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Jul 31, 2018 12:47:32   #
acknowledgeurma
 
no propaganda please wrote:
More inclusive? As long as you are not Christian or Jewish, as long as you to not believe that a family made up of one man and one woman and their children is the best way to support a stable and good society. As long as you do not believe that people have the right to keep the things that they worked for, that the fruits of my labor belong to me, NOT THE STATE. If we are not included in the groups just mentioned then the "progressive" socialist Democrats welcome you with open arms.

Well, I think if you asked most Democrats, they would confess to being Christians (though maybe not your brand).

68% of Jews v**ed for Clinton in 2016.

I dare say there are some Democrats who believe "famil[ies] made up of one man and one woman and their children [are] best", they just don't think some other family types should be outlawed.

And I imagine most Democrats think one should reap rewards from one's labor.

I think most Democrats understand that some services are best provided by non-profit entities that are controlled by democratically elected representatives (i.e. government) and that those served should pay for these services based on some combination of services received and ability to pay.

As to "socialist Democrats", I assume you are equating Democrats to the brand of socialism commonly referred to as c*******m, that was Marx's dream.

The following is based on my limited understanding of Marx's thinking.
All value is derived from labor. The owner of capital (capitalist) invests their capital in schemes to get workers to create value by their labor. The capitalist rewards the workers with some of the value they created and appropriates some of this value (the capitalist's return on investment, ROI). The capitalists and the workers are in conflict over the amount of the capitalists' appropriations. The result of this conflict should and will eventually lead to the end of capital ownership and it's appropriation of value.

I think even for Democrats who accept the Labor Theory of Value, I daresay, most do not think the ROI should be zero. As someone whose entire income derives from ROI, I hope Marx's analysis is not correct, nor do I think it is correct (but then, I don't believe in the Labor Theory of Value).

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Jul 31, 2018 13:11:19   #
woodguru
 
EL wrote:
it will be "trauma" when Trump leaves us at the end of his eight years as President of the then made great United States. I really can't imagine another president who will be able to live up to him.


You have that correct, we will never have as ignorant a president who refuses to take advice from people who know more than he does. He is doing so many i***tic and ill conceived things that anyone who has ever been eligible to be a president just knows better than.

He is doing things on multiple fronts that destabilize the economy, the outcome is inevitable.

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Jul 31, 2018 13:13:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Historically, the Democratic Party (as I see it) has been more representative of the diversity of the US population than other US parties. This may be because Democrats have been more inclusive and open to the changes in US culture. Where Democrats weren't open to these changes, they joined other parties. For example, in the South where some Democrats (resistant to Civil Rights Laws) joined first the American Independent Party and then the Republican Party. If it is valid to say that the Democratic Party is more representative of the US population, then it only stands to reason, since it styles itself a democratic party.
Historically, the Democratic Party (as I see it) h... (show quote)


Whitewashing the Democratic Party’s History

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Jul 31, 2018 13:15:14   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
woodguru wrote:
You have that correct, we will never have as ignorant a president who refuses to take advice from people who know more than he does. He is doing so many i***tic and ill conceived things that anyone who has ever been eligible to be a president just knows better than.

He is doing things on multiple fronts that destabilize the economy, the outcome is inevitable.


Well ya gotta give trump credit for making W Bush look better.

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Jul 31, 2018 13:29:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
You have that correct, we will never have as ignorant a president who refuses to take advice from people who know more than he does. He is doing so many i***tic and ill conceived things that anyone who has ever been eligible to be a president just knows better than.

He is doing things on multiple fronts that destabilize the economy, the outcome is inevitable.
Atta boy, get it out of your system. Psychiatrists say that when you have a serious emotional disturbance it helps to talk about it.

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Jul 31, 2018 14:56:56   #
acknowledgeurma
 

It's convenient to their argument that they left out the fact that Gore Sr., after v****g against the 1964 Civil Rights Act, he v**ed for a subsequent one. And though they did mention that the former segregationist Democrats renounced their r****t pasts, they failed to note that the new Southern Republicans failed to renounce theirs. Who then is "whitewashing" their pasts or just ignoring them hoping they won't be remembered?

