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Trump Was Fully Briefed By Intelligence Before Inauguration And Shown Emails By Russian Operatives Ordering E******n I**********e
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Jul 19, 2018 14:59:17   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
A newly elected president who has been fully briefed on a threat to national security, with a thoroughness that included showing him emails and documents obtained from a highly placed Kremlin spy leaking high level documents to our intelligence services, has a 100% obligation to accept and act upon that knowledge, not to mention pursuing it with every intelligence resource at our country's disposal.

It has been spoken by those involved in the briefing that Trump grudgingly admitted that it looked like there was Russian e******n i**********e...

So for Trump during those days when he should have been operating on established facts and US and other nation's intelligence, at least until he had a chance to see other facts that could indicate that this was false information, was directly and blatantly lying to the public every time he said there was no Russian interference.

This is what Nixon was going to get impeached for, the exact thing. Lying to the public and saying that something he was fully aware of was not the case.

This lie has serious consequences, as a result...
*Meaningful investigations have been blocked, why waste time on f**e news and witch hunts, when they weren't it's obstruction
*With real intelligence that shows otherwise it paints a different picture of GOP members who have obviously obstructed investigations
*Now that sensitive facts are starting to come out it becomes way more obvious that there were republicans who were knowingly dealing with Russians and stolen information that was hacked
*Trump talking about what a good thing Wikileaks was looks a lot different, he predicted "leaks"
*It changes his defense of Flynn, Manafort, and others

There is a criminal statute about lying to the public, and I don't think the defense that Trump is a liar, everyone knows it is going to work when it's of this nature from the time he took office. In the Watergate case it had been determined at that time that Nixon could be indicted, he resigned first. It's untested law and may be seen before the Supreme Court, which is why a justice who has already expressed that he feels a president can't be charged or held accountable for anything is not acceptable.

I'm waiting to see how many republicans decide it's time to impeach, and the ones that have something to worry about as far as collusion won't. I'm wondering about the ones that have announced resignations.
A newly elected president who has been fully brief... (show quote)

If the situation had been reversed and Trump was the outgoing president, he wouldn't have shown the incoming president "emails and documents obtained from a highly placed Kremlin spy leaking high level documents to our intelligence services", he would have "fully briefed" the incoming president "on a threat to national security, with a thoroughness that included how his cybersecurity team and intelligence agencies had SHUT THEM ALL DOWN.

In the actual event, the US cybersecurity team was working to block any attempts by foreign actors, specifically Russians, and Obama's National Security Adviser, Susan Rice, ordered them to "STAND DOWN."

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Jul 19, 2018 15:06:46   #
emarine
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Do you have a source for this?





James R. Clapper
Former Director of National Intelligence
James Robert Clapper Jr. is a retired lieutenant general in the United States Air Force and is the former Director of National Intelligence. Clapper has held several key positions within the United States Intell

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Jul 19, 2018 15:12:56   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
Why would they be dismissed? Unless the judge has a serious bias she is already being held without bond because it was apparent she was getting ready to leave the country. She could go to an embassy and be gone, the embassy could send an official embassy vehicle for her and she would be under diplomatic immunity. If a judge were inclined to dismiss or let this go she simply would have been released on bond and she'd be gone.

Russia protects their spies, meanwhile Trump is entertaining whether Putin can talk to eleven people he'd very much like to get his hands on for information on connections to spies that might be under cover in Russia.
Why would they be dismissed? Unless the judge has ... (show quote)


Found not guilty, found guilty but not sentenced...bait...pardoned...plaintiff in a class action lawsuit...

I've said my peace.

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Jul 19, 2018 17:00:29   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
woodguru wrote:
A newly elected president who has been fully briefed on a threat to national security, with a thoroughness that included showing him emails and documents obtained from a highly placed Kremlin spy leaking high level documents to our intelligence services, has a 100% obligation to accept and act upon that knowledge, not to mention pursuing it with every intelligence resource at our country's disposal.

It has been spoken by those involved in the briefing that Trump grudgingly admitted that it looked like there was Russian e******n i**********e...

So for Trump during those days when he should have been operating on established facts and US and other nation's intelligence, at least until he had a chance to see other facts that could indicate that this was false information, was directly and blatantly lying to the public every time he said there was no Russian interference.

This is what Nixon was going to get impeached for, the exact thing. Lying to the public and saying that something he was fully aware of was not the case.

This lie has serious consequences, as a result...
*Meaningful investigations have been blocked, why waste time on f**e news and witch hunts, when they weren't it's obstruction
*With real intelligence that shows otherwise it paints a different picture of GOP members who have obviously obstructed investigations
*Now that sensitive facts are starting to come out it becomes way more obvious that there were republicans who were knowingly dealing with Russians and stolen information that was hacked
*Trump talking about what a good thing Wikileaks was looks a lot different, he predicted "leaks"
*It changes his defense of Flynn, Manafort, and others

There is a criminal statute about lying to the public, and I don't think the defense that Trump is a liar, everyone knows it is going to work when it's of this nature from the time he took office. In the Watergate case it had been determined at that time that Nixon could be indicted, he resigned first. It's untested law and may be seen before the Supreme Court, which is why a justice who has already expressed that he feels a president can't be charged or held accountable for anything is not acceptable.

I'm waiting to see how many republicans decide it's time to impeach, and the ones that have something to worry about as far as collusion won't. I'm wondering about the ones that have announced resignations.
A newly elected president who has been fully brief... (show quote)


Was he briefed by the same intelligence sources which briefed him about the dossier showing he paid prostitutes to urinate on a bed used by Obama? Was it the same intelligence agencies which couldn't tell him what was discussed at the rumble on the tarmac? How about the ones who said he wasn't being bugged. Was their any significance the the fact that he was a few days before his meeting with Putin? No attempt to coerce behavior there at all, just a coincidence.

It is time to impeach, Sessions, Mueller, Brennan, Clinton, Obama, Comey, Stzrok et al.

There is no criminal statute regarding lying to the public, only lying under oath as Bill Clinton discovered.

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Jul 19, 2018 17:01:21   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
Why would they be dismissed? Unless the judge has a serious bias she is already being held without bond because it was apparent she was getting ready to leave the country. She could go to an embassy and be gone, the embassy could send an official embassy vehicle for her and she would be under diplomatic immunity. If a judge were inclined to dismiss or let this go she simply would have been released on bond and she'd be gone.

Russia protects their spies, meanwhile Trump is entertaining whether Putin can talk to eleven people he'd very much like to get his hands on for information on connections to spies that might be under cover in Russia.
Why would they be dismissed? Unless the judge has ... (show quote)



That last sentence is an absolute lie and so I have to think the rest of your tale is also.

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