no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Plymouth was better known but the "progressives" will immediately claim that the collective state was not the problem. But then they also claim that the Soviet Union was a successful prosperous country, not a place where millions of people starved to death.

son of witless

The American Press of today is just chock full of Walter Durantys. He won the Pulitzer Prize in 1932 for telling America how Stalin was not murdering millions by starvation. Duranty is the Patron Saint of Liberal reporters. They are all his ideological descendants. There needs to be bust of this great man in all liberal news outlets. There really really does.

acknowledgeurma

After you read that story, you might want to read this:
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/holidays/2014/11/thanksgiving_socialism_the_strange_and_persistent_right_wing_myth_that_thanksgiving.html

Wherein one finds, "the settlers at Plymouth were rebelling against the rules set by a corporation, not against the strictures of some Stalinist collective farm or a hippie commune."

son of witless

I reject this idea on one point. It does not matter whether the original economic model was formed by a corporation back in England or by Stalin back in Moscow. No it really does not. The practical result was the same. The Plymouth Colony functioned in reality like a Soviet Collective Farm or a California hippie commune.

Obviously the original Plymouth model failed, while the second model succeeded. If the original model was a capitalist form based on Landlord manors and Tenant farmers in England, then English Manors in the 17th century must have been failing constantly. If that had been the case, England would not have been prosperous enough to send colonists to the New World.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Excellent points. Thank you!!

son of witless

acknowledgeurma is the only lefty who actually knows how to argue facts on OPP. The rest are downright pitiful.

teaman

Because Welfare is NOT Christian, it's stealing. When God tells us to give to the poor, it's "WE/US" that individually give not our Government that is funded by hardworking taxpayers!!!.......and when socialism enters the picture, it opens the door nothing but a free ride for millions, plus tuns of fraud and abuse!!!

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Witless ya didn't do very good with ya "form".

son of witless

Your disapproval sorrows me greatly.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Witless I can't help it that people a laughing at your "form".

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

Christians do not want the government deciding how much of the citizens money they will take to provide what services the government thinks are necessary and how it is to be regulated. Most Christians are happy to help truly needy people. While it may not be true in large impersonal cities, out here in the country we know who needs help and what they need. We know if they need help with cooking or cleaning, or someone to take the kids to school. We know who needs some things from our garden, help with the new baby or the new puppy. We give food to those who truly need it, welcome strangers into our home for a few days or mail books to those who might enjoy something new to read. What we will not do is provide food to someone who is too lazy to cook but able to purchase and do their own cooking. We won't hand someone $20.00 to go buy cigarettes, or candy and cookies. You want to eat that kind of trash buy it yourself, want to destroy your body don't demand that we pay for it. The Bible does not tell us to help people destroy their lives and those of their children, but instead, tells us to help them stop destroying themselves, that's called tough love, although not up to the Sodam and Gomorah level.

son of witless

I am always looking for ways to help folk such as yourself. It is true that I have failed convince you of the error of most of your thoughts, or to elevate your logic to acceptable standards , still the thought that I have brought to you the joy of laughter shows me that my efforts with you have born some useful fruit. Although instead of being amused by my posting " acknowledgeurma is the only lefty who actually knows how to argue facts on OPP. The rest are downright pitiful " , I had greatly feared that you would be offended. That you do not have a ginormous chip on your shoulder like so many of your liberal brothers and sisters do, is a credit to your character.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

"Offended" by you running like a scalded dog?