Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Trumps approach is quite uncommon. Can you disagree with that?

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I’m already half way out Tom... I dont see Trump as the one to turn it around but I do think he’s going to light some backfires...

Guys like me are gonna light the Wild Fires if he fails...

Congress is a Criminal Enterprise flat out and they will never do what is required to reverse course.

It’s up to us.

That’s why I’m pushing full speed ahead with plans B and C after Jan 1 ...

You know what you gotta do by then, just get you and your family as prepared as you can be...
Complete all your stock up for 1 year + supply
Ammo
Have a plan
A bug out plan
Hope for the best that none of us have mobilize but I gotta really bad feeling.

All my guys, almost everyone I know are getting ready.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I am stocked up always keep the vehicles filled , I'll leave the coast

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Noted yep I pray cooler minds prevail man but Idk anymore.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

I actually believe we will survive. I don't think we will have a second term with Trump.I do think who ever becomes president next will preside over a congress in shambles and a huge debt.

buffalo Loc: Texas

Tom, since when has Congress not been in shambles and the debt not been huge and growing with spending out of control?

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

The only out, is firing the FED, and abolishing the "debt". Print and create US notes, without "debt" tied to them.
Not going to happen; so the indentured servants of america will continue to be locked into unpayable perpetual "debt".

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Putting it differently things will be at their worst

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I am sorry but there is no way that is any thing but a perverted way to describe what the tax system is or should be.

Do you honestly believe every one should pay the same amount of money in taxes?

I say if you find things wrong with our system.
If you feel that the solotion lays in sone having unlimited resources.
While others are left with out reasonable opportunities to have access to resources.
Will only end in failure for all.

Some how I can not come to believe that is a true part of who you are.
I say people like you & I have every right to lay out what it is we would like to see or have in the way the world is run.

If we (You & I & others like us) do not find in our self's the means too bring sanity & reason to the situation we find our self in.
It will only mean we are in total agreement with what we see there now.

WE ARE NOT AT THAT LEVEL OF AGREEMENT.

Two many of us wish to play the political game.

Lead by others who chose their own rewards.
Taking the rewards with out meeting the obligations & responsibility's needed.

Why do so many on the right have this fear that they can not play on an even playing field?

I am just arogant enough to feel that I play any game on any field by what ever rules chosen.
At least I feel that is how I should look at it.

But who should deside the rules of the game?
In this case I say we all should have a oersonal input.

buffalo Loc: Texas

The last time anything close to that happening was when JFK was POTUS and we both know what happened to him...

eagleye13 Loc: Fl

Yes we do.
Same thing happened to President Lincoln.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

The use of debt is the big divider we all face.
Those with assets win.
Those with out assets lose.

At it's beat most are lucky to break even.

We are playing on an uneven field.
Getting more uneven every day.

We are on a path where all of the wealth is goin to end up in ever fewer hands.
We need to make some changes that can reverse that path.(Even if in a small way)

We have been on this steady path to the personal down fall of many.
We only need to make a few well thought out moves to alter that path.

An increase in jobs & wages would be the best way.

In the private sector fails in doing it's part.
Raising taxes on higher incomes is the next thing to do.

Not much chance of that happening with Big Money in control.

bylm1-Bernie

Floyd, this may not be an illustration that is comfortable for you to see, but it is, nevertheless, pretty accurate. First, everyone doesn't pay the same amount in income taxes. Half the people pay no income taxes at all. Secondly, If you confiscated the incomes of the top .01 percent of people, you would not be able to get the job done. The middle class pays a big share of the burden. Why? Because that's where the bulk of the money is. In my opinion, the big problem is that big government is too big and spending too much money while producing nothing. The EPA, the DOE, the Dept of Agri., to name only a few of the big bureacracies, is costing way too much money and doing nothing. These sponges should be totally revamped and possibly done away with. It is a fact that in a successful capitalistic economy, there are going to be some who get rich. Instead of being jealous of these folks, you would be better served to accept this and do your best to succeed. The top 1% are not the same people every year. People move in and out of the top for many reasons. Free market capitalism affords the best opportunity for people to become successful than any system ever devised. There may be negatives, but focusing on the positives rather that the negatives will prove to be the best plan. Good luck and God Bless.

Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

It's awfully difficult to convince someone who thinks bigger government is always the answer that spending is the problem. Keep trying though. We're with you.

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I kind of lean that way idk, but I do know the Article V, ConventionOfStates.com COS.com is going to be a wild card that will tip everything over.