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Jun 28, 2018 14:23:58   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
son of witless wrote:
I agree. As long as we have a political draw nothing will be done. One side gets the upper hand for awhile, but the other side comes back and does the opposite. Either Republicans will finally win and secure the border, or Democrats will open it up and destroy America.

" May you live in interesting times. "


Securing the border and keeping up on visas are Constitutional mandates. They will be done.

Dealing as mercifully as possible with i******s here would be nice and has already been offered and rejected by the Dems who could care less about "dreamers" or any other group they pretend to support.

Fixing the red tape? That's a biggie.

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Jun 28, 2018 15:34:53   #
Betta
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
The recent travel ban win has given Trump a renewed momentum.

I think he's gonna roll right over any attempt to pork up the deal.

My money's on the Prez.


Mine too!

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Jun 28, 2018 15:42:04   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Super Dave wrote:
Big Government cronyism is not capiiolism.


Capitalist buying favors from politicians is an act of a capitalist.

The tax laws favor the taxing of interest or capital gains over wages.

Have it your way I have assets so I don't really care.

I just think always wanting more for ones self over others is not the best way to live life.
Saving ones money once earned a fair return.
Now no matter what you do with your (You as an individual) money some one uses it for their own gain.

My income now is mostly from social security, my wife's small pension & a small 401.
I have a small on line trading account.
I have reinvested the dividends from some stocks. I show a small over all gain.
While having tens of thousand in losses from dividends I have reinvested.

I do know a quite a bit about tax laws.

I had a small rental property.
That became a burden on my time.
As the mix in tenants changed from those with some assets to those with little income.

At this time I have extra cash & not enough income & looking to invest for more income.

I have a daughter who is unemployed because the company where she worked when bankrupt.
If she would like to have her own business I will invest in her.
I have loaned some money to a son in his hose flipping adventure with interest.

So you could say that I could be seen as a capitalist.
But it all boils down to how much will I be able to want or get in return.

Let me just say that my expectations are modest.

I am aware of offers to invest it potential gains in high percentages.
If I would just agree to fee for the information.
I just don't want to pay some one who would see gains just by me buying what they suggest.
They all seem to me as Ponzi Schemes.

Why do I put this information out:
For one on a personal level I may be quite conservative.
On a political level I am very liberal.

So many on this site do not know or care what my basic message is.
I have put this information down.
Because I can see both sides of the issues better than most.
Who only look at one side.

There comes a time in each persons life to say I have enough.
For most of us that may come at a reasonable level.

For some there seems to be no limit at what they seek.
I see this having a negative impact on our system.

At any one time there is only so much to go around.
Then the wants of some use the needs of others to fill the gaps they feel they deserve.
There is a point where the rest of us have to say stop.
We have a way of doing this & it is called progressive taxation.

As things are now & how some would wish to loosen up inheritance taxes will further help the rich to keep passing of more wealth.

I can only say that each of us has to understand what the total impact of the tax structure is on all of us.

We all see some things is being not right.
We just don't see it all in the right light.

It is not a big change that is need.
For most of us who feel we are a part of the middle may not see any real change.
If it is done right the will be less at the top & more people at the bottom will be drawn in to the main stream of life.
Becoming vital parts much like us to truly bear the load needed to keep the system alive.

If you are a small business person you have to ask your self:
What is more important to my bottom line.
The person walking through my door having a couple dollars more now?
On another person able to afford what I have to offer.
Or that banker that has more of that money first.
Leaving me with out that customer.

It has been the job of those in the middle to be the producers of the goods or passing on the money exchange for those goods to the top of the chain.

That's it for what ever it is worth.

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Jun 28, 2018 16:02:55   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Super Dave wrote:
To Democrats and RINOs Comprehensive means:
1. Let all foreignerss in leagally as immigrants
2. Give all i******s amnesty making them immigrants
3. Give all immigrants welfare
4. Give all immigrants amnesty
5. Give all immigrants citizens
6. Register all immigrants to v**e for the Democrat Party

Did I miss anything?


I'm trying to think.

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Jun 28, 2018 16:06:38   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Capitalist buying favors from politicians is an act of a capitalist.

The tax laws favor the taxing of interest or capital gains over wages.

