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Jul 20, 2018 17:55:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
Did the idea of the New World Order ever occur to you, what with it's having the world run by the uber rich? Try the Rothschild's, Rockefeller's, Gate's, Soro's dynasties for examples of those that have exhibited enthusiasm for such a scheme. And if you have to ask about many on welfare being able bodied I have to ask about your powers of observation. You either have a preconceived notion of all welfare recipients or are easily duped.




I only know 2 people on welfare, one is a man in his 50s who has a bunch of challenges.. best he can do is delv shopping flyers or mow lawns.. He gets all of 800 odd bucks a mo..

the other is an old lady in her 80s who never qualified for SS.. have no idea what she gets..

as I did say, I have no doubt that we have c***ter on welfare.. but do not see all welfare recipients as c***ters..

it seems as if the NWO does exist.. the right wing elected one to be our white house occupant..

all his tax gift is making that NWO stronger every day..

It seems the right wing has won the war for the NWO..



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Jul 20, 2018 18:42:48   #
Jean Deaux
 
permafrost wrote:
I only know 2 people on welfare, one is a man in his 50s who has a bunch of challenges.. best he can do is delv shopping flyers or mow lawns.. He gets all of 800 odd bucks a mo..

the other is an old lady in her 80s who never qualified for SS.. have no idea what she gets..

as I did say, I have no doubt that we have c***ter on welfare.. but do not see all welfare recipients as c***ters..

it seems as if the NWO does exist.. the right wing elected one to be our white house occupant..

all his tax gift is making that NWO stronger every day..

It seems the right wing has won the war for the NWO..
I only know 2 people on welfare, one is a man in h... (show quote)




The only person I know on welfare is my youngest son who is a quadriplegic. I support welfare for those that are genuinely handicapped. The ones that irritate me are the able bodied who feign problems in order to be supported by the rest of society. My son was whacked 3 days before his 22nd birthday, we recently celebrated his 54th birthday and he is still in his wheelchair. Medicaid, like Medicare, is in a precarious financial position and I h**e to see c***ters absorbing it while legitimate cases may have to do without. After having tried a half dozen occupations he is currently repairing computers but it is tough if you have to hold a screwdriver in your mouth. He types by dropping a finger onto the keyboard, but he perseveres! He is currently studying futures on the market in hopes he can make a better living doing that. And he ultimately will; he never stops trying and I admire him greatly.

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Jul 20, 2018 19:01:03   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
The only person I know on welfare is my youngest son who is a quadriplegic. I support welfare for those that are genuinely handicapped. The ones that irritate me are the able bodied who feign problems in order to be supported by the rest of society. My son was whacked 3 days before his 22nd birthday, we recently celebrated his 54th birthday and he is still in his wheelchair. Medicaid, like Medicare, is in a precarious financial position and I h**e to see c***ters absorbing it while legitimate cases may have to do without. After having tried a half dozen occupations he is currently repairing computers but it is tough if you have to hold a screwdriver in your mouth. He types by dropping a finger onto the keyboard, but he perseveres! He is currently studying futures on the market in hopes he can make a better living doing that. And he ultimately will; he never stops trying and I admire him greatly.
The only person I know on welfare is my youngest s... (show quote)



Wow.. blessings to your son.. he is a very courageous fighter...

I completly agree on these points you make.. the c***ters could destroy the benefit for those who truly need them..

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Jul 20, 2018 19:41:08   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
If you have ever sat in a SS office all day it’s a wake up call. I have never seen that many fat, young people looking for benefits. Amazing. Your son sounds like the kind of man any parent would be proud of.
Jean Deaux wrote:
The only person I know on welfare is my youngest son who is a quadriplegic. I support welfare for those that are genuinely handicapped. The ones that irritate me are the able bodied who feign problems in order to be supported by the rest of society. My son was whacked 3 days before his 22nd birthday, we recently celebrated his 54th birthday and he is still in his wheelchair. Medicaid, like Medicare, is in a precarious financial position and I h**e to see c***ters absorbing it while legitimate cases may have to do without. After having tried a half dozen occupations he is currently repairing computers but it is tough if you have to hold a screwdriver in your mouth. He types by dropping a finger onto the keyboard, but he perseveres! He is currently studying futures on the market in hopes he can make a better living doing that. And he ultimately will; he never stops trying and I admire him greatly.
The only person I know on welfare is my youngest s... (show quote)

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Jul 20, 2018 19:50:30   #
kenvrla Loc: East Tx Piney Woods
 
permafrost wrote:
wrong, I did not say "nobody".. you said all..

