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Aug 21, 2018 14:05:31   #
Andy
 
I would like to post in the future, but it's hard for me to know which topic Im referring to .. the one above it or the one below where it says REPLY.... and it would be my luck to post on just the opposite... can someone point me in the right direction... why can't you put two lines of X's when that posting is finished... I never know which is what... thanks. cay

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Aug 21, 2018 14:25:46   #
bahmer
 
Andy wrote:
I would like to post in the future, but it's hard for me to know which topic Im referring to .. the one above it or the one below where it says REPLY.... and it would be my luck to post on just the opposite... can someone point me in the right direction... why can't you put two lines of X's when that posting is finished... I never know which is what... thanks. cay


At the bottom of each post are three boxes and they are as follows "Reply", "Quote Reply", and "Report Issue", the reply allows you to reply only the quote reply brings in the quote and allows you to reply to it and the repost issue allows you to report an issue to Administration. Most all of us on OPP use the Quote Reply tag as that allows all to understand as to who and what you are responding to. I hope this helps in some small way.

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Aug 21, 2018 14:50:58   #
Comment Loc: California
 
Negros flock together in ghettos in large cities. They call other B****s "uncle Toms" if they assimilate. They say to those who assimilate, "why use talk like a white man?" Forced integration was an expensive experiment that did not advance integration one degree. Why is it that expensive modern housing is built for the poor and after 6 months of occupancy most windows are broken , graffiti is all over, new appliances destroyed, gangs and drug dealers are the police. Not long after occupation, these once beautiful buildings are just a pile of bricks and rubble. Think of what Trump Towers would look like if occupied by the Negro poor.

Muslims have not assimilated in Europe what evidence do U have that they will do it here? Rape by Muslims males is rampant in the EU. Cultural Conflict. The progressive liberal are intent on turning America Black and destroying American Christian culture. When a peopl's culture is destroyed their country exists no more. The unteaching of history is a prime example of how to destroy a culture. History is a study of the culture of the past. When mistakes of the past are known then mistakes in the future can be avoided. If one has no knowledge of where they came from, how does one know where they are going?

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Aug 21, 2018 14:54:50   #
bahmer
 
Comment wrote:
Negros flock together in ghettos in large cities. They call other B****s "uncle Toms" if they assimilate. They say to those who assimilate, "why use talk like a white man?" Forced integration was an expensive experiment that did not advance integration one degree. Why is it that expensive modern housing is built for the poor and after 6 months of occupancy most windows are broken , graffiti is all over, new appliances destroyed, gangs and drug dealers are the police. Not long after occupation, these once beautiful buildings are just a pile of bricks and rubble. Think of what Trump Towers would look like if occupied by the Negro poor.

Muslims have not assimilated in Europe what evidence do U have that they will do it here? Rape by Muslims males is rampant in the EU. Cultural Conflict. The progressive liberal are intent on turning America Black and destroying American Christian culture. When a peopl's culture is destroyed their country exists no more. The unteaching of history is a prime example of how to destroy a culture. History is a study of the culture of the past. When mistakes of the past are known then mistakes in the future can be avoided. If one has no knowledge of where they came from, how does one know where they are going?
Negros flock together in ghettos in large cities. ... (show quote)


There you go trying to use logic on the democrats which doesn't work. They don't like logic and they h**e the t***h and they want live in la la land and will get upset if you want to take them out and face the t***h.

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Aug 21, 2018 16:19:56   #
Highlander66 Loc: Illinois
 
JW wrote:
If you don't see the difference, you're not looking. The Hmong were being exterminated in Viet Nam. They fought with us and we owed them. The Somalis fought against us and the core tenet of Islam is to force all others to submit to Islam... submit to the will of Allah or die. Islam is a 7th century warlord propaganda campaign to promote conquest. It hasn't changed and it is still entirely active and dedicated to its original goal.
ers.

