is possible that Hillary Clinton, or her husband Bill, were not colluding with the Russians either. But she is still suspect in my opinion. I believe there is questionable evidence against Hillary that could be strong. But there is no press coverage about that.
There is also no press coverage on the other candidates trying to sway the e******n their way, with the help of the Russians. And I believe the press is unwittingly giving the Russians way too much credit. The true charge is Russian collusion or even worse Treason. I don't think Donald Trump committed Treason, nor do I believe that Hillary attempted to commit treason. However, due to the lack of coverage, and the evidence that was uncovered by the press, Hillary Clinton is suspect. Or at the very least her campaign.

Other facts to consider is that Bill Clinton campaigned for Hillary at the v****g booth, which according to Massachusetts state law is a felony. That felony has not nor will it be investigated. Why? The Attorney General of Massachusetts, refused to enforce the law and let the Clintons go during the primary. Bernie Sanders supporters were furious. And Trump sympathize and empathize with them. As a result, Trump took on many Bernie supporters at the time.

This action stole v**es from Hillary Clinton. Loretta Lynch meets with Bill Clinton, after Comey just two weeks before the e******n, tells the press that he is reopening the email scandal case against Hillary.

Not to mention the firing of Comey a year later. More and more facts of the actions of just these three candidates keep coming out and what is the American Public to believe.

On top of that, Donald Trump has made our economy strong again. With the economy growing at a rate faster than what anyone expected or even hoped for, is Donald Trump really doing a bad job?

One thing that is sad, is that one side of the aisle ignores the good that Trump does, while the other side celebrates his successes.

Many times on every side of the story, the comment of "Donald Trump is the most divisionist President of all time." However, he isn't. Jame Buchanan who was president before Lincoln was more divisionist. His actions led to the War among the States known as the Civil War.

I know for me personally, I am better off with Trump being president then I ever was when Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama were president. This is a fact. My life has improved exponentially. I see hope again, where there was little to no hope. And this hope is in my fellow Americans, as well as I am gaining confidence in my government under Trump. However, my confidence in Law Enforcement is not so hopeful. Jeff Sessions can put an end to all of this, and we as Americans, should move on. Will we? No.

Paul Ryan called it "Trump Derangement Syndrome". He describe it as the relentless attacks on Donald Trump as well as the obstruction against him. I do have a warning to those of you who are against Trump. And the warning is quite simple, Jesus Christ preached it, "Do on to others as you would want done on to you" I believe Donald Trump needs to embrace that statement, so should the liberals and conservatives.

I started to become immune to the complaints against Trump. It must be known that if you are in political service and in the public eye, you must protect yourself. Trump feels he doesn't need to, and spouts out on the twitter machine, causing all kinds of h**e and discontent. And no one to date, has posted nor do they know what the rule of law is, nor have they brought sufficient enough evidence to charge Trump with treason, let alone other felonies, or even misdemeanors. As the Constitution requires. Remember the Mueller investigation has a purpose which is specific, yet holds some latitude. The premise is Russian Collusion and Russian interference. It is true in my facts, that Russia attempted to sway the e******n, however, they were ineffective but their goal may not have been helping one candidate or another to win the e******n, but rather disrupt the presidency.

The latter part of my statement may well be true. I also believe that Donald Trump should fire Jeff Sessions.

Now I stated my peace and open the floor to all of you. But first answer a simple question: Can you be fair with the evidence at hand? Say you were part of a Jury with the president on trial or even as a witness. How will you view Trump? How do you view Trump? Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you believe the law applies to each of us equally, or should the law only apply to Donald Trump? These and many more questions I will ask you as you post. Please do not use feelings, because I'm on a fact finding mission. What crime did Donald Trump commit that there is this much hatred against him? Is it a broad interpretation or rather a strict interpretation of the Law?

