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May 18, 2018 15:03:26   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Here you go again Buffalo. It is not about reading. Your reports are F**E NEWS! I don't take that at face value. It is about facts happening with your own people in the real world. Those people who practice luxury at the expense of other people. These have been their lifestyle, and been used to it. Besides free manicure and pedicure, and hair straightening, and coloring, they have been offered free Sec. 8 housing, free food stamps, free phones, free medical care, free schools.

They are not suffering. Fact is they are fat of eating so much. I saw their groceries loaded with all kinds of packaged meat, drinks, and all sorts of food. Fact is their grocery carts are loaded. They are living in luxury compared to those who work hard and pay taxes to feed them. That is why millions from 3rd world countries want to come, to experience this luxury living of the so called poor in the US.

By the way, the people you mentioned don't pay Federal Income tax. Their income do not meet the bracket that is taxable. If they work, the taxes withheld every payday, are fully refunded to to them at year-end when they file IRS tax form 1040. In addition, more money is given for children's 16 years and below or for children up to 26 years of age who are in school.

There are more of those people I've mentioned above during your president Obama. During Obama's time, 46 million households are on food stamps. Fifty-one percent (51%) of households don't pay income tax.

Now with president Trump at the WH, unemployment is currently at 3.9%, b****s at 6.7%, and Mexicans also went down significantly. Because they work, they become producers, no longer dependent on Food Stamps, and Welfare subsidies. They also pay Social Security and Medicare. They become producers and now have since of p***e and dignity of their lives.

For 14 months of president Trump at the WH, he has done significant improvements on our economy, national security, immigration, and world respect for the United States.

God purposely put president Trump at the WH to save America from the destruction of Obama via the Deep State now currently very powerful underground forces. The president has been restoring the massive damages to our country during the Obama years, along with your crooked Hillary Clinton.
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And you have personally witnessed how many getting " free manicure and pedicure, and hair straightening, and coloring, they have been offered free Sec. 8 housing, free food stamps, free phones, free medical care, free schools."?

They don't pay federal income tax because they don't earn enough above the poverty level.

Although those dependent on food stamps started dropping, even when obammy was still POTUS, after the peak in 2013 of 47.6 MILLION people on them, there is still over 40 MILLION dependent on food stamps. According to YOU they are all deadbeats, eh? Many do not qualify now because their incomes are barely over the poverty threshold at 24,900 annually for a family of 4.

I would doubt some of trumpy's f**e economy but hey that world respect thingy is extremely important.

I doubt God micro-manages the affairs of the US or anything else. It is like my Dad said about a rancher praying to God to make it rain and the neighboring cotton farmer across the fence is praying to God for it not to rain and destroy the emerging cotton plants. He had no doubts that God could make it rain but he didn't think God micro-manages things that way.

GOD did NOT put trumpy in office, the US e*******l system did.

Do you think God would be happy with your attitude about poor people, especially poor children? I guess God, according to you, would be against those poor abused wealthy paying a few more in taxes to feed his little lambs, eh? So, God told trumpy to give those needy wealthy a tax cut and to offset it by punishing those whose freeload, the elderly and poor.

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May 18, 2018 15:16:08   #
Sicilianthing
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Here you go again Buffalo. It is not about reading. Your reports are F**E NEWS! I don't take that at face value. It is about facts happening with your own people in the real world. Those people who practice luxury at the expense of other people. These have been their lifestyle, and been used to it. Besides free manicure and pedicure, and hair straightening, and coloring, they have been offered free Sec. 8 housing, free food stamps, free phones, free medical care, free schools.

They are not suffering. Fact is they are fat of eating so much. I saw their groceries loaded with all kinds of packaged meat, drinks, and all sorts of food. Fact is their grocery carts are loaded. They are living in luxury compared to those who work hard and pay taxes to feed them. That is why millions from 3rd world countries want to come, to experience this luxury living of the so called poor in the US.

By the way, the people you mentioned don't pay Federal Income tax. Their income do not meet the bracket that is taxable. If they work, the taxes withheld every payday, are fully refunded to to them at year-end when they file IRS tax form 1040. In addition, more money is given for children's 16 years and below or for children up to 26 years of age who are in school.

There are more of those people I've mentioned above during your president Obama. During Obama's time, 46 million households are on food stamps. Fifty-one percent (51%) of households don't pay income tax.

Now with president Trump at the WH, unemployment is currently at 3.9%, b****s at 6.7%, and Mexicans also went down significantly. Because they work, they become producers, no longer dependent on Food Stamps, and Welfare subsidies. They also pay Social Security and Medicare. They become producers and now have since of p***e and dignity of their lives.

For 14 months of president Trump at the WH, he has done significant improvements on our economy, national security, immigration, and world respect for the United States.

God purposely put president Trump at the WH to save America from the destruction of Obama via the Deep State now currently very powerful underground forces. The president has been restoring the massive damages to our country during the Obama years, along with your crooked Hillary Clinton.
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Also very valid Factual Points.

