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Jul 16, 2018 18:27:32   #
Radiance3
 
woodguru wrote:
Under Trump we would have full blown dictatorship if he gets his way, democracy and f**r e******ns gone, 40% of the people electing presidents.

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What dictatorship are you talking about? Do you wish the dictatorship of Obama's political correctness to continue?

I am sure you are either a free loader, or benefitting from the great economic boom of president Trump. Unemployment is 3.8 percent, and there is no reason why you should continue begging. Jobs are right there in the corner. Perhaps you are working now, and that is good.
President Trump keeps us safe from the enemies especially from ISIS who are almost decimated.

He keeps radical Muslims out, and i*****l a***ns criminals processed to be sent home. Unless you are one of them.

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Jul 16, 2018 19:00:56   #
Morgan
 
Manning345 wrote:
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"This does not make democrats socialists, nor does it make us a socialistic government."
You are right there, but when a member or so of the Democratic Party announce themselves as Democratic Socialists, very loud alarm bells should go off! That was close to Hillary's declaration as a Progressive Democrat, Bernie's, and perhaps the new one whose name I forget. They are Socialists in the Democratic Party, and if given the chance would pursue the Socialist dream for the nation. Lots of young idealists follow them too.
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It's refreshing to hear someone actually agree to it not being a socialist. Yes, Bernie did say he was a democratic socialist and that was a campaign mistake, Hillary never said anything of the sort, she knows better. Political terms are constantly being redefined with the changing attitudes, that's not necessarily a bad thing but it leads to a lot of confusion when debating in political issues.

I find part of the problem is people being very entrenched in old history and old conditions, anything can be invented or rewritten. Capitalism promotes an emphasis on individual profit rather than on workers or society as a whole. Both have their perks and downfalls. Like I said, what we have is a unique balance of both worlds. We just have to focus our energies, not in accusing the other of sabotaging our government, but instead, use our efforts to keep it in balance and in check.

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Jul 16, 2018 20:37:29   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
vernon wrote:
And that is why and forever you will remain stupid.


Most-h**ed senator was right
Scholars: Joseph McCarthy's charges 'now accepted as fact'
Published: 02/08/2000 at 1:00 AM
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WASHINGTON — Although Joseph McCarthy was one of the most demonized American politicians of the last century, new information — including half-century-old FBI recordings of Soviet embassy conversations — are showing that McCarthy was right in nearly all his accusations.

“With Joe McCarthy it was the losers who’ve written the history which condemns him,” said Dan Flynn, director of Accuracy in Academia’s recent national conference on McCarthy, broadcast by C-SPAN.

Using new information obtained from studies of old Soviet files in Moscow and now the famous Venona Intercepts — FBI recordings of Soviet embassy communications between 1944-48 — the record is showing that McCarthy was essentially right. He had many weaknesses, but almost every case he charged has now been proven correct. Whether it was stealing atomic secrets or influencing U.S. foreign policy, c*******t victories in the 1940s were fed by an incredibly vast spy and influence network.

The conference, a gathering of old McCarthyites and younger scholars, commemorated the senator’s first speech, in Wheeling, W. Va., 50 years ago, when he first held up a list of names of employees of the State Department whom, he said, were major security risks. McCarthy questioned how, in six short years after America’s winning of World War II, the c*******t world was triumphant and had expanded to include 800 million people.

Of the lists, a key one consisted of 108 names from a House Appropriations Committee report, of persons declared as “security risks” in the State Department — the Lee List. The House committee chairman had complained that State wasn’t bothering to do anything about the suspects. Details of the list and its accusations were presented at the conference.

Speakers detailed many of the cover-ups used to smear McCarthy. Veteran journalist and teacher Stan Evans, director of National Journalism Center, told of the Tydings Committee, which had investigated McCarthy’s charges of c*******ts in government. Its report had exonerated everybody. Among the accused it stated categorically that there was no evidence against Owen Lattimore, a man McCarthy said was a major figure in the c*******t conspiracy. Lattimore had been Roosevelt’s key advisor on China policy. Yet Evans showed evidence from 5,000 pages of FBI files on him — files released only a few years ago to the public, although the White House had access to them.

However, evidence before the committee showed that Lattimore had supported Soviet policy at every turn, even declaring that the Stalin purge trials in Russia, “sound like democracy to me.” With then-Vice President Henry Wallace in Russia, Lattimore compared concentration camps to the Tennessee Valley Authority, and later urged Washington to abandon China to c*******m and to withdraw from Japan and Korea. FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, who had fed information to McCarthy, broke with him afterwards, fearing McCarthy would prejudice FBI sources of information for its criminal prosecutions.

