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Jul 15, 2018 21:05:04   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
This young lady has the right winger scared skinny.. and she has not been elected yet..

Already the right has started a stratagy of lies and rumors about her..

They were so successful with Lady Hillary that they feel that will be repeated as needed for this little lady..

But they forget that it took them more then 20 years of lies and h**e to keep Lady Hillary on the sidelines..

It is unlikely that they have 20 years to destroy this fine young lady..


I didn't take the article to be about this candidate. I took it to be about the democratic party coming out as the socialist party.

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Jul 15, 2018 21:09:05   #
debeda
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
In the same sense that public education K-12 is not free, "free college" would/should be free. In times past, a 12th grade education could get work to support a family; now (and in the future) more education is (will be) required. It benefits society as a whole to have qualified workers. It seems to make sense that societies would/should want to make it easier to obtain qualified workers. One possible solution would be to make it easier for members of a society to become more qualified. Another solution would be to import qualified workers from other societies. Which of these would you prefer (I'm sure there are other solutions too).
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K-12 Is paid in large part by property taxes. Property taxes are already really high in many/most parts of the country. With the cost of college as it now stands I can't imagine what it would do to property taxes. And really, you couldn't use that to fund free college unless kids were bound to go to the college in their "district".

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Jul 16, 2018 10:47:46   #
Highlander66 Loc: Illinois
 
debeda wrote:
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Decision Time for America: Venezuelan-Style Socialism or Winning

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Chris Matthews of MSNBC has rediscovered that tingle up his leg that he hasn’t experienced since e******n night in 2008. In fact, the entire mainstream media in America has the tingles right now because a bona fide Democratic Socialist candidate won her primary e******n against a 10-term incumbent Democrat.

The left is excited about the e******n of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez because they can finally admit what we’ve known about them all along, which is that the Democrat Party prefers Venezuelan-style socialism over this whole freedom and prosperity experiment known as “America.”

You see, the young, hip and pretty Ocasio-Cortez (President Trump would probably rate her a low 7) is not a phony Democratic Socialist. We’re accustomed to those. Obama was able to sucker stupid people into v****g for him by spouting lines from the C*******t Manifesto and pretending he discovered them in the Bible.

But meanwhile, he was staffing his Cabinet at the White House by draining the boardroom at Goldman Sachs. We’re used to liars and grifters like that who only pretend to be full-blown socialists, but they like Martha’s Vineyard too much to ever really give up that lifestyle.

The head of the Democratic National Committee says that Ocasio-Cortez is the future of the Democratic Party. Regular Americans heard that statement and thought, “Wow, the DNC isn’t usually that open and honest about itself.” Since she is the future of the Democrat Party, then by extension, she is the future of America if we ever allow the Democrats to regain power.

Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is the real deal. Just look at that wild, semi-crazed look in her eyes. She’s a believer. She looks like she’d be the one to pull the trigger at the behest of The Party on any employee who doesn’t show sufficient zeal for Karl Marx at the mandatory weekly office indoctrination meeting at Facebook. She’s even got the hyphenated last name to signal her eternal war against muh Patriarchy!

She’s also super-rich, just like that other socialist Bernie Sanders. Ocasio-Cortez grew up in one of the wealthiest one-percenter enclaves in America. As one astute observer on Twitter remarked, isn’t it interesting that none of these socialist rock stars ever originated in a successful socialist environment?

The problem with the Venezuela-style socialism that Ms. Ocasio-Cortez is peddling is that it always results in Venezuela-style conditions in the end when the l**ting is complete and it all falls apart. Have you seen what’s happening in Venezuela lately, as it reaches the end stages of socialism?

If you haven’t seen it, that’s because the American media is continuing a tradition it has had since at least the 1930s, in which the media covers up the results of its favorite political ideology.

Right now, it costs about 500 gajillion bolívars (Venezuelan dollars) to purchase a teacup of gasoline. At least, that’s what it would cost if there were a teacup of gasoline left in the once oil-rich country. Inflation is running at slightly over 40,000%, so by the time you finish reading this article, the price of a teacup of gasoline will have gone up to about 800 gajillion bolívars.

Gangs that held onto their rifles when the Venezuelan military fell apart are now in control of all water supplies in the country. All the zoos in Venezuela are empty because Walking Dead-style hordes of starving peasants emptied them out after all the grocery stores put up plywood in the windows.

Next up, the great exodus that follows anytime Venezuelan-style socialism runs its course. Masses of starving Venezuelans, who waited too long holding out hope for some sort of salvation, will now have to make a run for the nearest border.

Speaking of the great exodus after a national government collapses, Mexico just elected a full-blown c*******t for its new president. Now that Mexico has fallen into “failed state” status, the Mexican v**ers decided to fail harder by electing the one guy that would hasten their country’s demise.