Succinctly put! I don’t understand why that isn’t universally understood. When someone repeatedly states that they want to k**l me, I believe that they mean me harm. I am Scottish and we have a long history with people meaning us harm and we will deal with them like we did then.

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Aug 21, 2018 16:58:19   #
moldyoldy
 
People who have not lived in a big city have a different perspective. New York was a great melting pot where immigrants came and they did huddle together for support. There were Irish, Italian, Polish, Puerto Rican, and Jewish ghettos. Like todays immigrants the children became bilingual, while adults were slow to learn but tried. If you go to South Philly today you will here as much Italian as English, Germantown, Philadelphia still has those deli's, the Amish still travel by horse and buggy.

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Aug 21, 2018 17:17:08   #
maryjane
 
JW wrote:
I had most of this written when I hit a wrong key and it all disappeared so I am writing it again but posting it here.
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permafrost wrote:
"...Remember the olden days when the Poles, fins(sic), Italians and others spoke their own language, lived in the same areas, had their own stores, shops and dreamed of the "old country"?

It seems very natural for people who came to this country from anyother country, (even the ME) to stay together, feeling comfortable with fellow immegrants (sic)..

What do you think assimilation is? The Somalia(sic) in Minnesota have community. they join in and participate in the local govt, economy.."

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No, Frosty, I do not remember the 'olden days' the way you seem to remember them. Your memory seems to incorporate a lot of old movies and hackneyed stereotypes rather than actual history when it comes to immigrants. I know because I am an immigrant. I have associated with immigrants all of my life... legal and illegal, I might add.

There are traditionally two kinds of immigrants, financial opportunists and those who want to become Americans. There is a world of difference between the two.

Financial opportunists are to some degree the way you describe them but the others are quite different. I belong to the 'others' group.

Financial opportunists are here for the money, benefits and nothing more. They maintain their language and customs and have no intention to assimilate. They are quite satisfied to be what they are and they teach their children to be the same. A lot of them are very nice people but they are not Americans by any stretch of the imagination, no matter how many generations of them there are here. They have little or nothing to do with Americans outside of the necessary contacts.

The 'others' are here to find a better life than the one they knew in the "old Country". They speak their mother tongue at home but never in public. That is because it is easier and not because of embarrassment or shame. They want to be seen as Americans. They want their children to be Americans so they encourage them to participate in the American way of life and adopt American manners and customs.

Until the lunatic fringe took over the Democrat Party, the only thing impeding assimilation for us 'others' was the acceptance or rejection of our neighbors. Since those Progressives have had power in the culture, they have set numerous other roadblocks in our way. They concocted an insidious form of discrimination called multi-culturism. In the guise of open mindedness and blanket acceptance, they have hyphenated us, deprived many of us of the national language and sought to segregate us in ghettos. Those ghettos arise when we do not fit in with the general population. In short, Progressives have created a situation in which your vision of the immigrant is becoming a reality; separate by custom, isolated by language and dependent for survival on government handouts.

To make the t***sition from the great American melting pot in which everyone could participate, Progressives have sought to destroy all standards of immigration to produce a disintegrated and disjointed society. As a result, we now have a third type of immigrant, those who want nothing to do with Americans or Americanism but want to t***sfer their home conditions to the USA...

All my life I wanted to become an American. In my old age, I have discovered that I have always been an American. I might have known it much sooner had not so many well meaning and not so well meaning people made certain I knew I wasn't one.
I had most of this written when I hit a wrong key ... (show quote)