Have it your way I have assets so I don't really care.

I just think always wanting more for ones self over others is not the best way to live life.
Saving ones money once earned a fair return.
Now no matter what you do with your (You as an individual) money some one uses it for their own gain.

My income now is mostly from social security, my wife's small pension & a small 401.
I have a small on line trading account.
I have reinvested the dividends from some stocks. I show a small over all gain.
While having tens of thousand in losses from dividends I have reinvested.

I do know a quite a bit about tax laws.

I had a small rental property.
That became a burden on my time.
As the mix in tenants changed from those with some assets to those with little income.

At this time I have extra cash & not enough income & looking to invest for more income.

I have a daughter who is unemployed because the company where she worked when bankrupt.
If she would like to have her own business I will invest in her.
I have loaned some money to a son in his hose flipping adventure with interest.

So you could say that I could be seen as a capitalist.
But it all boils down to how much will I be able to want or get in return.

Let me just say that my expectations are modest.

I am aware of offers to invest it potential gains in high percentages.
If I would just agree to fee for the information.
I just don't want to pay some one who would see gains just by me buying what they suggest.
They all seem to me as Ponzi Schemes.

Why do I put this information out:
For one on a personal level I may be quite conservative.
On a political level I am very liberal.

So many on this site do not know or care what my basic message is.
I have put this information down.
Because I can see both sides of the issues better than most.
Who only look at one side.

There comes a time in each persons life to say I have enough.
For most of us that may come at a reasonable level.

For some there seems to be no limit at what they seek.
I see this having a negative impact on our system.

At any one time there is only so much to go around.
Then the wants of some use the needs of others to fill the gaps they feel they deserve.
There is a point where the rest of us have to say stop.
We have a way of doing this & it is called progressive taxation.

As things are now & how some would wish to loosen up inheritance taxes will further help the rich to keep passing of more wealth.

I can only say that each of us has to understand what the total impact of the tax structure is on all of us.

We all see some things is being not right.
We just don't see it all in the right light.

It is not a big change that is need.
For most of us who feel we are a part of the middle may not see any real change.
If it is done right the will be less at the top & more people at the bottom will be drawn in to the main stream of life.
Becoming vital parts much like us to truly bear the load needed to keep the system alive.

If you are a small business person you have to ask your self:
What is more important to my bottom line.
The person walking through my door having a couple dollars more now?
On another person able to afford what I have to offer.
Or that banker that has more of that money first.
Leaving me with out that customer.

It has been the job of those in the middle to be the producers of the goods or passing on the money exchange for those goods to the top of the chain.

That's it for what ever it is worth.
Capitalist buying favors from politicians is an ac... (show quote)


C*******ts buy favors from politicians too.

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Jun 28, 2018 16:17:24   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
BigMike wrote:
C*******ts buy favors from politicians too.


They don't seem to pay for the tax change laws.

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Jun 28, 2018 16:22:17   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Capitalist buying favors from politicians is an act of a capitalist.

The tax laws favor the taxing of interest or capital gains over wages.

Have it your way I have assets so I don't really care.

I just think always wanting more for ones self over others is not the best way to live life.
Saving ones money once earned a fair return.
Now no matter what you do with your (You as an individual) money some one uses it for their own gain.

My income now is mostly from social security, my wife's small pension & a small 401.
I have a small on line trading account.
I have reinvested the dividends from some stocks. I show a small over all gain.
While having tens of thousand in losses from dividends I have reinvested.

I do know a quite a bit about tax laws.

I had a small rental property.
That became a burden on my time.
As the mix in tenants changed from those with some assets to those with little income.

At this time I have extra cash & not enough income & looking to invest for more income.

I have a daughter who is unemployed because the company where she worked when bankrupt.
If she would like to have her own business I will invest in her.
I have loaned some money to a son in his hose flipping adventure with interest.

So you could say that I could be seen as a capitalist.
But it all boils down to how much will I be able to want or get in return.

Let me just say that my expectations are modest.

I am aware of offers to invest it potential gains in high percentages.
If I would just agree to fee for the information.
I just don't want to pay some one who would see gains just by me buying what they suggest.
They all seem to me as Ponzi Schemes.

Why do I put this information out:
For one on a personal level I may be quite conservative.
On a political level I am very liberal.