Once the big collapse takes place, our southern border will be mobbed with 50 million Mexicans fleeing the heavily-armed drug cartels that will take over, making the nation look like Somalia, just without all the Muslims. That wall is sounding pretty attractive right now, isn’t it?

There’s your choice, America. We can stick to the path of freedom and prosperity under the current Official Champion of Awesomeness™ (and Delicious Taco Bowls) in the White House, El Presidente Donald J. Trump. Or, we can go down the path of Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the New York Times in the 2018 midterms.

Job growth for June was estimated to hit 190,000, but we fell short and only reached 177,000. Why? Because so many Americans have jobs thanks to President Trump that companies can’t find enough employees to fill open positions.

This is incredibly refreshing after watching the Obama and Bush administrations gut our economy by shipping jobs overseas while at the same time flooding the country with millions of cheap foreign laborers.

Under President Trump, you can have a JOB! Not only that, but if you just hold on to the job, your wages will rise as the labor market tightens even further, due to President Trump deporting all of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’ relatives.

That’s one option. Under the other option – the Ocasio-Cortez option – you get to break into the zoo late at night and try to take down Dumbo with a sharp stick, so your kids won’t starve to death.

There is some bad news that comes with this option, however. If you want to actually cook your Dumbo steaks, you’ll have to light a fire by rubbing two sticks together because the power will be out, and the local Quik-E-Mart will have long since run out of matches and lighters. You’ll also want to wear kneepads when you want to get a glass of water from the nearest local warlord.

Option A: Freedom and growing prosperity under President Trump, coupled with overwhelming joy because life is so incredibly good. Option B: Dumbo steaks with optional char-broiling, accompanied by a nightmarish descent into an apocalyptic survival-of-the-fittest hellscape.

No pressure, but those are the two options we face in the 2018 midterm e******ns. Conservatives need to show up and v**e if they like the sound of Option A. Indifference and low turnout will ensure that Option B will be chosen for you.
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Well said! Couldn’t find anything that I disagree with.

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Jul 16, 2018 12:42:13   #
johnsorrell7
 
Over a trillion dollars in student loan debt and a very large percentage of these socialistic students can’t find a job. Half, if not more, don’t even know the name of our Vice President.....But they got the money!

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Jul 16, 2018 12:44:08   #
johnsorrell7
 
Boy, are you a fool!!!!

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Jul 16, 2018 15:19:13   #
okie don
 
johnsorrell7 wrote:
Over a trillion dollars in student loan debt and a very large percentage of these socialistic students can’t find a job. Half, if not more, don’t even know the name of our Vice President.....But they got the money!


I read the average student loan debt is $37K

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Jul 16, 2018 15:19:56   #
okie don
 
My daughter's included, so she tells me...

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Jul 16, 2018 18:52:28   #
Jean Deaux
 
johnsorrell7 wrote:
Over a trillion dollars in student loan debt and a very large percentage of these socialistic students can’t find a job. Half, if not more, don’t even know the name of our Vice President.....But they got the money!


Approximately half of our high school grads can neither read nor perform arithmetic functions up to standards. Far too many think they are entitled and upon gaining that golden high school diploma will be able to enter the work force as a manager with no additional qualifications because they are "cool" or some such. Alternatively, they think they can go to college and continue their failed study habits and ultimately graduate into a fat "heels on the desk" job with a super salary but no idea of the performance needed to attain it. That's when the rubber hits the road and the realization sinks in that there "ain't no free lunch". And one day soon their parents will want them to move out of the basement and make their own way. Times become hard very quickly. Now, no more free rent and they have an enormous school debt to pay back as well as buying groceries, and if they have a car, a big gasoline bill. etc.

Part of this has to go back to the parents that didn't insist their 'little precious' study and quit drinking beer and smoking dope. Far too many young are either too fat or too stupid to be able to join the military, so that employment avenue is closed. The construction industry is already overflowing with i******s, box stores are being replaced with computer mail order sales and there is no crying demand for street sweepers. Of course, there is always drug dealing, pimping, stealing cars or some other odious occupation but they have very poor long term rewards. Being an author is hard if you can't spell or write a complete sentence and it is very awkward to be a cashier if you have to count change on your fingers. There may be a future as a theater usher or a bell hop but they don't command much of a pay check. Car wash laborers seldom get rich but something may open up in a hospital or school that needs someone to janitor (if the position hasn't been filled by an illegal). Very few qualify as professional athletes but there a few that will be able to get on flipping burgers down at the joint. Still, not really great long term prospects, who wants to retire as an ex burger flipper after 50 years bent over a hot grill.

What it boils down to is kids need to develop a sense of responsibility, buckle down and do their homework, get a part time job and learn some sk**ls, stay in good physical condition, set goals and try to prosper. Nothing worthwhile happens without an effort expended to make it happen. And parents need to supervise to stop their kids from wandering off the path. Nuff said!