Although most of McCarthy’s cases involved actual spies and “security risks,” the really important issue was that of c*******t influence over American foreign policy, argued Evans. Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt’s closest advisor who lived in the White House, had regular contacts with Soviet intelligence. He helped bring about the disastrous Yalta and Pottsdam agreements. The Morganthau Plan, to prevent German reconstruction and starve the Germans to make them desperate enough to go c*******t, was the product of Laughlin Currie and Harry Dexter White at the Treasury Department. The abandonment of Chiang Kai-shek by denying military support was the product of “China Hands” led by John Stewart Service, John Patton Davies, and Lattimore. Evans described other major spy networks — in England, the Burgess Maclean group which infiltrated Washington as well as London.

Reed Irvine, chairman of Accuracy in Media, told how he himself had been a l*****t in his early career. He had been against McCarthy, but McCarthy’s speeches had made him think and start to read “evidence that I had avoided.” He described how all during his military career as a Marine officer and later in Japan with the U.S. occupation he had never hidden his l*****t views and later had even been offered a job at the CIA. Irvine argued that real c*******ts were only in the hundreds, but that thousands of l*****ts, such as he, all feared McCarthy and had wanted him discredited.

Pulling all the latest evidence together was luncheon speaker Professor Arthur Herman. His new book, “Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America’s Most H**ed Senator,” and featured in the Sunday New York Times Magazine, shows the vindication of most of McCarthy’s charges. Herman, who is also coordinator of the Smithsonian’s Western Heritage Program, said that the accuracy of McCarthy’s charges “was no longer a matter of debate,” that they are “now accepted as fact.” However, the term “McCarthyism” still remains in the language.

Asked whether McCarthy had understood all the forces arrayed against him, Herman said no, that McCarthy hadn’t realized he’d be fighting against much of the Washington establishment. President Truman was fearful that exposures would reflect on key Democrat officials, he said, and big media and the academic world were very l*****t, a heritage of the Depression and World War II. High government officials also feared investigations of their past appointments and associations with people who turned out to be c*******ts or sympathizers.

That was the reason McCarthy was so demonized, he said.

Joe McCarthy had been a Marine air gunner, an amateur boxer, a county judge and towards his end, under constant attack, he began to drink heavily. Herman said he certainly was over his head and his fall came about after sweeping attacks on General Marshall and the Army. Senator Taft and other key supporters began to draw away from him.

If Robert Kennedy, his competent and well-connected co-counsel, had stayed on, McCarthy might have behaved more carefully, said Herman. An argument with other co-counsel Roy Cohn left Cohn in charge, but Cohn and staffer David Schine were disastrous for McCarthy. Still, McCarthy’s original charges helped bring about Eisenhower’s e*******l victory and the defeat of the Democrats and key l*****t Democratic senators such as Tydings of Maryland. Four years after his original charges, Joe McCarthy was censured by the Senate and died shortly thereafter.

There is more evidence to come. Herb Romerstein, another speaker, who started out with the old House Un-American Activities Committee, is writing a book about the Venona FBI intercepts and their links to other evidence from his comprehensive study in Russia of Soviet archives, made available to Westerners since the fall of c*******m. His book, The Venona Secrets, will be released by Regnery Gateway this fall.

Audiotapes of the “Accuracy in Academia” conference are available online.

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Jul 17, 2018 08:56:14   #
bahmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Most-h**ed senator was right
Scholars: Joseph McCarthy's charges 'now accepted as fact'
Published: 02/08/2000 at 1:00 AM
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WASHINGTON — Although Joseph McCarthy was one of the most demonized American politicians of the last century, new information — including half-century-old FBI recordings of Soviet embassy conversations — are showing that McCarthy was right in nearly all his accusations.

“With Joe McCarthy it was the losers who’ve written the history which condemns him,” said Dan Flynn, director of Accuracy in Academia’s recent national conference on McCarthy, broadcast by C-SPAN.

Using new information obtained from studies of old Soviet files in Moscow and now the famous Venona Intercepts — FBI recordings of Soviet embassy communications between 1944-48 — the record is showing that McCarthy was essentially right. He had many weaknesses, but almost every case he charged has now been proven correct. Whether it was stealing atomic secrets or influencing U.S. foreign policy, c*******t victories in the 1940s were fed by an incredibly vast spy and influence network.

