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Jul 22, 2018 04:54:12   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Actually I think he was elected by Americans who were influence by an ex KGB agent doing all he can to destroy the worlds greatest democracy. And the thing is Blade: you lead a life you've constructed totally around logical fallacies so I don't have to be a political scientist, a philosopher, a master logician, an historian, a literary critic (where did you get that one from), or anything else on your list to be more than you are--because the world I live in is real whereas the one you live in you created knowing what you wanted to find and then structured your argument in order to find it. That's the danger of a logical fallacy Blade because they allow you to construct any argument and make it true. You've heard of F**e News? Well it was created by your brothers and sisters who live in a f**e world just like you...

So you can call me anything you like Blade, so long as I choose reason over irrationalism I will always be one up on you. Oh, given you are without question the most h**eful CC on this board I really wouldn't go around pointing your crooked finger at others because it only makes you look more full of h**e. If you think god is real then you better believe he is up there taking notes and I would h**e it if what made my hell a hell is because I had to spend eternity with someone as h**eful as you.

You said you no longer watch TV. Well maybe you should give up on the computer too and that way you wouldn't have anyone feeding you h**e from either side and you might then have a chance at heaven, otherwise good buddy you might just be spending eternity with the likes of me...
Actually I think he was elected by Americans who w... (show quote)
You've worn out your logical fallacy meme, alfie, and your h**e projection is pathological.

And, don't get your panties in a twist about my personal relationship with God, that's none of your business.

I would never, as you have done several times, suggest a member of OPP, or anyone else for that matter, poison his grandchildren. So, you shove your immoral and wicked attitudes and opinions where the sun don't shine.

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Jul 22, 2018 06:20:34   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You've worn out your logical fallacy meme, alfie, and your h**e projection is pathological.

And, don't get your panties in a twist about my personal relationship with God, that's none of your business.

I would never, as you have done several times, suggest a member of OPP, or anyone else for that matter, poison his grandchildren. So, you shove your immoral and wicked attitudes and opinions where the sun don't shine.

I'm no more pathological than you are buddy and I crossed the line with Archie and I hope he accepted my apology. As for what I can shove Blade--there isn't an ounce of wickedness in me that isn't in you ten fold. It doesn't matter if the h**e is in you personally you've chosen to surround yourself with it and make it part of your life. You willingly support one of the most h**e filled presidents ever elected and here's the kicker--you v**ed for him because of the hatred you had for Hillary Clinton. The party you belong to Blade is the party of fear and you've been fed so many fallacies that if Trump had horns and a tail you still would have been so terrified of Hillary you couldn't v**e for her. You have no objectivity left in you Blade. Someone says Booo and you yank that lever for wh**ever candidate they want you to v**e for.

That's you my friend--you can't even let morality stand in the way and you v**ed for a man who gloated on radio about how many times he c***ted on his wives. And if that not bad enough he ogled Ivanka and said if she wasn't his daughter he would be screwing her too. Lucky she was his daughter I guess but you v**ed for a man without any moral boundaries and you are an Evangelical Christian who isn't suppose believe in moral relativity yet when it comes to politics moral relativity is the name of the game. You're right, I shouldn't worry about your Christianity because me, in all my wickedness, I have a better chance of being called a Christian than you do.

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Jul 22, 2018 14:13:15   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yep, you did. Pretty obvious that president Trump is not in Putin's pocket. Seems Trump convinced Putin of some things that our two countries need to deal with. America and Russia don't have to be bear hugging buddies, but, since the two nations hold 90% of the world's nukes, a little cooperation couldn't hurt.


Consider this: Putin of all people was the first world leader I'm aware of to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. That's all he did. His attitude was sort of a shrug like, "Jerusalem has always been the capital of Israel...everyone knows that".

Trump one-upped him when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem...something I tipped the OPP off to in 2015 because one of my sources said the building they would move to was ready and set up to be the embassy...subterranean floors and the whole bit. Sure enough, that's where they are now. This particular source is supernaturally accurate.

Trump has something Putin wants...prestige. Putin wants it bad enough to push Trump's plan, Abbas will listen to him, Netanyahu has already agreed to it and Putin can twist Iran's arm. Trump hasn't revealed it yet but I know it's been ready for quite some time and he's about to. I can't help but think that's one of the reasons Putin gave him that soccer ball...it's up to Trump to make the next step public. There's one thing I know will be in it and several I suspect will be in it.

