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Jun 19, 2018 00:06:27   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Floyd, even though we are on opposite party ideologies, supportive of different policies and agendas and even opposed to the other, it is good to have discussions with you knowing they remain civil and non offensive with respect.

Thanks and have a great day.


It all falls in line in what I say we need to do.
That is what every one needs to do.

It is not what any one individual believes it is the sum total of what every on believes.
That needs to be digested by others until a consensus is achieved.

The choice of & the aragement of words plays a big part in puting thoughts & ideas across.

I look forward to more exchanges.
Just remember that others read what we put down.
The coclusions they reach may well have the greater impact on what ends up.

I look at as spreaing seeds.
Seeds that others will have an impact on the out come of results.

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Jun 19, 2018 00:18:14   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
It all falls in line in what I say we need to do.
That is what every one needs to do.

It is not what any one individual believes it is the sum total of what every on believes.
That needs to be digested by others until a consensus is achieved.

The choice of & the aragement of words plays a big part in puting thoughts & ideas across.

I look forward to more exchanges.
Just remember that others read what we put down.
The coclusions they reach may well have the greater impact on what ends up.

I look at as spreaing seeds.
Seeds that others will have an impact on the out come of results.
It all falls in line in what I say we need to do. ... (show quote)



Thanks Floyd,
I see no need to apologize for our exchange that was friendly. But then it is a rare occurrence. I'm laughing to myself (not mentioning names) thinking of how different the dialog of our discussion would have been had it been between (? On the left) and (? On the right). His "Government" topic would be filled with multiple exchanges of smears, insults, and h**e, that would have gone on many different tracks.

It's as you said, State your case (plant the seeds) know when the conversation has reached saturation and move on.

Take care and have a great day

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Jun 19, 2018 00:27:51   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Thanks Floyd,
I see no need to apologize for our exchange that was friendly. But then it is a rare occurrence. I'm laughing to myself (not mentioning names) thinking of how different the dialog of our discussion would have been had it been between (? On the left) and (? On the right). His "Government" topic would be filled with multiple exchanges of smears, insults, and h**e, that would have gone on many different tracks.

It's as you said, State your case (plant the seeds) know when the conversation has reached saturation and move on.

Take care and have a great day
Thanks Floyd, br I see no need to apologize for ... (show quote)


I think we have set a pleasant tone on this site.

People are much more logical than they let on to be.

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Jun 19, 2018 10:55:24   #
bahmer
 
sisboombaa wrote:
Many years ago I was asked "what is the best form of government?". I answered, a dictatorship, IF, the dictator is smart, well educated, loves the country, loves the citizens, and cares for the well being of the population more than his/her own self; much like most healthy immediate family structures. Failing to find such a person we must find another form of government. Our forefathers designed our present form and called it a republic. For over 200 years it has worked well. It has always been challenged but never as seriously as now. I fear for my loved ones, friends and most of our fellow Americans as I wait to take my leave of this world. I fear the possible future for others; am pleased that I lived my life during the good times. Am now old, living on borrowed time and I'm ready to leave both mentally, emotionally and in spirit. I wish all of those who will survive me good fortune. It is my humble opinion that President Donald Trump will do good for our country if given some help from the right people and the v**ers. However, I'm not very optimistic as there is much h**e around us. Hatred is the biggest destructive force we have on this planet.
Many years ago I was asked "what is the best ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jun 19, 2018 12:30:27   #
donald41 Loc: puyallup Wa
 
sisboombaa wrote:
Many years ago I was asked "what is the best form of government?". I answered, a dictatorship, IF, the dictator is smart, well educated, loves the country, loves the citizens, and cares for the well being of the population more than his/her own self; much like most healthy immediate family structures. Failing to find such a person we must find another form of government. Our forefathers designed our present form and called it a republic. For over 200 years it has worked well. It has always been challenged but never as seriously as now. I fear for my loved ones, friends and most of our fellow Americans as I wait to take my leave of this world. I fear the possible future for others; am pleased that I lived my life during the good times. Am now old, living on borrowed time and I'm ready to leave both mentally, emotionally and in spirit. I wish all of those who will survive me good fortune. It is my humble opinion that President Donald Trump will do good for our country if given some help from the right people and the v**ers. However, I'm not very optimistic as there is much h**e around us. Hatred is the biggest destructive force we have on this planet.
Many years ago I was asked "what is the best ... (show quote)


Very good, Short and true.