The conference, a gathering of old McCarthyites and younger scholars, commemorated the senator’s first speech, in Wheeling, W. Va., 50 years ago, when he first held up a list of names of employees of the State Department whom, he said, were major security risks. McCarthy questioned how, in six short years after America’s winning of World War II, the c*******t world was triumphant and had expanded to include 800 million people.

Of the lists, a key one consisted of 108 names from a House Appropriations Committee report, of persons declared as “security risks” in the State Department — the Lee List. The House committee chairman had complained that State wasn’t bothering to do anything about the suspects. Details of the list and its accusations were presented at the conference.

Speakers detailed many of the cover-ups used to smear McCarthy. Veteran journalist and teacher Stan Evans, director of National Journalism Center, told of the Tydings Committee, which had investigated McCarthy’s charges of c*******ts in government. Its report had exonerated everybody. Among the accused it stated categorically that there was no evidence against Owen Lattimore, a man McCarthy said was a major figure in the c*******t conspiracy. Lattimore had been Roosevelt’s key advisor on China policy. Yet Evans showed evidence from 5,000 pages of FBI files on him — files released only a few years ago to the public, although the White House had access to them.

However, evidence before the committee showed that Lattimore had supported Soviet policy at every turn, even declaring that the Stalin purge trials in Russia, “sound like democracy to me.” With then-Vice President Henry Wallace in Russia, Lattimore compared concentration camps to the Tennessee Valley Authority, and later urged Washington to abandon China to c*******m and to withdraw from Japan and Korea. FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, who had fed information to McCarthy, broke with him afterwards, fearing McCarthy would prejudice FBI sources of information for its criminal prosecutions.

Although most of McCarthy’s cases involved actual spies and “security risks,” the really important issue was that of c*******t influence over American foreign policy, argued Evans. Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt’s closest advisor who lived in the White House, had regular contacts with Soviet intelligence. He helped bring about the disastrous Yalta and Pottsdam agreements. The Morganthau Plan, to prevent German reconstruction and starve the Germans to make them desperate enough to go c*******t, was the product of Laughlin Currie and Harry Dexter White at the Treasury Department. The abandonment of Chiang Kai-shek by denying military support was the product of “China Hands” led by John Stewart Service, John Patton Davies, and Lattimore. Evans described other major spy networks — in England, the Burgess Maclean group which infiltrated Washington as well as London.

Reed Irvine, chairman of Accuracy in Media, told how he himself had been a l*****t in his early career. He had been against McCarthy, but McCarthy’s speeches had made him think and start to read “evidence that I had avoided.” He described how all during his military career as a Marine officer and later in Japan with the U.S. occupation he had never hidden his l*****t views and later had even been offered a job at the CIA. Irvine argued that real c*******ts were only in the hundreds, but that thousands of l*****ts, such as he, all feared McCarthy and had wanted him discredited.

Pulling all the latest evidence together was luncheon speaker Professor Arthur Herman. His new book, “Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America’s Most H**ed Senator,” and featured in the Sunday New York Times Magazine, shows the vindication of most of McCarthy’s charges. Herman, who is also coordinator of the Smithsonian’s Western Heritage Program, said that the accuracy of McCarthy’s charges “was no longer a matter of debate,” that they are “now accepted as fact.” However, the term “McCarthyism” still remains in the language.

Asked whether McCarthy had understood all the forces arrayed against him, Herman said no, that McCarthy hadn’t realized he’d be fighting against much of the Washington establishment. President Truman was fearful that exposures would reflect on key Democrat officials, he said, and big media and the academic world were very l*****t, a heritage of the Depression and World War II. High government officials also feared investigations of their past appointments and associations with people who turned out to be c*******ts or sympathizers.

That was the reason McCarthy was so demonized, he said.

Joe McCarthy had been a Marine air gunner, an amateur boxer, a county judge and towards his end, under constant attack, he began to drink heavily. Herman said he certainly was over his head and his fall came about after sweeping attacks on General Marshall and the Army. Senator Taft and other key supporters began to draw away from him.

If Robert Kennedy, his competent and well-connected co-counsel, had stayed on, McCarthy might have behaved more carefully, said Herman. An argument with other co-counsel Roy Cohn left Cohn in charge, but Cohn and staffer David Schine were disastrous for McCarthy. Still, McCarthy’s original charges helped bring about Eisenhower’s e*******l victory and the defeat of the Democrats and key l*****t Democratic senators such as Tydings of Maryland. Four years after his original charges, Joe McCarthy was censured by the Senate and died shortly thereafter.