Game on!
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. He... (show quote)
Excellent article! In my opinion, Clinton’s will never go on trial for anything, period. There is too much corruption on both sides in govt. Trump, however, is another story. The left, media, most politicians, Hollywood etc will continue to go after him & impeach him. If he’s done something impeachable, I say go for it. Of course, next POTUS will be Pence &, naturally, they h**e him too. Then they can go after him ad nauseum too. Dems lost the e******n to a businessman who is not one of them. I compare Dems to ISIS: their agenda is too destroy, one way or another. America had better wake up, get out & v**e in Nov. if you want this country to remain capitalististic.

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Aug 25, 2018 08:17:25   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. Here are the candidates:

1. Donald Trump 11. Carly Fiorina 21. Jim Webb
2. Hillary Clinton 12. Rick Santorum 22. Scott Walker
3. Bernie Sanders 13. Rand Paul 23. Rick Perry
4. John Kasich 14. Martin O’Malley
5. Ted Cruz 15. Mike Huckabee
6. Marco Rubio 16. George Pataki
7. Ben Carson 17. Lindsey Graham
8. Jeb Bush 18. Bobby Jindal
9. Jim Gilmore 19. Lawrence Lessig
10. Chris Christie 20. Lincoln Chafee

By Nov. 1, the candidates that were on the General E******n B****t were:

1. Donald Trump (Republican), 2. Hillary Clinton(Democrat), 3. Jill Stein(Green Party),
4. Gary Johnson (Libertarian), 5. Darrell Lane Castle(Constitutional Party), 6. Rocky De La Fuente (Reform Party)
7. Evan McMullin (Independent), 8. Gloria Estela La Riva (Party for Socialism and Liberation)

On Nov 8th, America v**ed and Donald Trump was named as the winner. Two months later, the NY Times wrote an article that started the "witch hunt" or Russian Collusion accusation. The NY Times, and the Washington Post accused Trump of Colluding with the Russians. In December, the Obama Justice department started an investigation into Russian Meddling in an American e******n. I have sufficient evidence to believe that the investigation was not only illegal but also violated President Trump's rights as a United States Citizen, as well as the Office of the President of the United States. In that same month, President Obama's White House certified the e******n results making Trump our president. Trump then fires the attorney general of the United States as one of his first actions as president, and appoints Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Meanwhile Robert Mueller begins an independent council investigation on Collusion.

As an American Citizen, and as a taxpayer, veteran of two wars, and as a concerned citizen, who is following the entire Mueller investigation, I believe that the investigation is one sided. That is the Mueller investigation or probe, chose only one candidate, from about 30 candidates who had interest in the office of President. And Trump with his tweets has not helped the situation. Like him or h**e him, I also believe that Trump has a big mouth. I am not stating feelings here, all I am reporting is the facts. But my opinion is that Trump is his own worst enemy due to his mouth.

Anyways, for a proper fair investigation to be performed, all candidates should be looked at. We know from press reports that Trump, Clinton, Jeb Bush and others had business ties towards Russia. We also know from these reports that Michael Flynn made money off of Russia, and was fired by President Trump, only when he lied to the Vice President. We also know that Trump fired Manafort, and his personal lawyer Michael Cohn. We also know that Jeb Bush originally purchased the famous "Trump" dossier. Which according to many reports was proven false. We know that Hillary Clinton purchased it from Bush.

We also know that the DNC was hacked and we know some intelligence evidence was stolen from an FBI car outside Trump tower. What the evidence was we may never know.

We also know, that the FBI under James Comey, was investigating Hillary Clinton for emails and the compromise of classified material. All the actions that were set forth by this particular investigation has led to a relentless attack on Donald Trump. This is fact not opinion.

Today, when we watch the news, especially the anchor men and women on MSNBC, we find constant attacks on Trump. To the point of possible slander.

Flynn, Manafort, Comey, Cohen, and others have proven their true colors and yes they should be punished. However, non of the charges thus far has shown that Trump was responsible for the hacking of the DNC, nor colluding with the Russians. Therefore, I am wondering if the investigative team is barking up the wrong tree.