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Jul 16, 2018 19:04:19   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
Approximately half of our high school grads can neither read nor perform arithmetic functions up to standards. Far too many think they are entitled and upon gaining that golden high school diploma will be able to enter the work force as a manager with no additional qualifications because they are "cool" or some such. Alternatively, they think they can go to college and continue their failed study habits and ultimately graduate into a fat "heels on the desk" job with a super salary but no idea of the performance needed to attain it. That's when the rubber hits the road and the realization sinks in that there "ain't no free lunch". And one day soon their parents will want them to move out of the basement and make their own way. Times become hard very quickly. Now, no more free rent and they have an enormous school debt to pay back as well as buying groceries, and if they have a car, a big gasoline bill. etc.

Part of this has to go back to the parents that didn't insist their 'little precious' study and quit drinking beer and smoking dope. Far too many young are either too fat or too stupid to be able to join the military, so that employment avenue is closed. The construction industry is already overflowing with i******s, box stores are being replaced with computer mail order sales and there is no crying demand for street sweepers. Of course, there is always drug dealing, pimping, stealing cars or some other odious occupation but they have very poor long term rewards. Being an author is hard if you can't spell or write a complete sentence and it is very awkward to be a cashier if you have to count change on your fingers. There may be a future as a theater usher or a bell hop but they don't command much of a pay check. Car wash laborers seldom get rich but something may open up in a hospital or school that needs someone to janitor (if the position hasn't been filled by an illegal). Very few qualify as professional athletes but there a few that will be able to get on flipping burgers down at the joint. Still, not really great long term prospects, who wants to retire as an ex burger flipper after 50 years bent over a hot grill.

What it boils down to is kids need to develop a sense of responsibility, buckle down and do their homework, get a part time job and learn some sk**ls, stay in good physical condition, set goals and try to prosper. Nothing worthwhile happens without an effort expended to make it happen. And parents need to supervise to stop their kids from wandering off the path. Nuff said!
Approximately half of our high school grads can ne... (show quote)

What fenced in retirement area do you spend all your time in? How many young people do you know?

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Jul 17, 2018 12:14:35   #
acknowledgeurma
 
debeda wrote:
K-12 Is paid in large part by property taxes. Property taxes are already really high in many/most parts of the country. With the cost of college as it now stands I can't imagine what it would do to property taxes. And really, you couldn't use that to fund free college unless kids were bound to go to the college in their "district".

I think all government revenue should come from a graduated income tax. Also, because wealth is power and extreme power differentials (I think) are harmful to societies, a graduated wealth tax might be good.

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Jul 17, 2018 12:35:20   #
debeda
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I think all government revenue should come from a graduated income tax. Also, because wealth is power and extreme power differentials (I think) are harmful to societies, a graduated wealth tax might be good.


Hmmm. Not sure about that one. Kinda very unfair to those of us who work 2 and 3 jobs to survive. Already paying more in taxes with that. And the wealthy having to pay taxes on their interest and investment gains is kind of a wealth tax, yeah?

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Jul 17, 2018 13:30:23   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
Hmmm. Not sure about that one. Kinda very unfair to those of us who work 2 and 3 jobs to survive. Already paying more in taxes with that. And the wealthy having to pay taxes on their interest and investment gains is kind of a wealth tax, yeah?




Do you understand what a graduated income tax is???



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Jul 17, 2018 13:38:36   #
acknowledgeurma
 
debeda wrote:
Hmmm. Not sure about that one. Kinda very unfair to those of us who work 2 and 3 jobs to survive. Already paying more in taxes with that. And the wealthy having to pay taxes on their interest and investment gains is kind of a wealth tax, yeah?

If someone needs to work 2 and 3 jobs to survive, their graduated income tax bracket should probably be negative. I think all income (interest, dividends, capital gains, wages, etc.) should be treated the same.

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Jul 17, 2018 14:21:24   #
Jean Deaux
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
What fenced in retirement area do you spend all your time in? How many young people do you know?


I don't live in a retirement area but rather out in the country. I have a very nice home that I worked for, for many years after busting my tail in school and getting the best grades possible. I served my country and after, I worked overseas for years. The only young people I know are the ones I occasionally meet, many have the idea they are entitled and things will just happen for them. None are too energetic, some have done reasonably well in school but most are happy loafing. And you??

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Jul 17, 2018 14:29:14   #
Jean Deaux
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I think all government revenue should come from a graduated income tax. Also, because wealth is power and extreme power differentials (I think) are harmful to societies, a graduated wealth tax might be good.


As a nation, we started by funding our government with duties and tariffs and later developed taxes. I believe the total number of taxes we are now subject to is 96. Sales tax, property tax, gas tax, luxury tax, etc., in addition to our income tax (which, by the way, is graduated). And, much to the disdain of socialists, we still have the rich among us as well as the poor.

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