There is more evidence to come. Herb Romerstein, another speaker, who started out with the old House Un-American Activities Committee, is writing a book about the Venona FBI intercepts and their links to other evidence from his comprehensive study in Russia of Soviet archives, made available to Westerners since the fall of c*******m. His book, The Venona Secrets, will be released by Regnery Gateway this fall.

Audiotapes of the “Accuracy in Academia” conference are available online.
Most-h**ed senator was right br Scholars: Joseph M... (show quote)


Ao how do we undo this mess that we have allowed to be created by the c*******ts. I.E. the democrat party as well as RINOs in the republican party. Trump is working on it but he does need help from us doesn't he?

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Jul 17, 2018 11:53:19   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
bahmer wrote:
Ao how do we undo this mess that we have allowed to be created by the c*******ts. I.E. the democrat party as well as RINOs in the republican party. Trump is working on it but he does need help from us doesn't he?



We need to educate the young people whose education has been at public schools and universities, run by the educators trained in the Dewey School and others from the Frankfort School. (check out information on these people to learn what we are up against) It also helps to read and learn from the following sources:

Blacklisted by History, about Sen. Joseph McCarthy M. Stanton Evans
Marxism Thomas Sowell
The Black Book of C*******m put out bu the Harvard University Press
The Politically Incorrect Guide to Socialism Kevin D Williamson
Pravda Angus Roxburg
Barack Obama Trevor Loudon
The Politically Incorrect Guide to C*******m Paul Kengor
Red Horizons Ion Pacepa
DISINFORMATION by Ion Pacepa this one is a must and is even available as an audiobook from ABe books for under 10.00
I would start with this one.
I have all of these books and have read most of them. Just got The Black Book of C*******m used is close to $50.00 and the book is over 900 pages so I am using it as a reference book.

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Jul 17, 2018 15:46:09   #
Manning345 Loc: Richmond, Virginia
 
no propaganda please wrote:
We need to educate the young people whose education has been at public schools and universities, run by the educators trained in the Dewey School and others from the Frankfort School. (check out information on these people to learn what we are up against) It also helps to read and learn from the following sources:

Blacklisted by History, about Sen. Joseph McCarthy M. Stanton Evans
Marxism Thomas Sowell
The Black Book of C*******m put out bu the Harvard University Press
The Politically Incorrect Guide to Socialism Kevin D Williamson
Pravda Angus Roxburg
Barack Obama Trevor Loudon
The Politically Incorrect Guide to C*******m Paul Kengor
Red Horizons Ion Pacepa
DISINFORMATION by Ion Pacepa this one is a must and is even available as an audiobook from ABe books for under 10.00
I would start with this one.
I have all of these books and have read most of them. Just got The Black Book of C*******m used is close to $50.00 and the book is over 900 pages so I am using it as a reference book.
We need to educate the young people whose educatio... (show quote)

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I agree that we need to change our education system to teach the t***h, to teach how to think for oneself, what the tradeoffs of life are all about; and the correct history of our nation. But beyond that fearsome task, and it is fearsome because the current way of teaching is failing our kids and it is so embedded in our system, we need to root out those who are poison to our republic, s*******s or even treasonous, give them a court trial, and if convicted, especially those that are in key positions where they can hurt the nation, and see them to places where they can hurt us no more. Guantanamo comes to mind.

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Jul 17, 2018 15:51:03   #
bahmer
 
Manning345 wrote:
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I agree that we need to change our education system to teach the t***h, to teach how to think for oneself, what the tradeoffs of life are all about; and the correct history of our nation. But beyond that fearsome task, and it is fearsome because the current way of teaching is failing our kids and it is so embedded in our system, we need to root out those who are poison to our republic, s*******s or even treasonous, give them a court trial, and if convicted, especially those that are in key positions where they can hurt the nation, and see them to places where they can hurt us no more. Guantanamo comes to mind.
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Amen and Amen or even execution which would put the fear of God into them.

