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Aug 10, 2018 00:45:50   #
Idaho
 
NASA data cannot be trusted any more. The data has been doctored.

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Aug 10, 2018 00:45:51   #
Idaho
 
NASA data cannot be trusted any more. The data has been doctored.

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Aug 10, 2018 00:45:53   #
Idaho
 
NASA data cannot be trusted any more. The data has been doctored.

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Aug 10, 2018 00:45:56   #
Idaho
 
NASA data cannot be trusted any more. The data has been doctored.

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Aug 10, 2018 00:45:57   #
Idaho
 
NASA data cannot be trusted any more. The data has been doctored.

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Aug 10, 2018 23:22:03   #
rumitoid
 
Trooper745 wrote:
I have to agree with most of what you say, but I see most of the left acting like assholes, ... as proved by Kevyn's comments. There may be something to "man made c*****e c****e", but I want more HONEST scientific study, instead of the blind, "let's do something, even if it's wrong" crap the left is spouting now.


I agree--from both sides!

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Aug 10, 2018 23:23:23   #
rumitoid
 
Chocura750 wrote:
I've thought that Republicans claimed the science of g****l w*****g was a h**x because once you decide its true, you become a g*******t of sorts for any solution will require global actions and cooperation. Better say it's a h**x they conclude, since who wants to be accused of considering the welfare of people from s**thole countries and the like.


Nice insight. Like it.

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Aug 10, 2018 23:27:17   #
rumitoid
 
Geo wrote:
My opinion: It's not cheap for businesses to reduce putting pollution in the air. It's cheaper to just deny it and fight any regulations that will force you to do the right thing. Buy the politicians (Rightwing) that will help you fight those regulations.
Dump money into their campaigns. Get as many Republicans in office as possible. Today's dollar is more important that tomorrows destruction to these people.
For years you've heard, "We need a businessman in the White House". Now you see what a folly that is. The quest for every dollar that can be gathered is going to be at the expense of human life. We had someone with compassion for people. Now the businessman is reversing everything he did for the people, in favor of his owners so they can increase their profits.
Republicans are the largest organized group in the "World" that denies G****l W*****g. Not because of science, because of greed.

If you're looking for someone to trust, look for g****l w*****g proof on NASA's website.
My opinion: It's not cheap for businesses to reduc... (show quote)


There seems to be some substance to that, but on both sides.

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Aug 10, 2018 23:28:37   #
rumitoid
 
Idaho wrote:
NASA data cannot be trusted any more. The data has been doctored.


Show and prove how that data has been doctored.

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Aug 10, 2018 23:59:21   #
Idaho
 
rumitoid wrote:
Show and prove how that data has been doctored.


I’ve done that on this site once already. Look it up or do your own research.

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Aug 14, 2018 21:55:48   #
rumitoid
 
Trooper745 wrote:
First, "I've thought", probably doesn't accurately describe what you do, since your assumptions about conservatives are as far from t***h as possible. Until recently, I wondered if there was a real diagnosis for your mental problems, and then I read up on Schizotypal Disorder. With that disorder, you may have strange beliefs -- that you can read people’s minds, for example -- which seems to describe you and other liberals in this forum.

As far as man made c*****e c****e goes, as I said earlier, it should be studied, but not by l*****t assholes, like Al Gore, making unreasonable and unfounded predictions of summertime blizzards or total melting of the polar ice caps, and then coming up with silly crap like "buying and selling carbon credits, for profit." Conservatives are okay with real science, but they don't buy the crap the l*****t whackos have been selling.
First, "I've thought", probably doesn't ... (show quote)


Chocura750 made an extremely apt and very telling insight: if c*****e c****e is real, it needs a g*******t solution--which directly conflicts with Trump's and other nations' nationalistic movement. 750 seemed to have nailed the basis of conflict

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Aug 14, 2018 21:58:30   #
rumitoid
 
Trooper745 wrote:
It is only hard to grasp if you're a l*****t wanting to use the lie that man made g****l w*****g is an unquestionable fact that must be corrected by mass t***sit, no personal vehicles, housing all people in large buildings, eating only plants and not meat, and a heavy carbon tax on all energy. Its all about people control. Only two classes, the herds of serfs and the few rich elites.


Where on earth did you read that as a solution? Some far right conspiracy blog? No wonder you deny c*****e c****e, I would too.

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Aug 14, 2018 22:00:14   #
rumitoid
 
JRuss wrote:
For more real information about climate with real numbers go here:
http://www.drroyspencer.com/2018/ Graph shows we are in a period of G****l C*****g. The underwater volcanoes that were warming the Arctic Ocean are now less active. [Yes the Arctic ice was melting from the bottom up!] There is a lot more ice around the North Pole. It is also getting cold South of the Equator.


Poppycock. That guy has been pulling crap out of his butt as science for years.

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Aug 14, 2018 22:02:23   #
rumitoid
 
Geo wrote:
My opinion: It's not cheap for businesses to reduce putting pollution in the air. It's cheaper to just deny it and fight any regulations that will force you to do the right thing. Buy the politicians (Rightwing) that will help you fight those regulations.
Dump money into their campaigns. Get as many Republicans in office as possible. Today's dollar is more important that tomorrows destruction to these people.
For years you've heard, "We need a businessman in the White House". Now you see what a folly that is. The quest for every dollar that can be gathered is going to be at the expense of human life. We had someone with compassion for people. Now the businessman is reversing everything he did for the people, in favor of his owners so they can increase their profits.
Republicans are the largest organized group in the "World" that denies G****l W*****g. Not because of science, because of greed.

If you're looking for someone to trust, look for g****l w*****g proof on NASA's website.
My opinion: It's not cheap for businesses to reduc... (show quote)


You nailed it!

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Aug 14, 2018 23:39:40   #
Idaho
 
rumitoid wrote:
Chocura750 made an extremely apt and very telling insight: if c*****e c****e is real, it needs a g*******t solution--which directly conflicts with Trump's and other nations' nationalistic movement. 750 seemed to have nailed the basis of conflict


You are using “c*****e c****e” as shorthand for f****l f**l caused CO2 g****l w*****g. It is rubbish to say that needs a g*******t solution even if it is true. Currently the expectation is for the US to beggar itself in ‘paying’ for all sorts of really stupid ideas that t***sfer US Wealth to other countries and turn the US into a banana republic. IF you believe in CO2 caused c*****e c****e, and I do not, every nation can independently make its contribution toward reduction and the U.N. and Agenda21 can go screw themselves.

Before anyone labels me a CC Denier - I absolutely believe in c*****e c****e, it changes all the time naturally and it has changed negatively in discrete areas wherever there has been settlement that practiced cultivation of annual crops and cut down forests.

But again, there are solutions in permaculture and restoration agriculture that are making great strides in restoring ecosystems. There is also some amazing work being done in restoring hydrologic cycles. These efforts are mainly being undertaken at a local and regional level by the inhabitants in those areas.

ALL the g*******t “solutions” are s**ms to set up bureaucracies that can be skimmed by corrupt politicians and officials.

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