Absolutely correct, and I really like the "financial opportunists" term, a perfect description of so many of the foreigners, legal and illegal, in our country today. And you are correct about them caring nothing about the USA. Not long ago, I read an article written by a columnist that, based on his name and picture is Mexican, don't know about his citizenship status. Anyway, he quoted his Mexican wife as saying, "I am NOT American. I will NEVER be American. I am, and will always be Mexican." I was astonished that he would print that, but most of his articles are against Trump and always favor the Mexicans, especially the i******s. But, his wife personifies most of the Mexicans already here and the ones coming. They have no stake in America, have no interest in our "intangibles" such as democracy, freedoms, e******y, laws for all, our foundations, etc. They simply want everything we have materially. Eventually, when our nation collapses and fails, as it must on its current path, such foreigners can simply take all they have stolen from America/Americans and return HOME. When we can no longer give to them/take care of them, they will have no use for us and certainly will not feel any need to stay and HELP us recover. They are here, come here, ONLY to help themselves and because their country actively encourages and helps them come here. Mexico is by far the greatest exploiter of the USA, but certainly not the only one. Nevertheless, the blame lies with our congresses for the past 30 years and today. If the USA did not allow this invasion of mostly nonassimulating, poor, uneducated, unsk**led third world citizens, it would not be happening. But it will be the death of OUR America before many more years. We are a land being occupied by many different tribes of different peoples, each with its own language/customs/culture/beliefs competing with, and hating, the other tribes for control. The population experts say that, continuing on this path, in a few more years, Mexicans will be over 100 million here and the majority people in our nation. Is that what corrupt Mexico is aiming for, control of the USA through its citizens here? Seems likely.

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Aug 21, 2018 22:45:24   #
kankune Loc: Iowa
 
JW wrote:
I had most of this written when I hit a wrong key and it all disappeared so I am writing it again but posting it here.
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permafrost wrote:
"...Remember the olden days when the Poles, fins(sic), Italians and others spoke their own language, lived in the same areas, had their own stores, shops and dreamed of the "old country"?

It seems very natural for people who came to this country from anyother country, (even the ME) to stay together, feeling comfortable with fellow immegrants (sic)..

What do you think assimilation is? The Somalia(sic) in Minnesota have community. they join in and participate in the local govt, economy.."

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No, Frosty, I do not remember the 'olden days' the way you seem to remember them. Your memory seems to incorporate a lot of old movies and hackneyed stereotypes rather than actual history when it comes to immigrants. I know because I am an immigrant. I have associated with immigrants all of my life... legal and illegal, I might add.

There are traditionally two kinds of immigrants, financial opportunists and those who want to become Americans. There is a world of difference between the two.

Financial opportunists are to some degree the way you describe them but the others are quite different. I belong to the 'others' group.

Financial opportunists are here for the money, benefits and nothing more. They maintain their language and customs and have no intention to assimilate. They are quite satisfied to be what they are and they teach their children to be the same. A lot of them are very nice people but they are not Americans by any stretch of the imagination, no matter how many generations of them there are here. They have little or nothing to do with Americans outside of the necessary contacts.

The 'others' are here to find a better life than the one they knew in the "old Country". They speak their mother tongue at home but never in public. That is because it is easier and not because of embarrassment or shame. They want to be seen as Americans. They want their children to be Americans so they encourage them to participate in the American way of life and adopt American manners and customs.

Until the lunatic fringe took over the Democrat Party, the only thing impeding assimilation for us 'others' was the acceptance or rejection of our neighbors. Since those Progressives have had power in the culture, they have set numerous other roadblocks in our way. They concocted an insidious form of discrimination called multi-culturism. In the guise of open mindedness and blanket acceptance, they have hyphenated us, deprived many of us of the national language and sought to segregate us in ghettos. Those ghettos arise when we do not fit in with the general population. In short, Progressives have created a situation in which your vision of the immigrant is becoming a reality; separate by custom, isolated by language and dependent for survival on government handouts.

To make the t***sition from the great American melting pot in which everyone could participate, Progressives have sought to destroy all standards of immigration to produce a disintegrated and disjointed society. As a result, we now have a third type of immigrant, those who want nothing to do with Americans or Americanism but want to t***sfer their home conditions to the USA...

All my life I wanted to become an American. In my old age, I have discovered that I have always been an American. I might have known it much sooner had not so many well meaning and not so well meaning people made certain I knew I wasn't one.
I had most of this written when I hit a wrong key ... (show quote)


Amen Brother. Well said!!