I have no doubt that welfare c***ter exist.. It seem anywhere that money in involve we will have c***ters..

Sometimes they are orange, other times simply fools who know no better.

but I do not think a policy, any policy should be removed because it does not work to perfection..

It should by fixed. by wh**ever means..


Don't use the orange thing, pafret. It is beneath your intelligence. Have a good evening.

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Jul 20, 2018 22:09:22   #
debeda
 
permafrost wrote:
wrong, I did not say "nobody".. you said all..

I have no doubt that welfare c***ter exist.. It seem anywhere that money in involve we will have c***ters..

Sometimes they are orange, other times simply fools who know no better.

but I do not think a policy, any policy should be removed because it does not work to perfection..

It should by fixed. by wh**ever means..


Yep. Kinda like immigration control.

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Jul 20, 2018 23:31:31   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
I simply mentioned that Cuba has been in economic and technological stasis since the c*******t takeover. That has nothing to do with access to resources equal to the USA, unless you think Cuba has no access to any resources whatsoever.

And I said compare Batista's Cuba to today's Cuba. If one considers increased literacy, increased access to education, increased access to healthcare are economic and technological advances then your contention that Cuba has been in stasis in these areas is inaccurate.

Regarding a nation becoming a superpower:
If you think that access to resources has nothing to do with a nation becoming a superpower, then I think you do not understand what it takes to become a superpower. Your bit of sarcasm referring to the superpower Cuba made me wonder what it would take for Cuba to become a superpower. Looking at past superpowers, and given Cuba's available resources I think it's unlikely they would ever become a superpower no matter their economic/political system. But if they had access to the same resources as the US, then... After all, the USSR became a superpower despite (because?) of their system. And the PRC seems on its way to becoming a superpower.

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Jul 20, 2018 23:45:28   #
acknowledgeurma
 
I wrote, "In general, theories rarely work at the extremes."
Then:
Voice of Reason wrote:
Not true, except for l*****t theories. Take libertarian philosophy for example: If everybody supported themselves and their families and lived freely, without infringing on the rights or property of others, and without c***ting others, that society would thrive. And there would be plenty of resources for people to voluntarily help the disabled and those in need.

Well I have to admit, you have proved me wrong. Libertarian philosophy does work at the extremes, unfortunately that is only where it works. Read again what you wrote and tell me this could happen with actual human beings.

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Jul 21, 2018 00:02:29   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
How rich do you think Amazon would be if they provided the funding to pay for everybody's purchases?

Well, we may be on our way to that situation, as fast as Amazon is growing. Someday we may all be Amazon employees or stockholders. I imagine at that point King Jeff would be mighty rich (powerful).

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Jul 21, 2018 00:17:43   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
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Wealth is relative! I had no idea that those on welfare get "riches" but the money they spend on the economy
is certainly not a major profit factor unless that economy is barely surviving. "If Cuba" sounds like a takeoff of the old saying, "If a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his butt", or clinton's, "It depends what the definition of 'is' is". At your age and level of wisdom, you surely know and have to appreciate the superiority of capitalism to c*******m. Capitalism has succeeded based on constant improvement to the economy and technology, while c*******m has failed in its every attempt. Even Russia and China are no longer the stalwart enthusiasts they once were.
: br br Wealth is relative! I had no idea that t... (show quote)

The little I understand about Marxism (and his conception of c*******m) leads me to think that no country has ever achieved his ideal of c*******m. Marx believed c*******m would come out of a capitalistic system not a feudal peasant society like pre-revolutionary Russia and China. They didn't become c*******t, they just changed the title Tzar to General Secretary and nobility to nomenclature.

