Democrat Leader Says In God We Trust Is Offensive!
May 8, 2018 12:13:00 #
DEMOCRAT LEADER SAYS ‘IN GOD WE TRUST… IS OFFENSIVE’!
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…
May 8, 2018 12:42:34 #
banner, While I don't like the government getting mixed up with religion, I have no problem with " In God We Trust". This motto has been around since Moby Dick was a minnow. It has great historical significance. [quote=bahmer]DEMOCRAT LEADER SAYS ‘IN GOD WE TRUST… IS OFFENSIVE’!
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
May 8, 2018 12:43:12 #
R.D.Dukes
Loc: Southern Arizona & central Washington
Wouldn't it be so much better for all to remove these non Christine folks to a nonchristen country instead of offending the millions of christens who made this country great.
May 8, 2018 12:48:37 #
R.D.Dukes wrote:
Wouldn't it be so much better for all to remove these non Christine folks to a nonchristen country instead of offending the millions of christens who made this country great.
Sounds like a great Idea maybe we should float that along with the atheist idea and see who wins.
May 8, 2018 13:43:25 #
[quote=bahmer]DEMOCRAT LEADER SAYS ‘IN GOD WE TRUST… IS OFFENSIVE’!
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
The atheist and L**T a tiny fraction of the population make DEMANDS!!!!!!! the conservatives in our congress and Senate are cowards not upholding the will of the masses and protecting the very foundation (God) what America was founded on. If a few snowflakes are "offended" so what, life is not a cake ride, and we all will face difficulties, trials and things that offend us, toughen up cry babies.
If we eliminated everything that offended us /me, instead of Dish TV having 800 channels after eliminating the ones I find offensive, we would probably be down to a dozen or so. Nothing with gays, t*********rs, sex, swearing, evil, what's left to watch?
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
The atheist and L**T a tiny fraction of the population make DEMANDS!!!!!!! the conservatives in our congress and Senate are cowards not upholding the will of the masses and protecting the very foundation (God) what America was founded on. If a few snowflakes are "offended" so what, life is not a cake ride, and we all will face difficulties, trials and things that offend us, toughen up cry babies.
If we eliminated everything that offended us /me, instead of Dish TV having 800 channels after eliminating the ones I find offensive, we would probably be down to a dozen or so. Nothing with gays, t*********rs, sex, swearing, evil, what's left to watch?
May 8, 2018 13:47:41 #
[quote=bahmer]DEMOCRAT LEADER SAYS ‘IN GOD WE TRUST… IS OFFENSIVE’!
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
The atheist and L**T a tiny fraction of the population make DEMANDS!!!!!!! the conservatives in our congress and Senate are cowards not upholding the will of the masses and protecting the very foundation (God) what America was founded on. If a few snowflakes are "offended" so what, life is not a cake ride, and we all will face difficulties, trials and things that offend us, toughen up cry babies.
If we eliminated everything that offended us /me, instead of Dish TV having 800 channels after eliminating the ones I find offensive, we would probably be down to a dozen or so. Nothing with gays, t*********rs, sex, swearing, evil, what's left to watch?
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
The atheist and L**T a tiny fraction of the population make DEMANDS!!!!!!! the conservatives in our congress and Senate are cowards not upholding the will of the masses and protecting the very foundation (God) what America was founded on. If a few snowflakes are "offended" so what, life is not a cake ride, and we all will face difficulties, trials and things that offend us, toughen up cry babies.
If we eliminated everything that offended us /me, instead of Dish TV having 800 channels after eliminating the ones I find offensive, we would probably be down to a dozen or so. Nothing with gays, t*********rs, sex, swearing, evil, what's left to watch?
May 8, 2018 13:52:56 #
crazylibertarian
Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
[quote=bahmer]DEMOCRAT LEADER SAYS ‘IN GOD WE TRUST… IS OFFENSIVE’!
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
About 25 years ago, a Rhode Island state legislator named J Issa, proposed requiring that the legislature read The Preamble to The Rhode Island Constitution at the start of every session. Sure enough, the local ACLU representative, a geek named Steven Brown weighed in on the TV news, oh totally unconstitutional because that Preamble mentions God, as does every other state constitutional preamble.
I asked, aloud, what will be ACLU's next move, to have reading The Declaration of Independence declared unconstitutional? Don''t laugh. That may be upon us.
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
About 25 years ago, a Rhode Island state legislator named J Issa, proposed requiring that the legislature read The Preamble to The Rhode Island Constitution at the start of every session. Sure enough, the local ACLU representative, a geek named Steven Brown weighed in on the TV news, oh totally unconstitutional because that Preamble mentions God, as does every other state constitutional preamble.
I asked, aloud, what will be ACLU's next move, to have reading The Declaration of Independence declared unconstitutional? Don''t laugh. That may be upon us.
