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Jul 19, 2018 13:38:52   #
woodguru
 
A newly elected president who has been fully briefed on a threat to national security, with a thoroughness that included showing him emails and documents obtained from a highly placed Kremlin spy leaking high level documents to our intelligence services, has a 100% obligation to accept and act upon that knowledge, not to mention pursuing it with every intelligence resource at our country's disposal.

It has been spoken by those involved in the briefing that Trump grudgingly admitted that it looked like there was Russian e******n i**********e...

So for Trump during those days when he should have been operating on established facts and US and other nation's intelligence, at least until he had a chance to see other facts that could indicate that this was false information, was directly and blatantly lying to the public every time he said there was no Russian interference.

This is what Nixon was going to get impeached for, the exact thing. Lying to the public and saying that something he was fully aware of was not the case.

This lie has serious consequences, as a result...
*Meaningful investigations have been blocked, why waste time on f**e news and witch hunts, when they weren't it's obstruction
*With real intelligence that shows otherwise it paints a different picture of GOP members who have obviously obstructed investigations
*Now that sensitive facts are starting to come out it becomes way more obvious that there were republicans who were knowingly dealing with Russians and stolen information that was hacked
*Trump talking about what a good thing Wikileaks was looks a lot different, he predicted "leaks"
*It changes his defense of Flynn, Manafort, and others

There is a criminal statute about lying to the public, and I don't think the defense that Trump is a liar, everyone knows it is going to work when it's of this nature from the time he took office. In the Watergate case it had been determined at that time that Nixon could be indicted, he resigned first. It's untested law and may be seen before the Supreme Court, which is why a justice who has already expressed that he feels a president can't be charged or held accountable for anything is not acceptable.

I'm waiting to see how many republicans decide it's time to impeach, and the ones that have something to worry about as far as collusion won't. I'm wondering about the ones that have announced resignations.

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Jul 19, 2018 13:48:10   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Do you have a source for this?

woodguru wrote:
A newly elected president who has been fully briefed on a threat to national security, with a thoroughness that included showing him emails and documents obtained from a highly placed Kremlin spy leaking high level documents to our intelligence services, has a 100% obligation to accept and act upon that knowledge, not to mention pursuing it with every intelligence resource at our country's disposal.

It has been spoken by those involved in the briefing that Trump grudgingly admitted that it looked like there was Russian e******n i**********e...

So for Trump during those days when he should have been operating on established facts and US and other nation's intelligence, at least until he had a chance to see other facts that could indicate that this was false information, was directly and blatantly lying to the public every time he said there was no Russian interference.

This is what Nixon was going to get impeached for, the exact thing. Lying to the public and saying that something he was fully aware of was not the case.

This lie has serious consequences, as a result...
*Meaningful investigations have been blocked, why waste time on f**e news and witch hunts, when they weren't it's obstruction
*With real intelligence that shows otherwise it paints a different picture of GOP members who have obviously obstructed investigations
*Now that sensitive facts are starting to come out it becomes way more obvious that there were republicans who were knowingly dealing with Russians and stolen information that was hacked
*Trump talking about what a good thing Wikileaks was looks a lot different, he predicted "leaks"
*It changes his defense of Flynn, Manafort, and others

There is a criminal statute about lying to the public, and I don't think the defense that Trump is a liar, everyone knows it is going to work when it's of this nature from the time he took office. In the Watergate case it had been determined at that time that Nixon could be indicted, he resigned first. It's untested law and may be seen before the Supreme Court, which is why a justice who has already expressed that he feels a president can't be charged or held accountable for anything is not acceptable.

I'm waiting to see how many republicans decide it's time to impeach, and the ones that have something to worry about as far as collusion won't. I'm wondering about the ones that have announced resignations.
A newly elected president who has been fully brief... (show quote)

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Jul 19, 2018 14:02:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
A newly elected president who has been fully briefed on a threat to national security, with a thoroughness that included showing him emails and documents obtained from a highly placed Kremlin spy leaking high level documents to our intelligence services, has a 100% obligation to accept and act upon that knowledge, not to mention pursuing it with every intelligence resource at our country's disposal.

It has been spoken by those involved in the briefing that Trump grudgingly admitted that it looked like there was Russian e******n i**********e...

So for Trump during those days when he should have been operating on established facts and US and other nation's intelligence, at least until he had a chance to see other facts that could indicate that this was false information, was directly and blatantly lying to the public every time he said there was no Russian interference.

This is what Nixon was going to get impeached for, the exact thing. Lying to the public and saying that something he was fully aware of was not the case.