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Aug 22, 2018 09:03:30   #
1ProudAmerican
 
permafrost wrote:
You misconstrued what i posted..

when I was young, we lived on a subsistence farm, as did nearly everyone in fare NW Minnesota..

In one direction from town, most of the people were Scandinavian, talked the native language at home.

On the opposite side of town, most of the people were from Poland and spoke that language at home..

when we moved to the cities, in NE Mpls, every 3 or 4 blocks was a different ethnic group.. each spoke the native language, had their own stores, grocery, hardware, bars..

But all of these people, the kids went to school learned the same things that longer residents learned and adapted to the usual American way of life..

Most of today immigrants seem to be no different.. the first generation is more comfortable with people who came from the Old country, for what ever reason.. they speak the old language..

the 2nd generation attends school, speaks English and learns computers.. they become average Americans..

i see little difference in those of today from those of the 50s..

why, if you wish them to show assimilation, does it upset you that a Somalia runs and gains political office?

Nearly all immigrants, from Irish to b****s from asia/Africa have a struggle with the very new to them American society..

After the Vietnam war, Minnesota gained an unusual number of Mong from the highlands who had been allies of ours..

They also took a long time and had problem becoming Americans.. but the did and now fit in just as well as we, the noble Norsk..
You misconstrued what i posted.. br br when I wa... (show quote)


"does it upset you that a Somalia runs and gains political office?"

It depends on their MOTIVE for seeking office...

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Aug 22, 2018 10:04:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
"does it upset you that a Somalia runs and gains political office?"

It depends on their MOTIVE for seeking office...


Not at all.. that shows an acceptance for the American way of life..

also she, in the two times I have heard her on TV seems very much connected to our democracy..

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Aug 22, 2018 10:31:29   #
1ProudAmerican
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
"does it upset you that a Somalia runs and gains political office?"

It depends on their MOTIVE for seeking office...



permafrost wrote:
Not at all.. that shows an acceptance for the American way of life..

also she, in the two times I have heard her on TV seems very much connected to our democracy..




I'm glad you think that....pull your head out of that camel's A$$, take a deep breath and refresh your brain.

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Aug 22, 2018 10:33:49   #
bahmer
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
1ProudAmerican wrote:
"does it upset you that a Somalia runs and gains political office?"

It depends on their MOTIVE for seeking office...







I'm glad you think that....pull your head out of that camel's A$$, take a deep breath and refresh your brain.


I don't think that that is possible for frosty. For some reason he and some others h**e America. I wish I knew why but they refuse to open up and explain why.

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Aug 22, 2018 11:03:15   #
Sicilianthing
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
"does it upset you that a Somalia runs and gains political office?"

It depends on their MOTIVE for seeking office...


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Is this motive good enough ?



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Aug 22, 2018 11:03:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
1ProudAmerican wrote:
"does it upset you that a Somalia runs and gains political office?"

It depends on their MOTIVE for seeking office...







I'm glad you think that....pull your head out of that camel's A$$, take a deep breath and refresh your brain.




do you really fear that little women so much???



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Aug 22, 2018 11:12:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
bahmer wrote:
I don't think that that is possible for frosty. For some reason he and some others h**e America. I wish I knew why but they refuse to open up and explain why.




Bahmer... Honest, you should know by now that I of all people do not h**e my country.. that is why I try to speak out about the orange man and defend equal rights for all..

Up in this neck of the woods, which is in sweat shirt weather this morning, I have only seen one burka clad women in the area. So perhaps more to be feared in the crowed cities..

but I also stand on the point that nearly all of the points that get posted on OPP or originated by right wing media or groups.

That fact dictates that the statement requires investigation before acceptance.. Very nearly everything from the right wing media is false and straight up lie..

It is what the do and why they started business.. many stated so in their introduction to the world..

Look into these, one comment covers all, statements.. most are not true..

As I posted, t***h is hard to find.. buried under a mountain of speech driven by h**e and fear..



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