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Aug 9, 2018 01:32:51   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
It's recently come to my attention that people on this site are being intentionally misquoted. This happened to me a few times and there is nothing more insidious. In fact it's called libel and it's illegal. To be clear, I am not referring to misunderstandings or interpretations. I am referring to direct quotes, either framed in a quote box or quotation marks.

For example, if ted posts a statement...

I like Mexican food
.............................................................................

flamer can respond with...

"ted" wrote:
I like Mexican food

I can't believe you just said you h**e Mexicans.
.............................................................................

That's not libel. But if flamer does this...

"ted" wrote:
I h**e Mexicans


That IS libel.
.............................................................................

To anyone who does this and thinks they are being clever let me explain why it isn't.

1. The original quote will still be available to verify so malicious intent CAN be proven.
2. Your anonymity does not protect the site owner from legal action resulting from your "clever" stunt. According to this site's policies, all the content on this site is owned by the proprietor of this site, which means the business that operates this site CAN be sued if libel can be proven. So your putting a business at risk.

All this being said, I am hereby creating this topic as an explanation and a fair warning. If anyone is victimized by this kind of BS, I encourage you to post the incident with links to this topic. These events have been reported to the admin but he is unsure how to deal with the issue. There certainly isn't any algorithms or filters to catch it. So it's up to the users to maintain the integrity of our exchanges.

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What to do if you are victimized by intentional misquoting.

1. find your post and right-click on the "#" mark to the right of the date stamp. Then select "copy link address" to your clipboard.

2. Next, open a response to the offending post where you were misquoted. Then add a link using the tag and paste in the address that you copied to your clipboard. This provides a direct link to your original quote.

3. re-quote your original quote so the intentional misquoting is plain to see... The link is your way to proving to them that your version is the original.

4. post that response then right-click on that "#" mark again to copy the link address for your response to the clipboard.

5. post that link to this topic. So we can all see it.

Thank you.
straightUp

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Aug 9, 2018 03:32:21   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
straightUp wrote:
It's recently come to my attention that people on this site are being intentionally misquoted. This happened to me a few times and there is nothing more insidious. In fact it's called libel and it's illegal. To be clear, I am not referring to misunderstandings or interpretations. I am referring to direct quotes, either framed in a quote box or quotation marks.

For example, if ted posts a statement...

I like Mexican food
.............................................................................

flamer can respond with...



That IS libel.
.............................................................................

To anyone who does this and thinks they are being clever let me explain why it isn't.

1. The original quote will still be available to verify so malicious intent CAN be proven.
2. Your anonymity does not protect the site owner from legal action resulting from your "clever" stunt. According to this site's policies, all the content on this site is owned by the proprietor of this site, which means the business that operates this site CAN be sued if libel can be proven. So your putting a business at risk.

All this being said, I am hereby creating this topic as an explanation and a fair warning. If anyone is victimized by this kind of BS, I encourage you to post the incident with links to this topic. These events have been reported to the admin but he is unsure how to deal with the issue. There certainly isn't any algorithms or filters to catch it. So it's up to the users to maintain the integrity of our exchanges.

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What to do if you are victimized by intentional misquoting.

1. find your post and right-click on the "#" mark to the right of the date stamp. Then select "copy link address" to your clipboard.

2. Next, open a response to the offending post where you were misquoted. Then add a link using the tag and paste in the address that you copied to your clipboard. This provides a direct link to your original quote.

3. re-quote your original quote so the intentional misquoting is plain to see... The link is your way to proving to them that your version is the original.

4. post that response then right-click on that "#" mark again to copy the link address for your response to the clipboard.

5. post that link to this topic. So we can all see it.

Thank you.
straightUp
It's recently come to my attention that people on ... (show quote)


If something as insignificant as what you just described, gets under your skin to the point that it causes you such grief, I would suggest you go on a forty day retreat into the wilderness and cleanse the wussification from your soul...................Goober !

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Aug 9, 2018 05:48:40   #
whole2th
 
I'm back from well over 40 days' retreat and remain convinced by Wolf and about 40 others here that OPP is a den of vipers whose behaviors conform to the John 8:44 warnings by Jesus.

Liars (filth) such as Wolf even lie about what constitutes being a wuss.

Speaking of lies, have you read this by Chuck Baldwin and the book Baldwin highly recommends?

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3766/What-If-Everything-Weve-Been-Told-Is-A-Lie.aspx

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Aug 9, 2018 05:53:42   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
straightUp wrote:
It's recently come to my attention that people on this site are being intentionally misquoted. This happened to me a few times and there is nothing more insidious. In fact it's called libel and it's illegal. To be clear, I am not referring to misunderstandings or interpretations. I am referring to direct quotes, either framed in a quote box or quotation marks.

For example, if ted posts a statement...

I like Mexican food
.............................................................................
flamer can respond with...



That IS libel.
.............................................................................

To anyone who does this and thinks they are being clever let me explain why it isn't.