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Jul 19, 2018 00:01:14   #
Nickolai
 
Manning345 wrote:
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"This does not make democrats socialists, nor does it make us a socialistic government."
You are right there, but when a member or so of the Democratic Party announce themselves as Democratic Socialists, very loud alarm bells should go off! That was close to Hillary's declaration as a Progressive Democrat, Bernie's, and perhaps the new one whose name I forget. They are Socialists in the Democratic Party, and if given the chance would pursue the Socialist dream for the nation. Lots of young idealists follow them too.
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Bernie Sanders is not in the Democratic party he is an Independent. And Hillary Clinton is no a Progressive Democrat.. Both she and Bill Clinton are from the moderate arm of that party. The Corporate arm of that party. By the time Bill Clinton became President his party had abandoned its base to become more business friendly. He hired Dick Morris to advise him how to become more business friendly His parties thinking was We don't have to worry about labor ,we have their money and v**es because they have no choice. True Progressives do not think that way

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Jul 19, 2018 00:10:54   #
Nickolai
 
vernon wrote:
You were almost that with obama.The people realized what was happening and v**ed in Trump.Now you mfers need to just tell the t***h and quit all this lying and agitation.





Didn't you hear Trump say he thought the Chinese dictator that has been declared to be dictator for life was a good idea and would like that

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Jul 19, 2018 00:14:31   #
Nickolai
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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What dictatorship are you talking about? Do you wish the dictatorship of Obama's political correctness to continue?

I am sure you are either a free loader, or benefitting from the great economic boom of president Trump. Unemployment is 3.8 percent, and there is no reason why you should continue begging. Jobs are right there in the corner. Perhaps you are working now, and that is good.
President Trump keeps us safe from the enemies especially from ISIS who are almost decimated.

He keeps radical Muslims out, and i*****l a***ns criminals processed to be sent home. Unless you are one of them.
=============== br What dictatorship are you talk... (show quote)




Jobs in 2017 averaged 184,000 per month slightly lower than 187,000 recorded in 2016. Growth was 2.2 % a little better than the 2.1% in 2016 but lower than the 2.5% in 2015

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Jul 19, 2018 00:30:12   #
Nickolai
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Most-h**ed senator was right
Scholars: Joseph McCarthy's charges 'now accepted as fact'
Published: 02/08/2000 at 1:00 AM
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WASHINGTON — Although Joseph McCarthy was one of the most demonized American politicians of the last century, new information — including half-century-old FBI recordings of Soviet embassy conversations — are showing that McCarthy was right in nearly all his accusations.

“With Joe McCarthy it was the losers who’ve written the history which condemns him,” said Dan Flynn, director of Accuracy in Academia’s recent national conference on McCarthy, broadcast by C-SPAN.

Using new information obtained from studies of old Soviet files in Moscow and now the famous Venona Intercepts — FBI recordings of Soviet embassy communications between 1944-48 — the record is showing that McCarthy was essentially right. He had many weaknesses, but almost every case he charged has now been proven correct. Whether it was stealing atomic secrets or influencing U.S. foreign policy, c*******t victories in the 1940s were fed by an incredibly vast spy and influence network.

The conference, a gathering of old McCarthyites and younger scholars, commemorated the senator’s first speech, in Wheeling, W. Va., 50 years ago, when he first held up a list of names of employees of the State Department whom, he said, were major security risks. McCarthy questioned how, in six short years after America’s winning of World War II, the c*******t world was triumphant and had expanded to include 800 million people.

Of the lists, a key one consisted of 108 names from a House Appropriations Committee report, of persons declared as “security risks” in the State Department — the Lee List. The House committee chairman had complained that State wasn’t bothering to do anything about the suspects. Details of the list and its accusations were presented at the conference.

Speakers detailed many of the cover-ups used to smear McCarthy. Veteran journalist and teacher Stan Evans, director of National Journalism Center, told of the Tydings Committee, which had investigated McCarthy’s charges of c*******ts in government. Its report had exonerated everybody. Among the accused it stated categorically that there was no evidence against Owen Lattimore, a man McCarthy said was a major figure in the c*******t conspiracy. Lattimore had been Roosevelt’s key advisor on China policy. Yet Evans showed evidence from 5,000 pages of FBI files on him — files released only a few years ago to the public, although the White House had access to them.

However, evidence before the committee showed that Lattimore had supported Soviet policy at every turn, even declaring that the Stalin purge trials in Russia, “sound like democracy to me.” With then-Vice President Henry Wallace in Russia, Lattimore compared concentration camps to the Tennessee Valley Authority, and later urged Washington to abandon China to c*******m and to withdraw from Japan and Korea. FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover, who had fed information to McCarthy, broke with him afterwards, fearing McCarthy would prejudice FBI sources of information for its criminal prosecutions.