Iran will withdraw all personnel 60 miles from the Israeli border. That's it so far for sure...only because I have not had time to research further than what Trump just announced concerning Putin's upcoming WH visit.

I suspect the plan will contain 4 key elements and who knows how many lesser elements:

Israel's right to exist will be agreed to.

The Palestinians will get their homeland on the West Bank. (It's probable they'll retain Gaza and possible they'll get part of northern Sinai...the Egyptians and Saudis have offered the moon, but that's another thread)

The Temple Mount will come under some kind of sharing arrangement...probably under UNESCO. (There's an amazing backstory to the UNESCO/Temple Mount controversy)

The issue of the division of Jerusalem will be put off for a specified period of time.

Jerusalem is the one thing neither party will budge on. Kushner and Greenblatt spent more than 6 months listening to all parties and reported this to Trump...so he moved the embassy.

Because neither side will budge, at the end of the specified period of time, the "world community" (watch Macron's "coalition of the willing") will seek to enforce UN Resolution 2334...which Obama conveniently abstained from.

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Jul 22, 2018 15:17:22   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
BigMike wrote:
Consider this: Putin of all people was the first world leader I'm aware of to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. That's all he did. His attitude was sort of a shrug like, "Jerusalem has always been the capital of Israel...everyone knows that".

Trump one-upped him when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem...something I tipped the OPP off to in 2015 because one of my sources said the building they would move to was ready and set up to be the embassy...subterranean floors and the whole bit. Sure enough, that's where they are now. This particular source is supernaturally accurate.

Trump has something Putin wants...prestige. Putin wants it bad enough to push Trump's plan, Abbas will listen to him, Netanyahu has already agreed to it and Putin can twist Iran's arm. Trump hasn't revealed it yet but I know it's been ready for quite some time and he's about to. I can't help but think that's one of the reasons Putin gave him that soccer ball...it's up to Trump to make the next step public. There's one thing I know will be in it and several I suspect will be in it.

Iran will withdraw all personnel 60 miles from the Israeli border. That's it so far for sure...only because I have not had time to research further than what Trump just announced concerning Putin's upcoming WH visit.

I suspect the plan will contain 4 key elements and who knows how many lesser elements:

Israel's right to exist will be agreed to.

The Palestinians will get their homeland on the West Bank. (It's probable they'll retain Gaza and possible they'll get part of northern Sinai...the Egyptians and Saudis have offered the moon, but that's another thread)

The Temple Mount will come under some kind of sharing arrangement...probably under UNESCO. (There's an amazing backstory to the UNESCO/Temple Mount controversy)

The issue of the division of Jerusalem will be put off for a specified period of time.

Jerusalem is the one thing neither party will budge on. Kushner and Greenblatt spent more than 6 months listening to all parties and reported this to Trump...so he moved the embassy.

Because neither side will budge, at the end of the specified period of time, the "world community" (watch Macron's "coalition of the willing") will seek to enforce UN Resolution 2334...which Obama conveniently abstained from.
Consider this: I Putin /I of all people was the ... (show quote)
No doubt that the Israeli/Arab conflict is on the agenda, but it is only one of the issues Trump and Putin are dealing with. When you consider that the Russian economy is on par with that of Italy, it would be in Putin's best interest to establish good relations with the world's economic powerhouse. And, there is North Korea and China. As things now stand, China is the greatest threat to the entire world, even more so than Iran.

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Jul 22, 2018 15:18:44   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
I'm no more pathological than you are buddy and I crossed the line with Archie and I hope he accepted my apology. As for what I can shove Blade--there isn't an ounce of wickedness in me that isn't in you ten fold. It doesn't matter if the h**e is in you personally you've chosen to surround yourself with it and make it part of your life. You willingly support one of the most h**e filled presidents ever elected and here's the kicker--you v**ed for him because of the hatred you had for Hillary Clinton. The party you belong to Blade is the party of fear and you've been fed so many fallacies that if Trump had horns and a tail you still would have been so terrified of Hillary you couldn't v**e for her. You have no objectivity left in you Blade. Someone says Booo and you yank that lever for wh**ever candidate they want you to v**e for.