It is possible that Hillary Clinton, or her husband Bill, were not colluding with the Russians either. But she is still suspect in my opinion. I believe there is questionable evidence against Hillary that could be strong. But there is no press coverage about that.
There is also no press coverage on the other candidates trying to sway the e******n their way, with the help of the Russians. And I believe the press is unwittingly giving the Russians way too much credit. The true charge is Russian collusion or even worse Treason. I don't think Donald Trump committed Treason, nor do I believe that Hillary attempted to commit treason. However, due to the lack of coverage, and the evidence that was uncovered by the press, Hillary Clinton is suspect. Or at the very least her campaign.

Other facts to consider is that Bill Clinton campaigned for Hillary at the v****g booth, which according to Massachusetts state law is a felony. That felony has not nor will it be investigated. Why? The Attorney General of Massachusetts, refused to enforce the law and let the Clintons go during the primary. Bernie Sanders supporters were furious. And Trump sympathize and empathize with them. As a result, Trump took on many Bernie supporters at the time.

This action stole v**es from Hillary Clinton. Loretta Lynch meets with Bill Clinton, after Comey just two weeks before the e******n, tells the press that he is reopening the email scandal case against Hillary.

Not to mention the firing of Comey a year later. More and more facts of the actions of just these three candidates keep coming out and what is the American Public to believe.

On top of that, Donald Trump has made our economy strong again. With the economy growing at a rate faster than what anyone expected or even hoped for, is Donald Trump really doing a bad job?

One thing that is sad, is that one side of the aisle ignores the good that Trump does, while the other side celebrates his successes.

Many times on every side of the story, the comment of "Donald Trump is the most divisionist President of all time." However, he isn't. Jame Buchanan who was president before Lincoln was more divisionist. His actions led to the War among the States known as the Civil War.

I know for me personally, I am better off with Trump being president then I ever was when Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama were president. This is a fact. My life has improved exponentially. I see hope again, where there was little to no hope. And this hope is in my fellow Americans, as well as I am gaining confidence in my government under Trump. However, my confidence in Law Enforcement is not so hopeful. Jeff Sessions can put an end to all of this, and we as Americans, should move on. Will we? No.

Paul Ryan called it "Trump Derangement Syndrome". He describe it as the relentless attacks on Donald Trump as well as the obstruction against him. I do have a warning to those of you who are against Trump. And the warning is quite simple, Jesus Christ preached it, "Do on to others as you would want done on to you" I believe Donald Trump needs to embrace that statement, so should the liberals and conservatives.

I started to become immune to the complaints against Trump. It must be known that if you are in political service and in the public eye, you must protect yourself. Trump feels he doesn't need to, and spouts out on the twitter machine, causing all kinds of h**e and discontent. And no one to date, has posted nor do they know what the rule of law is, nor have they brought sufficient enough evidence to charge Trump with treason, let alone other felonies, or even misdemeanors. As the Constitution requires. Remember the Mueller investigation has a purpose which is specific, yet holds some latitude. The premise is Russian Collusion and Russian interference. It is true in my facts, that Russia attempted to sway the e******n, however, they were ineffective but their goal may not have been helping one candidate or another to win the e******n, but rather disrupt the presidency.

The latter part of my statement may well be true. I also believe that Donald Trump should fire Jeff Sessions.

Now I stated my peace and open the floor to all of you. But first answer a simple question: Can you be fair with the evidence at hand? Say you were part of a Jury with the president on trial or even as a witness. How will you view Trump? How do you view Trump? Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you believe the law applies to each of us equally, or should the law only apply to Donald Trump? These and many more questions I will ask you as you post. Please do not use feelings, because I'm on a fact finding mission. What crime did Donald Trump commit that there is this much hatred against him? Is it a broad interpretation or rather a strict interpretation of the Law?

Game on!
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. He... (show quote)

Without hearing any evidence Mueller might present, I think President Trump could present a convincing case for "Not Guilty By Reason Of Insanity". Sad.