This lie has serious consequences, as a result...
*Meaningful investigations have been blocked, why waste time on f**e news and witch hunts, when they weren't it's obstruction
*With real intelligence that shows otherwise it paints a different picture of GOP members who have obviously obstructed investigations
*Now that sensitive facts are starting to come out it becomes way more obvious that there were republicans who were knowingly dealing with Russians and stolen information that was hacked
*Trump talking about what a good thing Wikileaks was looks a lot different, he predicted "leaks"
*It changes his defense of Flynn, Manafort, and others

There is a criminal statute about lying to the public, and I don't think the defense that Trump is a liar, everyone knows it is going to work when it's of this nature from the time he took office. In the Watergate case it had been determined at that time that Nixon could be indicted, he resigned first. It's untested law and may be seen before the Supreme Court, which is why a justice who has already expressed that he feels a president can't be charged or held accountable for anything is not acceptable.

I'm waiting to see how many republicans decide it's time to impeach, and the ones that have something to worry about as far as collusion won't. I'm wondering about the ones that have announced resignations.
A newly elected president who has been fully brief... (show quote)


I'd like to see your source for this. My question being, when they briefed the president, weere they talking about hacking efforts or the "meme" war over the interwaves via social media??

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Jul 19, 2018 14:11:38   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Do you have a source for this?


I believe it was coming from NYT, which has 0 credibility with me....

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Jul 19, 2018 14:13:53   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
A newly elected president who has been fully briefed on a threat to national security, with a thoroughness that included showing him emails and documents obtained from a highly placed Kremlin spy leaking high level documents to our intelligence services, has a 100% obligation to accept and act upon that knowledge, not to mention pursuing it with every intelligence resource at our country's disposal.

It has been spoken by those involved in the briefing that Trump grudgingly admitted that it looked like there was Russian e******n i**********e...

So for Trump during those days when he should have been operating on established facts and US and other nation's intelligence, at least until he had a chance to see other facts that could indicate that this was false information, was directly and blatantly lying to the public every time he said there was no Russian interference.

This is what Nixon was going to get impeached for, the exact thing. Lying to the public and saying that something he was fully aware of was not the case.

This lie has serious consequences, as a result...
*Meaningful investigations have been blocked, why waste time on f**e news and witch hunts, when they weren't it's obstruction
*With real intelligence that shows otherwise it paints a different picture of GOP members who have obviously obstructed investigations
*Now that sensitive facts are starting to come out it becomes way more obvious that there were republicans who were knowingly dealing with Russians and stolen information that was hacked
*Trump talking about what a good thing Wikileaks was looks a lot different, he predicted "leaks"
*It changes his defense of Flynn, Manafort, and others

There is a criminal statute about lying to the public, and I don't think the defense that Trump is a liar, everyone knows it is going to work when it's of this nature from the time he took office. In the Watergate case it had been determined at that time that Nixon could be indicted, he resigned first. It's untested law and may be seen before the Supreme Court, which is why a justice who has already expressed that he feels a president can't be charged or held accountable for anything is not acceptable.

I'm waiting to see how many republicans decide it's time to impeach, and the ones that have something to worry about as far as collusion won't. I'm wondering about the ones that have announced resignations.
A newly elected president who has been fully brief... (show quote)


Flynn won't get sentenced, Manafort will get pardoned and the Russians who were indicted will never be prosecuted.

You know, don't you, lawyers for the first Russians indicted went to discovery on the 9th and Mewler produced nothing?

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Jul 19, 2018 14:21:40   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
BigMike wrote:
Flynn won't get sentenced, Manafort will get pardoned and the Russians who were indicted will never be prosecuted.

You know, don't you, lawyers for the first Russians indicted went to discovery on the 9th and Mewler produced nothing?


At which point it should have been dismissed.

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Jul 19, 2018 14:30:58   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
I think the President was briefed on security, but I do not think any of that briefing (for obvious reasons) has or will be made public. Having said that, the NYT seems to make up things as they go along. I agree with your assessment, they have less than zero credibility.

proud republican wrote:
I believe it was coming from NYT, which has 0 credibility with me....



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Jul 19, 2018 14:31:44   #
woodguru
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Do you have a source for this?


The recent indictments on the 12 GRU officers detail some contacts, and the Russian woman being held without bond is far more detailed as to her influence operation she was involved in on behalf of Russian intelligence. These are hard evidence cases.

The story just broke last night (Wednesday) that Trump was briefed in depth with evidence provided that the Kremlin was directly involved. Intelligence has not leaked this because they didn't want their Russian assets getting k**led, although some have already disappeared shortly after Trump took office.

FOX isn't covering this, but elements of this have been out for awhile. New indictments are providing corroboration that hasn't been there to date.

Mueller prepared a far more detailed set of indictments without naming the people who Russia was dealing with than is normal so that there is a much higher level of credibility than there would be otherwise. I'm sure he's working on flipping the mentioned but unnamed parties referred to as unnamed American 1 and on.

This case on the Russian woman reads like a spy novel. Her goals were purely establishing Russian influence with political figures and organizations.

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Jul 19, 2018 14:33:21   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
Thank you, but honestly I am just looking for your source.
woodguru wrote:
The recent indictments on the 12 GRU officers detail some contacts, and the Russian woman being held without bond is far more detailed as to her influence operation she was involved in on behalf of Russian intelligence. These are hard evidence cases.