May 8, 2018 14:35:53 #
crazylibertarian wrote:
About 25 years ago, a Rhode Island state legislato... (show quote)
If they thought that they could they would.
May 8, 2018 16:01:13 #
Bad Bob
Loc: Virginia
[quote=bahmer]DEMOCRAT LEADER SAYS ‘IN GOD WE TRUST… IS OFFENSIVE’!
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
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Oh yes, let's put your stupid slogan (“In God We Trust.”) on all our public school buildings because we can't trust our governments to adequately fund our public education.
Gary DeMar GARY DEMAR MAY 8, 2018 450 VIEWS
Two Democrat state senators from Minnesota – Scott Dibble and John Marty – are opposed to a bill asking schools to display a poster with the words “In God We Trust.”
Dibble and Marty are afraid that some students might be offended. In fact, Marty said on the State Senate floor, “The money in my wallet has to say, ‘In God We Trust.’ I think that’s offensive.’”
Like clockwork, an atheist group “claim[s] the posters would violate the separation of church and state…. ‘It’s not the state’s business, and it’s not the school’s business, to be taking sides in this very personal decision,’ August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists said.”
There’s no such constitutional prohibition. In fact, the Minnesota Constitution mentions God:
We, the people of the state of Minnesota, grateful to God for our civil and religious liberty, and desiring to perpetuate its blessings and secure the same to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
The First Amendment is addressed to Congress to protect the states on the topic of religion.
Why not make posters of the Preamble to the Minnesota constitution and place them in all the classrooms? That would shut them up or force them to change the Constitution and the other 49 state Constitutions.
The following email was sent to me in response to an article I wrote about Michael Newdow, the lawyer who has been trying to use the courts to remove “In God We Trust” from our nation’s currency and “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance.
It’s typical of the way atheists think.
Dear Mr. DeMar,
You wrote: Following Newdow’s logic, e******y means that America should be officially atheistic. Of course, Newdow would claim that taking “In God We Trust” off U.S. currency is not atheism; it’s neutrality. If God is not acknowledged by our government, then the government is atheistic. Atheism is defined as “no God” (a=no + theos=God).
By that logic, it seems to me that the roads, paper, desks, and all the other objects used by government (except, of course, things such as our money) are atheistic as well. After all, none of those things have “In God We Trust” on them.
So, too, I imagine are the shoes you wear, the toothpaste you use, and the children you bore (when they first arrived, at least).
So, I just wanted to say that we Atheists (who embrace all of our fellow humans) are glad to have you among us.
Here was my response to the letter writer that applies equally well to the two state senators from Minnesota and August Berkshire of Minnesota Atheists and atheists in general.
Newdow has taken an action to remove “In God We Trust,” not because he believes that it’s not necessary, but that it’s a fiction, and governments should not be involved in promoting fiction. By this action, he claims to be “neutral.” He is not being neutral…[/quote]
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Oh yes, let's put your stupid slogan (“In God We Trust.”) on all our public school buildings because we can't trust our governments to adequately fund our public education.
May 9, 2018 07:19:52 #
saltwind 78 wrote:
banner, While I don't like the government getting mixed up with religion, I have no problem with " In God We Trust". This motto has been around since Moby Dick was a minnow. It has great historical significance.
The demonrat senators should be forced to wear shirts that have "In God we trust but never trust a demonrat like us", stenciled on them. Then make it mandatory for them to carry a Bible, actually read the Constitution and then be tested on the actual facts of the constitution. Let them see there is nowhere in the Constitution that directs the separation of church and state!! In fact it eludes to the fact that the government is to get off the backs of those who want to practice their religion.
May 9, 2018 07:21:44 #
R.D.Dukes wrote:
Wouldn't it be so much better for all to remove these non Christine folks to a nonchristen country instead of offending the millions of christens who made this country great.
Venezuela or Cuba would be 2 options!!
May 9, 2018 08:39:33 #
bahmer wrote:
Sounds like a great Idea maybe we should float that along with the atheist idea and see who wins.
One of our Senators, Tim Kaine, is from Minnesota. Now, I have some idea why he is such a damn screwball. I hope the v**ers of VA will send his ass packing back to Richmond, VA. Please, people, if you have people like this in your state don’t send them to Virginia. California would be more to their liking. Home of the Whackos.
May 9, 2018 09:28:07 #
May 9, 2018 09:45:20 #
R.D.Dukes wrote:
Wouldn't it be so much better for all to remove these non Christine folks to a nonchristen country instead of offending the millions of christens who made this country great.
EXCELLENT IDEA !!!!!!
May 9, 2018 10:47:34 #
currahee wrote:
Why do the people in Minnesota trust atheist to be their senators?
The people you speak of reside predominantly in the metro areas, the rest of us have no time for the liberal BS.
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