Although most of McCarthy’s cases involved actual spies and “security risks,” the really important issue was that of c*******t influence over American foreign policy, argued Evans. Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt’s closest advisor who lived in the White House, had regular contacts with Soviet intelligence. He helped bring about the disastrous Yalta and Pottsdam agreements. The Morganthau Plan, to prevent German reconstruction and starve the Germans to make them desperate enough to go c*******t, was the product of Laughlin Currie and Harry Dexter White at the Treasury Department. The abandonment of Chiang Kai-shek by denying military support was the product of “China Hands” led by John Stewart Service, John Patton Davies, and Lattimore. Evans described other major spy networks — in England, the Burgess Maclean group which infiltrated Washington as well as London.

Reed Irvine, chairman of Accuracy in Media, told how he himself had been a l*****t in his early career. He had been against McCarthy, but McCarthy’s speeches had made him think and start to read “evidence that I had avoided.” He described how all during his military career as a Marine officer and later in Japan with the U.S. occupation he had never hidden his l*****t views and later had even been offered a job at the CIA. Irvine argued that real c*******ts were only in the hundreds, but that thousands of l*****ts, such as he, all feared McCarthy and had wanted him discredited.

Pulling all the latest evidence together was luncheon speaker Professor Arthur Herman. His new book, “Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America’s Most H**ed Senator,” and featured in the Sunday New York Times Magazine, shows the vindication of most of McCarthy’s charges. Herman, who is also coordinator of the Smithsonian’s Western Heritage Program, said that the accuracy of McCarthy’s charges “was no longer a matter of debate,” that they are “now accepted as fact.” However, the term “McCarthyism” still remains in the language.

Asked whether McCarthy had understood all the forces arrayed against him, Herman said no, that McCarthy hadn’t realized he’d be fighting against much of the Washington establishment. President Truman was fearful that exposures would reflect on key Democrat officials, he said, and big media and the academic world were very l*****t, a heritage of the Depression and World War II. High government officials also feared investigations of their past appointments and associations with people who turned out to be c*******ts or sympathizers.

That was the reason McCarthy was so demonized, he said.

Joe McCarthy had been a Marine air gunner, an amateur boxer, a county judge and towards his end, under constant attack, he began to drink heavily. Herman said he certainly was over his head and his fall came about after sweeping attacks on General Marshall and the Army. Senator Taft and other key supporters began to draw away from him.

If Robert Kennedy, his competent and well-connected co-counsel, had stayed on, McCarthy might have behaved more carefully, said Herman. An argument with other co-counsel Roy Cohn left Cohn in charge, but Cohn and staffer David Schine were disastrous for McCarthy. Still, McCarthy’s original charges helped bring about Eisenhower’s e*******l victory and the defeat of the Democrats and key l*****t Democratic senators such as Tydings of Maryland. Four years after his original charges, Joe McCarthy was censured by the Senate and died shortly thereafter.

There is more evidence to come. Herb Romerstein, another speaker, who started out with the old House Un-American Activities Committee, is writing a book about the Venona FBI intercepts and their links to other evidence from his comprehensive study in Russia of Soviet archives, made available to Westerners since the fall of c*******m. His book, The Venona Secrets, will be released by Regnery Gateway this fall.

Audiotapes of the “Accuracy in Academia” conference are available online.
Most-h**ed senator was right br Scholars: Joseph M... (show quote)






Joe McCarthy claimed there were 100 c*******ts in the State Department and he had all there names but he never named not even one. Joe McCarthy was an alcoholic blow hard and died of alcoholism in 1958 the Year the John Birch Society was founded He put the nation through one of the saddest chapters in its history. He was as dumb as a stump. The House un American activities committee ruined the lives of many actors, directors, screen writers. with there Hollywood blacklist. Jeff and Bo Bridges father lost 8 years out of his career with a wife and Bo and Jeff to feed and it stretched from 1947 to the 1970's until people finally came to their senses and realized it was an un American activity to do what they were doing

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Jul 19, 2018 00:35:11   #
Nickolai
 
bahmer wrote:
Ao how do we undo this mess that we have allowed to be created by the c*******ts. I.E. the democrat party as well as RINOs in the republican party. Trump is working on it but he does need help from us doesn't he?