1. The original quote will still be available to verify so malicious intent CAN be proven.
2. Your anonymity does not protect the site owner from legal action resulting from your "clever" stunt. According to this site's policies, all the content on this site is owned by the proprietor of this site, which means the business that operates this site CAN be sued if libel can be proven. So your putting a business at risk.

All this being said, I am hereby creating this topic as an explanation and a fair warning. If anyone is victimized by this kind of BS, I encourage you to post the incident with links to this topic. These events have been reported to the admin but he is unsure how to deal with the issue. There certainly isn't any algorithms or filters to catch it. So it's up to the users to maintain the integrity of our exchanges.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What to do if you are victimized by intentional misquoting.

1. find your post and right-click on the "#" mark to the right of the date stamp. Then select "copy link address" to your clipboard.

2. Next, open a response to the offending post where you were misquoted. Then add a link using the tag and paste in the address that you copied to your clipboard. This provides a direct link to your original quote.

3. re-quote your original quote so the intentional misquoting is plain to see... The link is your way to proving to them that your version is the original.

4. post that response then right-click on that "#" mark again to copy the link address for your response to the clipboard.

5. post that link to this topic. So we can all see it.

Thank you.
straightUp
It's recently come to my attention that people on ... (show quote)
How about you post a link to what you are talking about, since you are making the claim?

Is that too much to ask?

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Aug 9, 2018 05:55:56   #
whole2th
 
Super Dave wrote:
How about you post a link to what you are talking about, since you are making the claim?

Is that too much to ask?


Super Dave--another of the den of vipers--weighs in to invite a mud wrestling match. Liars (filth) don't play fair, so this invitation should just be ignored.

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Aug 9, 2018 06:36:52   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
whole2th wrote:
Super Dave--another of the den of vipers--weighs in to invite a mud wrestling match. Liars (filth) don't play fair, so this invitation should just be ignored.


Are you serious? Do I understand you?

A poster initiates a thread with a claim that he was slandered and asks others that have been slandered to send a link. I asked the author of the thread to go first.

Am I correct that my request is what triggered you?

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Aug 9, 2018 08:04:07   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Super Dave wrote:
Are you serious? Do I understand you?

A poster initiates a thread with a claim that he was slandered and asks others that have been slandered to send a link. I asked the author of the thread to go first.

Am I correct that my request is what triggered you?


Yep! You vipers, liars and filth, mud wrestlers, don't play fair so he ain't gonna come to your party. How dare you ask for specifics?

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Aug 9, 2018 08:38:44   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
pafret wrote:
Yep! You vipers, liars and filth, mud wrestlers, don't play fair so he ain't gonna come to your party. How dare you ask for specifics?
I don't think he was talking about me.

I'm a Jello Wrestling fan. Especially Lime Jello.

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Aug 9, 2018 09:13:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
whole2th wrote:
Super Dave--another of the den of vipers--weighs in to invite a mud wrestling match. Liars (filth) don't play fair, so this invitation should just be ignored.


So, asking a simple question invites your insults??

You should be ignored!!!

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Aug 9, 2018 09:14:24   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
lindajoy wrote:
So, asking a simple question invites your insults??

You should be ignored!!!
He apparently triggers easily.

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Aug 9, 2018 09:18:08   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Super Dave wrote:
He apparently triggers easily.


Apparently so!!
He sure doesn’t know you very well..

I think your request was responsible...

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Aug 9, 2018 11:02:56   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
When something that insignificant happens to me, I like to go on a forty day retreat into the wilderness and cleanse the wussification from my soul

Well, I hope it works!

(get it now?)

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Aug 9, 2018 11:14:08   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
Super Dave wrote:
How about you post a link to what you are talking about, since you are making the claim?

Is that too much to ask?


It happened to me a while ago and I have since moved on and forgotten the post. I'm only bringing it up now because I recently received private messages from others that are experiencing this issue. I am not in the habit of posting links to messages that people have sent me privately. I did however, illustrate the issue quite clearly in my original post. There's really no excuse for claiming not to understand.

I also provided an example in my response to Wolf boy where I intentionally misquoted him, since he claimed the issue is so "insignificant". And maybe for the trolls out there it IS insignificant, but some of us are here for more serious discussion and we would prefer not to be intentionally misquoted by cheap trolling.

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Aug 9, 2018 11:15:30   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
whole2th wrote:
Super Dave--another of the den of vipers--weighs in to invite a mud wrestling match. Liars (filth) don't play fair, so this invitation should just be ignored.

agreed.

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Aug 9, 2018 11:22:13   #
straightUp Loc: California
 
lindajoy wrote:
Apparently so!!
He sure doesn’t know you very well..

I think your request was responsible...

I didn't have a problem with the request and I provided an answer. Perhaps whole2th saw the request as being unnecessary given how easy the issue is to understand and therefore a mere opportunity to troll. But not everyone is on the same level, which is why I took the time to explain things further to Super (I don't get it) Dave.

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