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Aug 25, 2018 08:32:15   #
Gatsby
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. Here are the candidates:

1. Donald Trump 11. Carly Fiorina 21. Jim Webb
2. Hillary Clinton 12. Rick Santorum 22. Scott Walker
3. Bernie Sanders 13. Rand Paul 23. Rick Perry
4. John Kasich 14. Martin O’Malley
5. Ted Cruz 15. Mike Huckabee
6. Marco Rubio 16. George Pataki
7. Ben Carson 17. Lindsey Graham
8. Jeb Bush 18. Bobby Jindal
9. Jim Gilmore 19. Lawrence Lessig
10. Chris Christie 20. Lincoln Chafee

By Nov. 1, the candidates that were on the General E******n B****t were:

1. Donald Trump (Republican), 2. Hillary Clinton(Democrat), 3. Jill Stein(Green Party),
4. Gary Johnson (Libertarian), 5. Darrell Lane Castle(Constitutional Party), 6. Rocky De La Fuente (Reform Party)
7. Evan McMullin (Independent), 8. Gloria Estela La Riva (Party for Socialism and Liberation)

On Nov 8th, America v**ed and Donald Trump was named as the winner. Two months later, the NY Times wrote an article that started the "witch hunt" or Russian Collusion accusation. The NY Times, and the Washington Post accused Trump of Colluding with the Russians. In December, the Obama Justice department started an investigation into Russian Meddling in an American e******n. I have sufficient evidence to believe that the investigation was not only illegal but also violated President Trump's rights as a United States Citizen, as well as the Office of the President of the United States. In that same month, President Obama's White House certified the e******n results making Trump our president. Trump then fires the attorney general of the United States as one of his first actions as president, and appoints Jeff Sessions as attorney general. Meanwhile Robert Mueller begins an independent council investigation on Collusion.

As an American Citizen, and as a taxpayer, veteran of two wars, and as a concerned citizen, who is following the entire Mueller investigation, I believe that the investigation is one sided. That is the Mueller investigation or probe, chose only one candidate, from about 30 candidates who had interest in the office of President. And Trump with his tweets has not helped the situation. Like him or h**e him, I also believe that Trump has a big mouth. I am not stating feelings here, all I am reporting is the facts. But my opinion is that Trump is his own worst enemy due to his mouth.

Anyways, for a proper fair investigation to be performed, all candidates should be looked at. We know from press reports that Trump, Clinton, Jeb Bush and others had business ties towards Russia. We also know from these reports that Michael Flynn made money off of Russia, and was fired by President Trump, only when he lied to the Vice President. We also know that Trump fired Manafort, and his personal lawyer Michael Cohn. We also know that Jeb Bush originally purchased the famous "Trump" dossier. Which according to many reports was proven false. We know that Hillary Clinton purchased it from Bush.

We also know that the DNC was hacked and we know some intelligence evidence was stolen from an FBI car outside Trump tower. What the evidence was we may never know.

We also know, that the FBI under James Comey, was investigating Hillary Clinton for emails and the compromise of classified material. All the actions that were set forth by this particular investigation has led to a relentless attack on Donald Trump. This is fact not opinion.

Today, when we watch the news, especially the anchor men and women on MSNBC, we find constant attacks on Trump. To the point of possible slander.

Flynn, Manafort, Comey, Cohen, and others have proven their true colors and yes they should be punished. However, non of the charges thus far has shown that Trump was responsible for the hacking of the DNC, nor colluding with the Russians. Therefore, I am wondering if the investigative team is barking up the wrong tree.

It is possible that Hillary Clinton, or her husband Bill, were not colluding with the Russians either. But she is still suspect in my opinion. I believe there is questionable evidence against Hillary that could be strong. But there is no press coverage about that.
There is also no press coverage on the other candidates trying to sway the e******n their way, with the help of the Russians. And I believe the press is unwittingly giving the Russians way too much credit. The true charge is Russian collusion or even worse Treason. I don't think Donald Trump committed Treason, nor do I believe that Hillary attempted to commit treason. However, due to the lack of coverage, and the evidence that was uncovered by the press, Hillary Clinton is suspect. Or at the very least her campaign.