No better we get rid of the f*****ts on the extreme right these people are dangerous and a threat to the health of some 33,000 people are shot every year and Thousands more k**led on the nations highways. They roar around me blowing their horn giving me a hard look with their middle finger up trying to run me off the road. They're mean SOB's

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Jul 19, 2018 00:37:40   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Yeah Yeah, the Demonrats are the face of the new resurrected c*******t party, only it's
a U.S. home grown version. The USSR does not exist anymore and thats why the l*****ts
h**e todays Russia and it's Christians who live in peace.

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Jul 19, 2018 00:47:18   #
Nickolai
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Democratic Socialism: The Great Fiction
May 19, 2016 Andrew Brady 0 Comment

Democratic socialism is probably the most misunderstood and overrated political philosophy of the last decade… if you want to call it a political philosophy at all. Many cling to the name Democratic Socialism, as if it has any differences from socialism. Individuals make the fallacy that democratic socialism is simply regulated capitalism. As of late, we’ve come to cringe at the word “Capitalism”. There are also many myths and misunderstandings about capitalism flowing around, you can find my article on that topic here. Nonetheless, democratic socialism is incredibly overrated for what it actually entails. Let me explain.

All socialism is inherently democratic.

Socialism in its purest to most flexible forms is completely democratic. Vladimir Lenin’s socialism was democratic. Karl Marx’s socialism is democratic. In fact, Karl Marx called his form of socialism (among other things) “Dictatorship of the Proletarian”. This means rule by the populace- the same thing as democracy. Vladimir Lenin said, “Hence, our task, the task of Social-Democracy, is to combat spontaneity, to divert the working-class movement from this spontaneous, trade-unionist striving to come under the wing of the bourgeoisie, and to bring it under the wing of revolutionary Social Democracy.”(1). Indeed, revolutionary socialists and c*******ts considered themselves whole-hardheadedly democratic socialists.

But this is only one side of the proclamation. Today, many people consider themselves democratic socialists. With democratic p**********l candidate Bernie Sanders proclaiming to be democratic socialist and getting ample support, the t***h about democratic socialism is obvious- there is a large amount of “democratic socialists” in the United States today. But they are socialist-in-name-only.

Most Modern “Democratic Socialists” aren’t really socialists.

Socialism, as discussed in my article on socialism found here, is defined by collective ownership of the means of production. Different socialists go about this in different ways. For example, Vladimir Lenin believed that the only way to achieve socialism was to revolt against the powerful, take over the all powerful monopoly (the state), and use that monopoly to achieve the ends of c*******m. Other socialists are reformists, such as Peter Hain. However, the ends are the same. The end is collective ownership of the means of production.

There is also disagreement among socialist schools of thought about how to achieve collective ownership. Some socialists, anarcho-syndicalists and anarcho-c*******ts, in particular, believe that the government must be immediately abolished and that their utopia would naturally be reached through the destruction of the idea of private property. Others, such as Lenin and Marx believed that the state must garner lots of power and force monopolies over every economic industry before utopia can be achieved.

Note that with these disagreements in socialist schools of thought, none of them incorporate the ideas of modern “democratic socialists”. This is because “democratic socialists” are merely Galbraithian and Keynesian. There is no legitimate democratic socialist economic school of thought. These individuals proclaiming to be democratic socialists are only democrats (in the governmental sense, not modern political) with mixed Keynesian economic ideas. Their economic philosophy is not socialistic.

Why doesn’t democratic socialism ever stay democratic?

F. A Hayek, the Nobel peace prize-winning economist, had an excellent piece on democratic socialism and the rule of law in his book, “The Road to Serfdom”. Broadly, democratic socialism doesn’t stay democratic for several reasons. Nothing gets done in democratic socialism because the government must attempt to incorporate everyone’s means, ends, and goals; and humans inherently have different value scales and desires. In democratic socialism, the government grabs more and more power under the name of “welfare”.

Nothing gets done in democratic socialism. When a government tries to incorporate everybody’s goals and means to reach those goals, it often fails. In large economies, individuals don’t all have the same ends and goals. Thus, when you take their money and property and assume you know how to spend it better than they can, you undermine their goals in favor of the “community”. They ignore that everyone working towards and achieving their own goals would make the “community” favorable. The latter is a bottom-up approach to economics and end utility. The former paints everyone with a broad brush.