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Jun 19, 2018 12:47:52   #
sisboombaa
 
A big thanks to all posters on this thread for your politeness and respect for one another. No one (yet) has resulted to name calling or shown a display of anger. This is how most other threads should be conducted by all contributors. If we can eliminate any h**e among ourselves we all will be so much better for it.

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Jun 19, 2018 13:36:09   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
sisboombaa wrote:
A big thanks to all posters on this thread for your politeness and respect for one another. No one (yet) has resulted to name calling or shown a display of anger. This is how most other threads should be conducted by all contributors. If we can eliminate any h**e among ourselves we all will be so much better for it.


Well this is a good step.
We may differ but when we respect each other we do create a better world.

i think we were on that path & you just helped it out more.

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Jun 19, 2018 14:10:51   #
jim_shipley
 
There are only two types of religion. Western ones based on fear and punishment and eastern ones based on personal fulfillment.

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Jun 20, 2018 00:51:37   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Stop & go back over what you just said.

Most of us believe in a supreme being.

Well man-kind has been waiting for God to fulfill man kinds destine.
We if you believe in the part of the Garden of Eden.
Then perhaps you will recall that Gods rule for Adam & Eve was broken.
Then they were evicted.
Being put out on their own.

So we are on our on own to fix the world.
We are what can be said is a fitting punishment for the sins of man-kind by Adam & Eve.

The 3 major religions have a very common base.
Man-kind has allowed the small differences to divide us in a perpetual battle.

The answer is not from with in each religion it is with in the commonality of us all.
Stop & go back over what you just said. br br... (show quote)


Excellent Mr. Brown

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Jun 20, 2018 02:37:46   #
JoyV
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Can I put it in:
We just need to get along with each other.

We all do this on a limited basis now.
We just need t do it on a larger scale.

Little by little it can spread across the whole world.

First we need to look at why we are divided.
To find out the why & who behind it all.


The only way we will all get along is for everyone to get lobotomies or be given a chemical equivalent.

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Jun 20, 2018 02:46:29   #
JoyV
 
jim_shipley wrote:
There are only two types of religion. Western ones based on fear and punishment and eastern ones based on personal fulfillment.


Hinduism doesn't fit your hypothesis?

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Jun 20, 2018 03:07:38   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
Stop & go back over what you just said.

Most of us believe in a supreme being.

Well man-kind has been waiting for God to fulfill man kinds destine.
We if you believe in the part of the Garden of Eden.
Then perhaps you will recall that Gods rule for Adam & Eve was broken.
Then they were evicted.
Being put out on their own.

So we are on our on own to fix the world.
We are what can be said is a fitting punishment for the sins of man-kind by Adam & Eve.

The 3 major religions have a very common base.
Man-kind has allowed the small differences to divide us in a perpetual battle.

The answer is not from with in each religion it is with in the commonality of us all.
Stop & go back over what you just said. br br... (show quote)




Just a few friendly thoughts...

We were not put here to fix the world, but to worship our God.
God old testament plan was to worship him, and rely on him. It is man's rejection of God and man's "sin" nature (greed, lust, covetousness, selfish, rejection of God ) that cause wars, fighting among themselves.
Our world has a history since the tower of babble, wondering in the wilderness "golden calf" on hundreds of ungodly worship, cults and occults, idol worship, false God's.

Judaism and Christianity are the same with the difference of Messianic, where Islam worships pagan God's, moon God's, embedded with h**e. Only two of the three major religions have a common base.
There is much revisionist false history written, Christians and Jewish faught together "defensive" while Islam "offensive" to eradicate the Jewish and Christian peoples. The Catholic divided off including idol worship and through corruption, power, greed, k**led Christians and for a period of time anyone against the Church, it also includes pagan and cultic practices.
The church age from the time of Jesus has been salvation not of good works, no works of any kind, but by grace, saved through faith.
Since sin entered the world, sin separated man from God. Old testament a sacrifice, the blood covering sins, new testament Jesus was once and for all the final sacrifice for all man's sins, his blood covering all sins to all who believe in him "grace/faith".
Conclusion,
Our purpose, why am I here? To honor and worship our creator God.

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Jun 20, 2018 08:46:03   #
jim_shipley
 
Could be, I doubt many non Hindus understand much about Hinduism. I know I don't

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Jun 20, 2018 23:21:28   #
maryjane
 
old marine wrote:
I pray you are right.

God bless preserve, and bless President Trump lead, guide and direct him in doing your will.. Amen and amen.


So do I, but some days, it is so hard to believe that wgen I am so worried for my country's future. It makes me so sad to think about carelessly and thoughtlessly Americans are throwing away everything that matters most.

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