Other facts to consider is that Bill Clinton campaigned for Hillary at the v****g booth, which according to Massachusetts state law is a felony. That felony has not nor will it be investigated. Why? The Attorney General of Massachusetts, refused to enforce the law and let the Clintons go during the primary. Bernie Sanders supporters were furious. And Trump sympathize and empathize with them. As a result, Trump took on many Bernie supporters at the time.

This action stole v**es from Hillary Clinton. Loretta Lynch meets with Bill Clinton, after Comey just two weeks before the e******n, tells the press that he is reopening the email scandal case against Hillary.

Not to mention the firing of Comey a year later. More and more facts of the actions of just these three candidates keep coming out and what is the American Public to believe.

On top of that, Donald Trump has made our economy strong again. With the economy growing at a rate faster than what anyone expected or even hoped for, is Donald Trump really doing a bad job?

One thing that is sad, is that one side of the aisle ignores the good that Trump does, while the other side celebrates his successes.

Many times on every side of the story, the comment of "Donald Trump is the most divisionist President of all time." However, he isn't. Jame Buchanan who was president before Lincoln was more divisionist. His actions led to the War among the States known as the Civil War.

I know for me personally, I am better off with Trump being president then I ever was when Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr, and Obama were president. This is a fact. My life has improved exponentially. I see hope again, where there was little to no hope. And this hope is in my fellow Americans, as well as I am gaining confidence in my government under Trump. However, my confidence in Law Enforcement is not so hopeful. Jeff Sessions can put an end to all of this, and we as Americans, should move on. Will we? No.

Paul Ryan called it "Trump Derangement Syndrome". He describe it as the relentless attacks on Donald Trump as well as the obstruction against him. I do have a warning to those of you who are against Trump. And the warning is quite simple, Jesus Christ preached it, "Do on to others as you would want done on to you" I believe Donald Trump needs to embrace that statement, so should the liberals and conservatives.

I started to become immune to the complaints against Trump. It must be known that if you are in political service and in the public eye, you must protect yourself. Trump feels he doesn't need to, and spouts out on the twitter machine, causing all kinds of h**e and discontent. And no one to date, has posted nor do they know what the rule of law is, nor have they brought sufficient enough evidence to charge Trump with treason, let alone other felonies, or even misdemeanors. As the Constitution requires. Remember the Mueller investigation has a purpose which is specific, yet holds some latitude. The premise is Russian Collusion and Russian interference. It is true in my facts, that Russia attempted to sway the e******n, however, they were ineffective but their goal may not have been helping one candidate or another to win the e******n, but rather disrupt the presidency.

The latter part of my statement may well be true. I also believe that Donald Trump should fire Jeff Sessions.

Now I stated my peace and open the floor to all of you. But first answer a simple question: Can you be fair with the evidence at hand? Say you were part of a Jury with the president on trial or even as a witness. How will you view Trump? How do you view Trump? Do you believe in the rule of law? Do you believe the law applies to each of us equally, or should the law only apply to Donald Trump? These and many more questions I will ask you as you post. Please do not use feelings, because I'm on a fact finding mission. What crime did Donald Trump commit that there is this much hatred against him? Is it a broad interpretation or rather a strict interpretation of the Law?

Game on!
In 2016, America had an e******n for President. He... (show quote)


Gamesmanship: President berates Sessions, msm backs Sessions for refusal to politicalize the DOJ ,

Sessions announces the indictment of Hillary, for e-mail crimes. Game on!

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Aug 25, 2018 08:48:54   #
PeterS
 
Gatsby wrote:
Gamesmanship: President berates Sessions, msm backs Sessions for refusal to politicalize the DOJ ,

Sessions announces the indictment of Hillary, for e-mail crimes. Game on!


Dream on...

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Aug 25, 2018 09:29:30   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Without hearing any evidence Mueller might present, I think President Trump could present a convincing case for "Not Guilty By Reason Of Insanity". Sad.