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Jul 21, 2018 13:18:53   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
The only person I know on welfare is my youngest son who is a quadriplegic. I support welfare for those that are genuinely handicapped. The ones that irritate me are the able bodied who feign problems in order to be supported by the rest of society. My son was whacked 3 days before his 22nd birthday, we recently celebrated his 54th birthday and he is still in his wheelchair. Medicaid, like Medicare, is in a precarious financial position and I h**e to see c***ters absorbing it while legitimate cases may have to do without. After having tried a half dozen occupations he is currently repairing computers but it is tough if you have to hold a screwdriver in your mouth. He types by dropping a finger onto the keyboard, but he perseveres! He is currently studying futures on the market in hopes he can make a better living doing that. And he ultimately will; he never stops trying and I admire him greatly.
The only person I know on welfare is my youngest s... (show quote)


Your son sounds like the quintessential anti-l*****t. He is truly disabled and yet has found ways to work and support himself and get the most from his life.

L*****ts, on the other hand, who are completely able-bodied search for micro-aggressions which they then claim cause mental anguish rendering them incapable of lifting a finger to help themselves or anybody else, for life.

Hats off to your son.

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Jul 21, 2018 13:55:37   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:

Regarding a nation becoming a superpower:
If you think that access to resources has nothing to do with a nation becoming a superpower, then I think you do not understand what it takes to become a superpower. Your bit of sarcasm referring to the superpower Cuba made me wonder what it would take for Cuba to become a superpower. Looking at past superpowers, and given Cuba's available resources I think it's unlikely they would ever become a superpower no matter their economic/political system. But if they had access to the same resources as the US, then... After all, the USSR became a superpower despite (because?) of their system. And the PRC seems on its way to becoming a superpower.
br Regarding a nation becoming a superpower: br ... (show quote)


Actually, that is an interesting question, what part does resource availability play in a nation becoming a superpower?

The former USSR was a superpower and had/has resources comparable to the USA. However, while they achieved superpower status militarily, the citizens had a deplorably low standard of living.

The USA became a superpower both militarily and financially, maintaining the strongest military in the world and the highest standard of living.

Great Britain is a superpower despite the fact that their resources are considerably less than the USA or USSR. They maintain a strong military and considerable economic clout while the citizenry enjoy a high standard of living.

Canada has resources similar to the US and USSR, but is not a superpower militarily or financially, although the citizenry enjoy a high standard of living.

Mexico has resources similar to the USA, but isn't a superpower or even a first-world country.

Brazil has resources similar to the USA, but isn't a superpower and keeps oscillating between first- and second-world status. Most of its citizens enjoy a high standard of living while a considerable percentage live in abject poverty.

Venezuela has resources similar to the USA, and was a first-world country although never a superpower prior to the l*****t takeover. Now, thanks to Chavez and Maduro, it's a third-world basket case.

Australia has resources similar to the USA and is a first-world country with a high standard of living, but not a superpower.

Japan has few resources and was pretty close to a superpower prior to and during WWII. They are no longer a military superpower but are an economic one with a high standard of living.

S Korea has few resources and is not a military superpower, but is an economic powerhouse with a high standard of living.

N Korea has resources similar to S Korea, and while it is not a superpower it does have an impressive military and nukes. Unfortunately, the citizenry endures a lifestyle that would make the fate of those in the former USSR seem enviable.

China, or the PRC, has massive resources but was a third-world country under the c*******ts until they decided to open 'special economic zones' where capitalism, profit and private property are not illegal. That allowed them to quickly advance from nothing to a superpower both economically and militarily without any increase in natural resources. The increase in the standard of living for those who chose to take advantage of the opportunity to improve their own lives is nothing short of phenomenal.

All in all, it seems that availability of resources, while it does play a role in determining superpower status, it is not the defining factor.

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Jul 21, 2018 14:02:37   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Well, we may be on our way to that situation, as fast as Amazon is growing. Someday we may all be Amazon employees or stockholders. I imagine at that point King Jeff would be mighty rich (powerful).


Everything goes in cycles. Amazon is today what Sears was in the 30's through the 60's or 70's. Look at Sears now. And, the SCOTUS recently destroyed a major reason for Amazon's success, so I suspect they will begin to decline before too much longer.

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Jul 21, 2018 14:52:05   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
Everything goes in cycles. Amazon is today what Sears was in the 30's through the 60's or 70's. Look at Sears now. And, the SCOTUS recently destroyed a major reason for Amazon's success, so I suspect they will begin to decline before too much longer.

If you are referring to Wayfair vs. South Dakota, Business Insider doesn't think it will have much effect on Amazon. See:
http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-supreme-court-sales-tax-ruling-2018-6

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