The story just broke last night (Wednesday) that Trump was briefed in depth with evidence provided that the Kremlin was directly involved. Intelligence has not leaked this because they didn't want their Russian assets getting k**led, although some have already disappeared shortly after Trump took office.

FOX isn't covering this, but elements of this have been out for awhile. New indictments are providing corroboration that hasn't been there to date.

Mueller prepared a far more detailed set of indictments without naming the people who Russia was dealing with than is normal so that there is a much higher level of credibility than there would be otherwise. I'm sure he's working on flipping the mentioned but unnamed parties referred to as unnamed American 1 and on.

This case on the Russian woman reads like a spy novel. Her goals were purely establishing Russian influence with political figures and organizations.
The recent indictments on the 12 GRU officers deta... (show quote)

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Jul 19, 2018 14:36:37   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
At which point it should have been dismissed.


It's just making Mewler look weak. Trump and Putin tweaked the Deep State nose. Who wants to blamed for Klinton' cupidity and lust for power? Not to mention, she would have started a war with Russia in Syria.

I'm hearing some chatter about Mewler I find amusing...more later.

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Jul 19, 2018 14:37:31   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
The recent indictments on the 12 GRU officers detail some contacts, and the Russian woman being held without bond is far more detailed as to her influence operation she was involved in on behalf of Russian intelligence. These are hard evidence cases.

The story just broke last night (Wednesday) that Trump was briefed in depth with evidence provided that the Kremlin was directly involved. Intelligence has not leaked this because they didn't want their Russian assets getting k**led, although some have already disappeared shortly after Trump took office.

FOX isn't covering this, but elements of this have been out for awhile. New indictments are providing corroboration that hasn't been there to date.

Mueller prepared a far more detailed set of indictments without naming the people who Russia was dealing with than is normal so that there is a much higher level of credibility than there would be otherwise. I'm sure he's working on flipping the mentioned but unnamed parties referred to as unnamed American 1 and on.

This case on the Russian woman reads like a spy novel. Her goals were purely establishing Russian influence with political figures and organizations.
The recent indictments on the 12 GRU officers deta... (show quote)


We'll see. I bet the charges against her will be dismissed.

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Jul 19, 2018 14:39:04   #
woodguru
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I'd like to see your source for this. My question being, when they briefed the president, weere they talking about hacking efforts or the "meme" war over the interwaves via social media??


They were dealing with emails from high level Russians instructing operations. The reason a lid was kept on this was because Putin was aggressively looking for leaks and spies were disappearing, it was obvious to Putin that he had high level leaks.

I think it was the NY Times that broke this last night, the indictments on the 12 Russians spilled the beans on a lot of what had been kept secret so far.

The most dangerous job in the world has to be spying and leaking information on Kremlin activities. We simply imprison Russian operatives and subject them to a trial, Putin takes a far more extreme approach to people spying on Russian activities.

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Jul 19, 2018 14:41:25   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
They were dealing with emails from high level Russians instructing operations. The reason a lid was kept on this was because Putin was aggressively looking for leaks and spies were disappearing, it was obvious to Putin that he had high level leaks.

I think it was the NY Times that broke this last night, the indictments on the 12 Russians spilled the beans on a lot of what had been kept secret so far.

The most dangerous job in the world has to be spying and leaking information on Kremlin activities. We simply imprison Russian operatives and subject them to a trial, Putin takes a far more extreme approach to people spying on Russian activities.
They were dealing with emails from high level Russ... (show quote)


What does he do??

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Jul 19, 2018 14:45:05   #
woodguru
 
BigMike wrote:
We'll see. I bet the charges against her will be dismissed.


Why would they be dismissed? Unless the judge has a serious bias she is already being held without bond because it was apparent she was getting ready to leave the country. She could go to an embassy and be gone, the embassy could send an official embassy vehicle for her and she would be under diplomatic immunity. If a judge were inclined to dismiss or let this go she simply would have been released on bond and she'd be gone.

Russia protects their spies, meanwhile Trump is entertaining whether Putin can talk to eleven people he'd very much like to get his hands on for information on connections to spies that might be under cover in Russia.

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Jul 19, 2018 14:50:44   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Why would they be dismissed? Unless the judge has a serious bias she is already being held without bond because it was apparent she was getting ready to leave the country. She could go to an embassy and be gone, the embassy could send an official embassy vehicle for her and she would be under diplomatic immunity. If a judge were inclined to dismiss or let this go she simply would have been released on bond and she'd be gone.

Russia protects their spies, meanwhile Trump is entertaining whether Putin can talk to eleven people he'd very much like to get his hands on for information on connections to spies that might be under cover in Russia.
Why would they be dismissed? Unless the judge has ... (show quote)


Boris and Natasha told you this?

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