That's you my friend--you can't even let morality stand in the way and you v**ed for a man who gloated on radio about how many times he c***ted on his wives. And if that not bad enough he ogled Ivanka and said if she wasn't his daughter he would be screwing her too. Lucky she was his daughter I guess but you v**ed for a man without any moral boundaries and you are an Evangelical Christian who isn't suppose believe in moral relativity yet when it comes to politics moral relativity is the name of the game. You're right, I shouldn't worry about your Christianity because me, in all my wickedness, I have a better chance of being called a Christian than you do.
I'm no more pathological than you are buddy and I ... (show quote)


Meh!

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Jul 22, 2018 16:42:41   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
No doubt that the Israeli/Arab conflict is on the agenda, but it is only one of the issues Trump and Putin are dealing with. When you consider that the Russian economy is on par with that of Italy, it would be in Putin's best interest to establish good relations with the world's economic powerhouse. And, there is North Korea and China. As things now stand, China is the greatest threat to the entire world, even more so than Iran.


Yeah...like who paid what to the Klintons and all their money laundering organizations for what quid pro quos we don't already know about! You can trust and believe Klinton did NOT want Trump and Putin meeting privately. Both have reason to be pissed at Klinton and both know where the bodies are buried.

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Jul 23, 2018 15:11:11   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
BigMike wrote:
Consider this: Putin of all people was the first world leader I'm aware of to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. That's all he did. His attitude was sort of a shrug like, "Jerusalem has always been the capital of Israel...everyone knows that".

Trump one-upped him when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem...something I tipped the OPP off to in 2015 because one of my sources said the building they would move to was ready and set up to be the embassy...subterranean floors and the whole bit. Sure enough, that's where they are now. This particular source is supernaturally accurate.

Trump has something Putin wants...prestige. Putin wants it bad enough to push Trump's plan, Abbas will listen to him, Netanyahu has already agreed to it and Putin can twist Iran's arm. Trump hasn't revealed it yet but I know it's been ready for quite some time and he's about to. I can't help but think that's one of the reasons Putin gave him that soccer ball...it's up to Trump to make the next step public. There's one thing I know will be in it and several I suspect will be in it.

Iran will withdraw all personnel 60 miles from the Israeli border. That's it so far for sure...only because I have not had time to research further than what Trump just announced concerning Putin's upcoming WH visit.

I suspect the plan will contain 4 key elements and who knows how many lesser elements:

Israel's right to exist will be agreed to.

The Palestinians will get their homeland on the West Bank. (It's probable they'll retain Gaza and possible they'll get part of northern Sinai...the Egyptians and Saudis have offered the moon, but that's another thread)

The Temple Mount will come under some kind of sharing arrangement...probably under UNESCO. (There's an amazing backstory to the UNESCO/Temple Mount controversy)

The issue of the division of Jerusalem will be put off for a specified period of time.

Jerusalem is the one thing neither party will budge on. Kushner and Greenblatt spent more than 6 months listening to all parties and reported this to Trump...so he moved the embassy.

Because neither side will budge, at the end of the specified period of time, the "world community" (watch Macron's "coalition of the willing") will seek to enforce UN Resolution 2334...which Obama conveniently abstained from.
Consider this: I Putin /I of all people was the ... (show quote)


This from Dick Morris today. I was right on my first point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGP1sppuUy0

We may not find out why Abbas visited Putin until the WH meeting in the fall. My source usually knows something beforehand.

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Jul 23, 2018 16:45:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
BigMike wrote:
This from Dick Morris today. I was right on my first point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGP1sppuUy0

We may not find out why Abbas visited Putin until the WH meeting in the fall. My source usually knows something beforehand.
Always liked Dick Morris, his analyses are spot on. And, what can you say about Caroline Glick? Her resume is truly impressive. Degree in PoliSci from Columbia University, followed by five years in the IDF, two years as an IDF captain serving as coordinator of negotiations with the PLO in the office of the Coordinator of Government Activities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. Then she was assistant to the director general of the Israel Antiquities Authority. Then she served as assistant foreign policy advisor to Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu. Then earned a Master's in in Public Policy from Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government, then back to Israel. During Operation Iraqi Freedom, she was an embedded journalist with the US 3rd Infantry Div. That woman's been around the ME block a few times. I reckon she knows what she's talking about.

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