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Aug 25, 2018 09:32:15   #
PeterS
 
Bad Bob wrote:

This will give you a smile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfnV4B7Fk7Y

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Aug 25, 2018 10:31:35   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
LOL!! You objective? What a joke. You'll be as objective as your handlers tell you to be troll. No one on this board believes you have any original thoughts . What a lemming.
PeterS wrote:
Ranger we don't know what Mueller has and without his hand everything else is just speculation. I'll wait until Mueller gives his rendering and then I will be as objective as the evidence bares. As for firing Sessions you ask that we obey the rule of law and be objective so what has Sessions done that would merit being fired?

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Aug 25, 2018 11:04:53   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
JFlorio wrote:
LOL!! You objective? What a joke. You'll be as objective as your handlers tell you to be troll. No one on this board believes you have any original thoughts . What a lemming.


Wrong again NNs, I do.

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Aug 25, 2018 11:32:24   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Wrong again NNs, I do.


Yeah, but you're ..........Bob........

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Aug 25, 2018 13:06:23   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
PeterS wrote:
Ranger we don't know what Mueller has and without his hand everything else is just speculation. I'll wait until Mueller gives his rendering and then I will be as objective as the evidence bares...

What a friggin' joke! You're a BIG FAT LIAR Pete. You been one of the biggest, if not THE BIGGEST speculator and purveyor of bulls**t concerning this for quite some time Pete.

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Aug 25, 2018 13:26:47   #
acknowledgeurma
 
PeterS wrote:
This will give you a smile...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfnV4B7Fk7Y

Dr. John Gartner would be the only witness President Trump needs to win a "Not Guilty" verdict for any offence.

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Aug 25, 2018 13:36:17   #
woodguru
 
When or will americans on the right be honest and fair, and support impeachment when it's obvious he actually did anything that evidence proves? When will they stop calling everything that comes out lies?

So Trump looked at the american people on Air Force One and said he knew nothing about a payoff to Stormy daniels. He's run a progressive denial starting with there was no affair, f**e news...then there was an affair but no payoff...then if there was a payoff he knew nothing about it, Cohen must have done it on his own...then there was a payoff but it was paid for by him, no campaign funds were used. The whole time he was denying things, it's f**e news (which it obviously wasn't).

I don't understand how a guy can repeatedly lie to the american people, and have a base that defends his word the whole time like it's gospel, Trump rails at the f**e news which was in fact accurately reporting so his credibility there is in the crapper.

So then on other issues that Trump makes the same claims, that he is innocent, the media is f**e news, at what point does an intelligent person start thinking that perhaps he is lying about other things as well? Quite frankly the person who continues to believe and support someone in the face of lie after lie is a total fool. At some point the t***h coming out on lies probably indicates that the person is lying about other things too, because it's what the person does.

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Aug 25, 2018 14:21:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
When or will americans on the right be honest and fair, and support impeachment when it's obvious he actually did anything that evidence proves? When will they stop calling everything that comes out lies?

So Trump looked at the american people on Air Force One and said he knew nothing about a payoff to Stormy daniels. He's run a progressive denial starting with there was no affair, f**e news...then there was an affair but no payoff...then if there was a payoff he knew nothing about it, Cohen must have done it on his own...then there was a payoff but it was paid for by him, no campaign funds were used. The whole time he was denying things, it's f**e news (which it obviously wasn't).

I don't understand how a guy can repeatedly lie to the american people, and have a base that defends his word the whole time like it's gospel, Trump rails at the f**e news which was in fact accurately reporting so his credibility there is in the crapper.

So then on other issues that Trump makes the same claims, that he is innocent, the media is f**e news, at what point does an intelligent person start thinking that perhaps he is lying about other things as well? Quite frankly the person who continues to believe and support someone in the face of lie after lie is a total fool. At some point the t***h coming out on lies probably indicates that the person is lying about other things too, because it's what the person does.
When or will americans on the right be honest and ... (show quote)


How many Presidents have you supported?
A list would be nice for clarification.

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