This is socialism in general, but when you incorporate democracy into this, you have many different people “v****g” for many different things. When everyone disagrees about everything, the government has two options. The first is to accept the minority-majority, which would make the majority of people upset. The second is to take control of the situation and do what the government sees fit. Remember this is all working on the working people’s labor and money. This doesn’t sound like “dictatorship of the proletarian” to me.

Every time democratic socialism has been tried, the government has grabbed more and more power over monopoly powers over certain industries for “welfare”. The government first grabs education, healthcare, and food- the necessities. Then it maneuvers to less necessary endeavors like entertainment and media. This is when they really get the most power. Sure you can force people to do things through education and food, but when you grab entertainment and media, you can control the minds of the masses very quickly and very discreetly. Propaganda was rampant in every socialist society to date.

Both of these lead to totalitarian states ruled by the government. Karl Marx himself feared this outcome of revolutionary socialism. He said, “The state is based on this contradiction. It is based on the contradiction between public and private life, between universal and particular interests. For this reason, the state must confine itself to formal, negative activities” (2). Totalitarianism in this fashion is, indeed, described as f*****m by many scholars. I do not believe that it is total f*****m, but the economic model certainly closely resembles f*****m.

Finally, what is democratic socialism?

In theory, which democratic socialism is, all socialism is democratic. In fact, all forms of government are democratic in theory- but socialism is particularly democratic. The goal of socialism in its founding age was to eliminate the totalitarianism and conservatism of central Europe in the 19th century and replace it with a democratic model. This is how socialism came about. So I will argue that democratic socialism is the same thing as any other socialism.

Many will argue that democratic socialism is simply regulated capitalism; however this is not so. Regulated capitalism is a mixed economy, but it certainly is not socialism. Regulated capitalism can be described as being Keynesian or statist. However, capitalism seems to regulate itself. All great innovations in capital and safety have come directly from the market. Scientists, or the general individual, finds something that is destructive, which is made common knowledge, and the businesses on the market create something that prevents this destructive force.

Electric cars are becoming more and more common because of the market. Car producers see value in selling electric cars because people are concerned about the environment. It’s not because the government mandates it. In fact, the government has helped slow the progress by giving big oil so much money. Also, in terms of the workers rights and conditions, improvements have come only from advances in capital by less-regulated capitalism. Improved capital (machinery, etc) has made work both easier and more productive, which inherently improves working conditions.

However, I digress. I am arguing that capitalism regulates itself more than any government has. Democratic socialism is not regulated capitalism. Democratic socialism is collective ownership of the means of production, just like classic socialism. The only difference between Lenin and democratic socialists of today is that Lenin was revolutionary. Socialists today are more gradualist.
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F.A.Hayek didn't know much about what he was writing about At the time he wrote Road To Serfdom the only style of socialism around was 19th century style Socialism. In addition his writings were theoretical “The Road To Serfdom” by Fredrick Hayek is a disappointing book. Conservative bloggers often race about it claiming it has great insights into modern politics. While I disagree with the Austrian school of economics I read it to hear the other point of view. I found it a boring, out dated book that didn’t have anything particularly original or insightful to say. It’s mainly concerned with saying a totalitarian state where the government controls everything doesn’t work (you don’t say). The book might have been relevant when it was published, but I am at a loss to see its use today. He does not criticize the welfare state or government regulations. In fact at the start of chapter 9, he says that “There is no doubt that some minimum of food, shelter, and clothing, sufficient to preserve health and capacity to work, can be assured to everyone.” No doubt if Obama said this he would be denounced as filthy socialist.

He also calls for social insurance in case of sickness and accident, as well as government assistance after a natural disaster. “But there is no incompatibility in principle between the state providing greater security in this way and preservation of individual freedom.” I think most advocates of Hayek have not read this passage and don’t realise he is not an extremist arguing against all forms of government. Let me repeat this, Hayek is arguing there is a good case for the government to get involved in healthcare, either in the form of universal healthcare or government insurance. It’s ironic that many people quote Hayek to denounce Obamacare.

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Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Nickolai wrote:
No better we get rid of the f*****ts on the extreme right these people are dangerous and a threat to the health of some 33,000 people are shot every year and Thousands more k**led on the nations highways. They roar around me blowing their horn giving me a hard look with their middle finger up trying to run me off the road. They're mean SOB's

((laughin)) ya have to be drivin over 90MPH on any TX HWY n' many HWY's throughout the
Midwest Playground before Any LEO/HWY patrol will even look at you.
We haul the mail/haul ass around here.

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