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May 18, 2018 15:18:49   #
Sicilianthing
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You mean to say those living in Section 8 apartments are rich? I saw them coming home to the Sec. 8 apartments.


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Lack of Proper education, higher learning, advanced academics is the root to most of these problems.

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May 18, 2018 15:22:32   #
Sicilianthing
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Sici, although I agree with you in some issues, these mass deportation of the 22 million i******s are impossible. You see there are some i******s here who work very hard to make a living on the farms, household works, janitorial, and in hospitals. B***k A******ns or w****s will not do these jobs. They'd rather handout.

Farming is one of the main sources of our economy. And most of the people working there are i*****l a***ns to feed their families. Also so many household tasks, that American won't do. E.g. Those doing the lawn maintenance are mostly Mexicans, and Asians. For 26 years, my lawn had been maintained by these people beautifully. Now I make sure that I hire legal immigrants to do the jobs. Before I had no idea, but they worked hard. I gave them better pay because I pity them. These are the situations, when we must look into considerations, or find means to work here legally. I think US must give them "work permits", instead of just driving them away. I know God loves them too. You are a Christian, and God asks us to feed his lambs.

Those i******s who are breaking the laws, and collecting welfare staying here must be deported.
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Bulls**t !
That’s a Narrative framed by the Usual Suspects who got us into this mess... I no longer believe it and I’ll take my chances with mass deportations...

too little
Too late
Too BAD !

Deport them...I no longer care...

YOU Will NOT Get your Country back by the path and mindset you currently have.

You will be forced to change your stance, pivot and take decisive actions.

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May 18, 2018 15:23:59   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Lack of Proper education, higher learning, advanced academics is the root to most of these problems.


Radiance says that the fault of the poor taking advantage of all that "free educataion"...

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May 18, 2018 15:27:58   #
Sicilianthing
 
buffalo wrote:
Radiance says that the fault of the poor taking advantage of all that "free educataion"...


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IDK anymore, the whole thing is just cooked now on both sides...

I know for a 100% fact that getting rid of all the i******s will create a Vast Open Opportunity for millions of our people to get good paying jobs...

Wages will rise sharply as they should have for the past 30 years but didn’t.

I can go on and on ...

Now it’s all coming into view... give it a little more time.

Companies keep closing
More layoffs are coming
The economy has slipped into recession and everything they’re telling us is a LIE !

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May 18, 2018 15:55:07   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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IDK anymore, the whole thing is just cooked now on both sides...

I know for a 100% fact that getting rid of all the i******s will create a Vast Open Opportunity for millions of our people to get good paying jobs...

Wages will rise sharply as they should have for the past 30 years but didn’t.

I can go on and on ...

Now it’s all coming into view... give it a little more time.

Companies keep closing
More layoffs are coming
The economy has slipped into recession and everything they’re telling us is a LIE !
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With regards to the economy, IMO we ain't seen nothin yet. Just hide and watch and see how that tax cut and jobs act works for the wealthy and big corporations. For the middle class and poor not so much as they bear the brunt of the cuts coming to offset the deficits created by those tax cut for the wealthy and big corporations.

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May 18, 2018 16:11:03   #
Sicilianthing
 
buffalo wrote:
With regards to the economy, IMO we ain't seen nothin yet. Just hide and watch and see how that tax cut and jobs act works for the wealthy and big corporations. For the middle class and poor not so much as they bear the brunt of the cuts coming to offset the deficits created by those tax cut for the wealthy and big corporations.


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I know, you are correct, I visit companies everyday and I ask them if they benefit from this tax sham... and 9 out of 10 say No deal.

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May 18, 2018 17:23:14   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I know, you are correct, I visit companies everyday and I ask them if they benefit from this tax sham... and 9 out of 10 say No deal.


And those big corporations that are benefiting from the tax cut and jobs are spending it on themselves. Surprise, surprise, surprise! Who woulda thunk it? Trickle down is still a lie.

"But now, courtesy of Goldman Sachs, we know where the tax cut is really going. Surprise! It’s paying for stock repurchases by corporations, as Corporate America despairs of investing in much other than dividing the pie provided by near-record profitability into fewer and larger pieces.

Buyback announcements are up 22% this year to $67 billion in just six weeks, Goldman said in a note to clients.

It’s early days, yes, but the signs point to pretty much exactly what skeptics of the tax bill predicted — an upward redistribution of wealth with little obvious macro payoff.

Surprise!"

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/now-we-know-where-the-tax-cut-is-going-share-buybacks-2018-02-22

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May 18, 2018 17:38:49   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Economists agree: Trump, not Obama, gets credit for economy

The Wall Street Journal asked 68 business, financial and academic economists who was responsible for the strengthening of the economy, and most “suggested Mr. Trump’s e******n deserves at least some credit” for the upturn. A majority said the president had been “somewhat” or “strongly” positive for job creation, gross domestic product growth and the rising stock market.

