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Aug 9, 2018 23:21:21   #
son of witless
 
Bad Bob wrote:
"Offended" by you running like a scalded dog?


" scalded dog? " Geeze you are even older than me, using expressions like that.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scalded%20dog

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Aug 14, 2018 00:53:22   #
acknowledgeurma
 
mwdegutis wrote:
For even when we were with you, we used to give you this order: if anyone is not willing to work, then he is not to eat, either. 2 Thessalonians 3:10

Googling, "Who said you don't work you don't eat"
I got:
"He who does not work, neither shall he eat. He who does not work, neither shall he eat is a New Testament aphorism originally by Paul the Apostle, later cited by John Smith in Jamestown, Virginia, and by Lenin during the Russian Revolution."

I wonder, we who live off rents, dividends and interest, should we eat?

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Aug 14, 2018 01:28:08   #
acknowledgeurma
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Christians do not want the government deciding how much of the citizens money they will take to provide what services the government thinks are necessary and how it is to be regulated. Most Christians are happy to help truly needy people. While it may not be true in large impersonal cities, out here in the country we know who needs help and what they need. We know if they need help with cooking or cleaning, or someone to take the kids to school. We know who needs some things from our garden, help with the new baby or the new puppy. We give food to those who truly need it, welcome strangers into our home for a few days or mail books to those who might enjoy something new to read. What we will not do is provide food to someone who is too lazy to cook but able to purchase and do their own cooking. We won't hand someone $20.00 to go buy cigarettes, or candy and cookies. You want to eat that kind of trash buy it yourself, want to destroy your body don't demand that we pay for it. The Bible does not tell us to help people destroy their lives and those of their children, but instead, tells us to help them stop destroying themselves, that's called tough love, although not up to the Sodam and Gomorah level.
Christians do not want the government deciding how... (show quote)

The following has some interesting information about differences in rural and urban areas:
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2017-03-20/6-charts-that-illustrate-the-divide-between-rural-and-urban-america

As I remember, a lot of the reason for the Great Society programs, was to address rural poverty, which has been (is) higher than urban areas.

You talk as if "the government" isn't ours. I want my government to help people, along the lines of Matthew 6:4 "That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly." I don't want to know the particulars. Also, I have faith that people, if they have adequate funds can decide what they need.

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Aug 14, 2018 06:17:13   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
...I wonder, we who live off rents, dividends and interest, should we eat?

The Thessalonians were taught to be industrious as well as Paul giving them a good example. He wanted no one to forget exactly what the apostles had said. It was a firm rule of Christian conduct. The individuals in view were not those who could not work but those who would not work. They were not to be supported by other Christians out of a sense of charity. The loving thing to do for those drones was to let them go hungry so that they would be forced to do right and go to work. No Christian who is able but unwilling to work should be maintained by others who labor on his behalf.

To answer your question, the key word is industrious. I would consider people who live off rents, dividends and interest as being industrious...as long as they're fair, not greedy, and not taking advantage of people.

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