However, I think this article pretty much supports my contention that the Democratic Party has been more representative of the diversity of the US population and open to the changes in US culture, than other US parties.

I think there is little doubt that for most of it's history America has been overtly r****t. And only after WWII has American culture come to view overt r****m as questionable (or one might say, socially incorrect). Only in the last twenty years or so has covert r****m (hidden behind "colorblindness") come into wider social consciousness.

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Jul 31, 2018 15:54:31   #
TrueAmerican
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/76231943-bacd-3176-b62e-06a1535b25c0/ss_it%E2%80%99s-time-we-start-thinking.html

Regardless of one’s political party, it is hard to imagine that the Trump administration will survive its self-inflicted crush of lies, ethical lapses and incompetence much longer. Chaos is no way to run a popsicle stand, let alone the United States government. Because this presidency may well implode, we need to start thinking about how to minimize the inevitable trauma on Trump supporters and America as a whole. The reality is that, as a legal matter, both indictment and impeachment are fully on the table. No law precludes indictment of a president, and the Constitution does not address whether it’s permissible. DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel — which advises the White House on constitutional ...
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/76231943-bacd-3176-b6... (show quote)


Well we've got another 6 yrs and 4 months, but OK that's easy Pence/Hailey in 2024 & 2028 !!!!!!

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Jul 31, 2018 21:41:07   #
Mikeyavelli
 
There will be no post Trump America. It will be America as founded. More like pre-Obama America. Trump will leave the presidency as a hero, like Lincoln or Washington.
Obama put America in jeopardy, hilliar would have k**led her.
Trump goes directly to the problems, he's blunt, decisive, and effective.
America is Great Again.

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Aug 1, 2018 01:39:32   #
debeda
 
EL wrote:
it will be "trauma" when Trump leaves us at the end of his eight years as President of the then made great United States. I really can't imagine another president who will be able to live up to him.


AGREE!! Just imagine all the TDS victims having to deal with "Trump ave" and "Trump expressway" lolololololololhahahahahaha

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Aug 1, 2018 01:41:34   #
debeda
 
no propaganda please wrote:
More inclusive? As long as you are not Christian or Jewish, as long as you to not believe that a family made up of one man and one woman and their children is the best way to support a stable and good society. As long as you do not believe that people have the right to keep the things that they worked for, that the fruits of my labor belong to me, NOT THE STATE. If we are not included in the groups just mentioned then the "progressive" socialist Democrats welcome you with open arms.


And as long as you don't DARE think for yourself.

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Aug 1, 2018 01:43:44   #
debeda
 
Bad Bob wrote:
Well ya gotta give trump credit for making W Bush look better.


I give him credit for making Obama look like the s******nist t*****r he is.

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Aug 1, 2018 01:44:55   #
debeda
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
Well we've got another 6 yrs and 4 months, but OK that's easy Pence/Hailey in 2024 & 2028 !!!!!!
Well we've got another 6 yrs and 4 months, but OK ... (show quote)


Yep! I like haley!! She stands.

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Aug 1, 2018 01:45:36   #
debeda
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
There will be no post Trump America. It will be America as founded. More like pre-Obama America. Trump will leave the presidency as a hero, like Lincoln or Washington.
Obama put America in jeopardy, hilliar would have k**led her.
Trump goes directly to the problems, he's blunt, decisive, and effective.
America is Great Again.



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Aug 1, 2018 03:56:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Bad Bob wrote:
It's time we start thinking about post-Trump America


Naw, let's thank God and the tooth fairy that we don't have to think about America if the wicked witch of left had gotten hold of it.













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Aug 1, 2018 08:18:05   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Naw, let's thank God and the tooth fairy that we don't have to think about America if the wicked witch of left had gotten hold of it.


Look at whom the lefties attack, Russia and America. Those are the two Sovereign nations standing in the way of their borderless one government world with Islam as the preferred religion. Hilliar would have put America away from inside, and softened Russia by war.

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