So many on this site do not know or care what my basic message is.
I have put this information down.
Because I can see both sides of the issues better than most.
Who only look at one side.

There comes a time in each persons life to say I have enough.
For most of us that may come at a reasonable level.

For some there seems to be no limit at what they seek.
I see this having a negative impact on our system.

At any one time there is only so much to go around.
Then the wants of some use the needs of others to fill the gaps they feel they deserve.
There is a point where the rest of us have to say stop.
We have a way of doing this & it is called progressive taxation.

As things are now & how some would wish to loosen up inheritance taxes will further help the rich to keep passing of more wealth.

I can only say that each of us has to understand what the total impact of the tax structure is on all of us.

We all see some things is being not right.
We just don't see it all in the right light.

It is not a big change that is need.
For most of us who feel we are a part of the middle may not see any real change.
If it is done right the will be less at the top & more people at the bottom will be drawn in to the main stream of life.
Becoming vital parts much like us to truly bear the load needed to keep the system alive.

If you are a small business person you have to ask your self:
What is more important to my bottom line.
The person walking through my door having a couple dollars more now?
On another person able to afford what I have to offer.
Or that banker that has more of that money first.
Leaving me with out that customer.

It has been the job of those in the middle to be the producers of the goods or passing on the money exchange for those goods to the top of the chain.

That's it for what ever it is worth.
Capitalist buying favors from politicians is an ac... (show quote)


No... Capitolism is the free exchange of goods and services for compensation.

When government puts it's fat fingers in the pie it isn't capitolism any more.

cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/Submit
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.

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Jun 28, 2018 16:40:27   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Super Dave wrote:
Socialism is the politics of greed.

Same for it's ugly sisters, C*******m, Marxism and Progressivism.

The feeling that one person is entitled to the fruit of other people's labor is fundamentally counter-productive and un-American.


So all of those working producing things that show profits is not to be shared fairly with them.

It is okay for the owner to get more out than they put in.
It is okay that the worker has to get paid less than they are worth.
While being glad they have a job. Accepting as little as some one will pay them.

In a good economic system enough money needs to be in circulation to buy the products & services offered.

Or is that not a good idea.
In this situation both side look to the government for money to keep on going.
So just who is the socialist in this setting. Oops it is every body.

Every one is a c*******t.

We need to go back to the drawing board.

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Jun 28, 2018 16:45:54   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
So all of those working producing things that show profits is not to be shared fairly with them.

It is okay for the owner to get more out than they put in.
It is okay that the worker has to get paid less than they are worth.
While being glad they have a job. Accepting as little as some one will pay them.

In a good economic system enough money needs to be in circulation to buy the products & services offered.

Or is that not a good idea.
In this situation both side look to the government for money to keep on going.
So just who is the socialist in this setting. Oops it is every body.

Every one is a c*******t.

We need to go back to the drawing board.
So all of those working producing things that show... (show quote)
No. Everyone is not a C*******t.

C*******ts expect government to run their lives. America was built on people willing to run their own lives.

Capitolism isn't perfect, it's just better than every other economic system.

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Jun 28, 2018 18:43:35   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
Super Dave wrote:
No. Everyone is not a C*******t.

C*******ts expect government to run their lives. America was built on people willing to run their own lives.

Capitolism isn't perfect, it's just better than every other economic system.


I will stand by what I have said.

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Jun 28, 2018 20:00:12   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
They don't seem to pay for the tax change laws.


Money's fungible. It finds its level. Don't read more in my post than I meant.

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Jun 28, 2018 20:02:33   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
I will stand by what I have said.


And we know who and how and why the Bolsheviks were financed and why the Soviet Union fell.

Even c*******ts need loans.

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Jun 28, 2018 20:14:08   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
BigMike wrote:
Money's fungible. It finds its level. Don't read more in my post than I meant.


Once it is on paper the words speak for them self.

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Jun 28, 2018 23:13:35   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Once it is on paper the words speak for them self.


Numbers speak even more t***hfully.

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Jun 29, 2018 07:35:27   #
maureenthannon
 
Sorry to hear about your mother. MayTHE Comforter, help you get through this period of mournig. GOD BLESS YOU!!

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