Investor's Business Daily: Love Him Or H**e Him, Trump Deserves Credit For Booming Economy

USNews: Mainstream media are refusing to give Trump his due for the record-breaking economy.

NYT: The Trump Boom Is Making It Harder to See the Next Recession

The Observer: How Trump Got the Economy Booming in Less Than a Year

CNBC: BET founder: Trump's economy is bringing black workers back into the labor force

USA Today: List of companies that paid bonuses or boosted pay since tax bill passed

164 companies give bonuses, lower fees to millions, citing Trump tax cuts

Tax reform windfall: These companies are hiking pay, delivering bonuses

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May 18, 2018 18:28:41   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
Yeap, there you have it ...3 states you mentioned are ran by Democrats...New Mexico, California and Hawaii....Just answered your own question...

New Mexico is run by conservatives...just saying...

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May 18, 2018 21:57:09   #
Sicilianthing
 
buffalo wrote:
And those big corporations that are benefiting from the tax cut and jobs are spending it on themselves. Surprise, surprise, surprise! Who woulda thunk it? Trickle down is still a lie.

"But now, courtesy of Goldman Sachs, we know where the tax cut is really going. Surprise! It’s paying for stock repurchases by corporations, as Corporate America despairs of investing in much other than dividing the pie provided by near-record profitability into fewer and larger pieces.

Buyback announcements are up 22% this year to $67 billion in just six weeks, Goldman said in a note to clients.

It’s early days, yes, but the signs point to pretty much exactly what skeptics of the tax bill predicted — an upward redistribution of wealth with little obvious macro payoff.

Surprise!"

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/now-we-know-where-the-tax-cut-is-going-share-buybacks-2018-02-22
And those big corporations that are benefiting fro... (show quote)


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Yep it just sickens me and I support Trump from a distance... so far...
they think because a company gives it’s employees a $1,000 bonus that’s a big deal... when no one has really gotten anything substantial for 30years...

Only 1 company I know of shared it’s wealth with all the employees and gave them between $30K and millions and changed their lives because the owner was super rich already and he wanted them to stick around and feel like they actually contribute to something.

There are a few other examples out there I’m sure but the rest of Full of S**t !

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May 18, 2018 21:58:24   #
Sicilianthing
 


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Some valid points but most of it is bullcrap f**e news and it doesn’t hit the 99%

You of all people should know this.

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May 19, 2018 01:20:05   #
PeterS
 


Current presidents generally get the credit or blame for the economy. 2017 job creation was under 2016 and the decrease in unemployment came from a reduction in the elasticity of the labor force nothing more plus GDP was at the same level of 2014 and 15 and I don't remember conservatives exclaiming how wonderful the economy was. We all know that if Obama presided over the same economy conservatives would be describing it as the worst economy in the history of all mankind and howling over the increase in debt that he was responsible for.

As for the next recession the past three recessions have been caused by over capitalization which resulted in a recession that was harder to climb out of than the previous one. You can only pump so much money into the economy before it will falter and the one certainty is that falter it will...

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May 19, 2018 05:50:47   #
Big Kahuna
 
buffalo wrote:
Did you even bother to read the article? If you did your comprehension sk**ls are deficient. The vast majority of the people are WORKING. Many at LOW WAGE jobs that cannot pay housing, food, child care so they CAN work, health care wich their employers does NOT provide, and t***sportation to GET to work. The others are working and earn too much to qualify for federal poverty programs but are still unable to cover their monthly expenses.

California, especially with its extremely regressive taxes (gasoline, sales, property, etc) that hit the poor and middle class hardest. Then couple that with the ridiculously high cost of housing and yes many are struggling.

But all you see is those taking advantage of the system. How do you know they are? Maybe their spouse works, who knows? Have you ever asked one of them? If they are sponging off the "system", whose fault is that?

Novick also stated, "More low-wage jobs may decrease the unemployment rate, but employment doesn’t mean families can pay their bills. Stephanie Hoopes, a founding author of the study, explained this frustration, telling NJ.com that “the rate of inflation in the past 10 years has been about 9 percent, but the cost of living for ALICE families has risen by nearly twice that.” As a result, she explained, “There’s a sense of frustration or even anger because people are being told that they’re doing better but they aren’t.”

Of course the top 1% are still more absurdly wealthy than the bottom 80% but hey they needed a huge take cut to ensure that the gap keep getting wider.

Thus, we have trumpy's f**e economy.
Did you even bother to read the article? If you di... (show quote)


Interesting how most Americans had to work 3 jobs during the ovommit years just to make ends meet and the corrupt l*****t media lied about how great ovommits economic agenda was. They never told the American people that Ovomit never could get gdp over 3% in his 8 horrendous years, the only president to never be able to get over 3%, and had to use quantitative easing (printing more and more money) to keep the economy afloat otherwise ovommits legacy, not that he ever had one other than being black, would be a massive recession. Ovommit never knew much about how to run a shoeshine business let alone our government. He should have stayed on the golf course for 8 years and the economy would have done better without his interference!!

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